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grazyc2
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Men that is nuts, we started a second fleet for a new starbase just to get new fleet marks :eek:
Yes you read it right a second fleet to start a second fed base and we are almost at lvl 2 too.
This is crazy hahaha.... Wish devs worked faster on things really needed in game :P
Yes you read it right a second fleet to start a second fed base and we are almost at lvl 2 too.
This is crazy hahaha.... Wish devs worked faster on things really needed in game :P
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It does come off as bragging... But I am sure it's merely the "wow... we are large" effect </glares at OP>
But yes... As a leader of a smaller fleet, I actually prefer they pull the brakes a little.
I'm leading an average fleet. We have a few dozen active members, and the holdings are progressing (only a few more days until T3 dilithium upgrades can begin). We are hardly a large fleet though, and the holdings will probably get a major break once we begin on T3 mine. That project is gonna be a hard one to finish, probably taking multiple weeks.
So OP, your fleet would also be welcome to join our fleet and contribute to our Dilithium Mine. You get your credits, we get our T3 holding. Win-win situation. Or join one of the small fleets that could use your help harder than I can.
But personally, the elitism of this thread isn't something that makes me very happy. Sorry to burst your bubble, but the last thing that small and average fleets at the moment is more things in the fleet to level up. We have 4 holdings currently, and combined they demand so much resources.
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I'm an officer in a large fleet with mostly finished holdings, and I agree with the above.
If we need fleet credits, we have plenty of small/medium fleets to turn to who love donations, which is a win win.
But this elitism is making us large fleets look bad.
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I know my friends just started a Fleet (with a name that flatters me in order to get me to join) at the ground level in order to, "Launder Fleet marks and resources into credits to spend elsewhere." (Joining some other fleet was apparently out of the question.)
How goes the Fleet running nowadays?
I mean, we already have a project that only takes Dil... Why not fleet marks?
Hopefully, with the changing of the guard, DeAngelo will implement solutions to these flaws of the Starbase system.
Its got the added benefit of helping somebody else out while also helping me out, i get the credit i want/need and another fleet gets a boost in holding progress that they want/need
As somebody who has spent the better part of the last three days doing nothing but grinding FM's for our mine upgrade i was really happy when somebody from RA offered to do this for us.
As said by other, just donate to another fleet.
Maybe Cryptic could create a sort of Bank where players could donate their fleet marks and other players needing them could extract them. With a limit of amount to extract per day per player so no exploit will take place. (Players who donate get credit for it)
Install a diplomatic terminal on every fleet holding that allows the donation of resources to current running projects by people invited to the holding in exchange for fleet credits.
That way people wouldn't have to leave their home fleet but can help out other fleets without much hassle.
Like, my 4 person KDF fleet stuck on level 1 SB and not much of anything else?
Nope, not bothered, just because they could be helping small fleets out, why would we be upset that they wish to leave us to rot while they show off what they have...
Not like Bill Gates, Richard Branson, most of Hollywood - going out of there way to show us what we don't have, not upsetting at all :P
Too many people wanting too many credits, you know?
And if any small fleets aren't happy about that, well, I'm sorry you're offended.
I'm not sure that Fleets replicating themselves indefinitely is really what the Devs would call "Working As Intended". Perhaps they don't care, since this would presumably be an effective resource sink and might generate Zen sales they wouldn't get otherwise.
At the very least, it highlights a very interesting dynamic taking shape.
Fleets apparently created for no other reason than to generate fleet credits.
Are they temporary fleets? Theoretically not. There's no mechanism for disbanding (deleting) a fleet that I recall.
And what happens when the fleet leader of one of these satellite fleets forgets to log in and a junior member ends up controlling it? These satellite fleets could well end up taking on lives of their own. Should they?
Let's not have arguments about how this is good or bad. I think it would be interesting to talk about where this kind of thing will lead and let people make up their own minds.
