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bufflezbufflez Member Posts: 53 Arc User
edited February 2014 in Romulan Discussion
So yeah, for a romulan tac... which has more punch? scimitar or ar'kif tac carrier? I fly a vesta on my fed sci so I was thinking of some change. Seems to me the ar'kif is pretty much the same.
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  • talonxvtalonxv Member Posts: 4,257 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    bufflez wrote: »
    So yeah, for a romulan tac... which has more punch? scimitar or ar'kif tac carrier? I fly a vesta on my fed sci so I was thinking of some change. Seems to me the ar'kif is pretty much the same.

    Raw firepower goes to the Scimitar. The Ar'kif is actually like the Armitage, not the vesta. It's an armitage with a singularity and a battle cloak.

    Personally I went with the Ar'kif. Love the way it looks and the fact it's way more mobile and turns on a dime. And you don't even need to use the pets.
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  • kjwashingtonkjwashington Member Posts: 2,529 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    bufflez wrote: »
    So yeah, for a romulan tac... which has more punch? scimitar or ar'kif tac carrier? I fly a vesta on my fed sci so I was thinking of some change. Seems to me the ar'kif is pretty much the same.

    The Ar'kif is a completely different type of ship with a completely different type of play style (in comparison to the Vesta) comparing and stating the two are the same is like doing that for a banana and a lemon. That said, I would have to say the Scimitar variants are probably a better choice as you often hear of 50k+ dps builds coming from those.

    Edit: Also, what was the point of necroing that old thread if you were just going to start a new one?
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  • deathsremnantdeathsremnant Member Posts: 265
    edited February 2014
    The Ar'kif is a completely different type of ship with a completely different type of play style (in comparison to the Vesta) comparing and stating the two are the same is like doing that for a banana and a lemon. That said, I would have to say the Scimitar variants are probably a better choice as you often hear of 50k+ dps builds coming from those.

    Edit: Also, what was the point of necroing that old thread if you were just going to start a new one?

    Theyre actually not "completely different" in many aspects.

    Very similar Boff and Console layouts, both have 1 hanger bay

    Main differences: Scimitar has 5 forward weapons, ark has 4/ Scim has around 5500 higher hull/ Ark has about 9 higher turn rate.

    The Ark is cheaper (via pure zen purchases of fleet modules) would be valued at 2000, while the scimitar is 2500, also fleet modules can be purchased via EC as well unlike zen.
  • kjwashingtonkjwashington Member Posts: 2,529 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Theyre actually not "completely different" in many aspects.

    Very similar Boff and Console layouts, both have 1 hanger bay

    Main differences: Scimitar has 5 forward weapons, ark has 4/ Scim has around 5500 higher hull/ Ark has about 9 higher turn rate.

    The Ark is cheaper (via pure zen purchases of fleet modules) would be valued at 2000, while the scimitar is 2500, also fleet modules can be purchased via EC as well unlike zen.

    The two ships I was talking about being completely different were the Vesta and Ar'kif. I know that the Scimitar and the Ar'kif are similar...ish.
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  • neoakiraiineoakiraii Member Posts: 7,468 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Flip a coin, and if you get angry at the result, then you already know
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  • atalossataloss Member Posts: 563 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Scimitar = blows things up faster than you can TRIBBLE. Destroys 4 escorts for breakfast, A fleet for Lunch, an Entire planetary defense force for dinner and another Scimitar for dessert (only when it wants a real challenge). Has sent more crew members to their grave than every terminal disease ever discovered x 10 + 1,000.


    Ar'Kif = Can't make destruction look as cool as the Scimitar.

    I say the choice is pretty obvious to me,..but it's your money :D
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  • shadowwraith77shadowwraith77 Member Posts: 6,395 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Ar'kif if you prefer a nimble and destructive escort carrier, Scimitar if you prefer a devastating space whale of a ship with a hangar to boot.
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  • erei1erei1 Member Posts: 4,081 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Ar'kif if you prefer a nimble and destructive escort carrier, Scimitar if you prefer a devastating space whale of a ship with a hangar to boot.
    Pretty much this. Nothing can beat the firepower of a properly geared/builded scimitar. But the Ar'kif is quite good, and a lot more nimble. Also, you don't block half the sector when you park around new romulus.
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  • omegaphallicomegaphallic Member Posts: 101 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    I think the Ar'kif wins on the question of looks, I don't like the looks of the Scimatar.
  • tekehdtekehd Member Posts: 2,032 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Yes, the Ar'Kif does look more aesthetically Romulan. Not sure if I'd say better. I like the hard lines and general menacing look of the scim. It kind of has that "I don't look pretty and I don't give a ****!" deal to it.
  • groomofweirdgroomofweird Member Posts: 1,045 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Personally I think as you fly vesta the difference will be most interesting for you. Though I'd live that set for my sci toon.
    I have both ships on my tac rom "though I've only just started building my ar'kif). I have gicen it a whil a few times though.
    Seems to me that if you like your combat more manouverable, go ar'kif, seems much more suited for cannon strafing runs than the bulky scimitar. I haven't really maxed the potential on the scimitar yet but I think it can handle cannon builds, but sort of limits it to alphs strike decloaking builds.
    With the ar'kif you have less narly abilities (if theyr your thing) than the scimi set but its an escort and the annihilation mode, hangar and the quad cannons I got from the other tac escort can make it a nasty ship (imo)
    If you want fast(er) more escorty type combat go ar'kif, if you want a devastating dps ship (that you will really have to build specifically and grind allot for) go scimi, personally I love both ships, I only bought the ar'kif as a change of pace literally from the scimitar.
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  • id0liciousid0licious Member Posts: 74 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    tekehd wrote: »
    Yes, the Ar'Kif does look more aesthetically Romulan.

    That's probably because the Scimitar is Reman...:D
  • alopenalopen Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    I think the Ar'kif wins on the question of looks, I don't like the looks of the Scimatar.

    The looks of the scimi are nice but its so big the looks suffer when its sits in light and blocks half of known space. If it was shrunk down it would be awesome.

    As to the OP, I have both and prefer the Arkif simply because the Scimitar has a unique play style all its own that is either harder to master (decloaking alpha which turns into a space whale after 15-20 seconds) OR beam boat extraordinaire. I rolled a fed eng a while ago to play beam boat and get that out of my system. I just can't bring myself to use beams on a scimi. FYI decloaking alpha is great in PvE but much harder in PvP since the player base is really getting better at pinning