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Creating a facility where people can donate or work on behalf of other fleets while remaining in their own is a great idea, as is creating a project for larger fleets that uses only fleet marks to generate provisions or something else so that there arent fleets creating sub fleets just to have somewhere to put the marks.
If the embassy had a facility where fleets could be linked (by mutual agreement much like a friend request) and that allowed for people from linked fleets to donate to a marks pool that the other fleet leader(s) could use.
Congrates on your 2nd fleet. it is work we have 4 and it easier cause we only focus on the small one now. good luck
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I know the feeling and sorry I don't like to brag I was a small fleet but we are a joined ops of 5 fleets joined together and people switch between the fleets to get the starbases and the rest of it operational it's a large job to keep all 1500 members satisfied it is sometimes a whole day of work and even if you have jobs split to coordinate it it is still a lot off work, I lead a small base tier 2 but lately it was going fast it is almost tier 5 and a new starbase is being build, as I really love this I also hate it because it's much more work.
But to have a successful fleet you really have to share with other small fleets thats the best advice I can give you !!!
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This kind of thing is off-topic. Let's keep the thread on-topic. If anyone wants to advertise their fleet, use the appropriate fleet forum.
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I wouldn't put it as dynamic but a serious problem. If large fleets are churning out faux fleets, it's taking away money since they are taking away server memory space. And what of those completed Tier 5 fleets being sold off for real money? That's going to create problems too when people stupid enough to buy these fleets realize they can't do anything with it, because they haven't earned fleet credits to buy stuff.
And what's to say 2-3 years down the road when there is a ton of these abandoned fleets?
Then there is the problem of earnest, hard-working small fleets, who see all these faux fleets pass them by, all I can say is that is extremely demoralizing. They spend their free time working hard grinding away. Or small Klingon fleets who can't even progress, because the Queues are deader than dead.
I can't put it to words other than "it bleeping sucks".
I can't fathom why Cryptic just sits there doing nothing. Just one reason less reason to continue playing STO.
Well, part of it is that many of the 'mega-fleets' as it were way back when the fleet system was really implemented as it is now, were already pretty large to start with.
Right out of the starting gate, a lot of people had a lot of resources. I know my fleet was booming pretty much more or less. Only real trouble was the one thing nobody had: fleet marks.
Once Nukara was gotten down to a T (when it was first released it would give FMs during the FM event), that stopped being a problem for awhile. Dil wasn't needed for much at the time as well, so it wasn't as big of an issue to donate it.
Short version is that up until people finished tier 3, a lot of fleets hit the monster that was needing uncommon DOFFs for projects, or they had gotten stuck on the equally big monster that was the Bartender upgrade.
Once people started working towards tier 4, or when we started to deal with the Embassy, that is when things started to grow between the more wealthy fleets, and those without the resources to keep up.
This. So very much this. I'm in a small fleet. Tiny even. Our roster says 40 people but I know at least 15 of those are alts primarily from the 4 guys running the fleet. So naturally it takes forever to get anything rolling. Marks, dil, items all take time to come up with. The one thing that we aren't short on is FC. I personally financed the T2 Mine upgrade using fc to buy the necessary doffs and provisions. Cost and arm and leg and it didn't even dent my fc wallet.
And here you have big fleet members crying about not being able to get fc. Join a small fleet. There are scores of them just dying to take in member but can't because they just can't offer all the fancy toys of the big fleets and because of the out=out policy that is usually in place. So big fleets make faux fleets just as a means of generating credits. It's disheartening as hell.
Simple fix. Let big fleets donate to a specific smaller fleet they are sponsoring. Tax that donation at a flat 10% rate. Call it a transportation fee or something. Big fleet gets credits, small fleet gets the resources it needs. Everyone is happy.
EXCELLENT idea! Fleet Sponsorship! Ya listening, Devs? This would be a great idea and an excellent solution to a lot of problems all around! Let's make this happen!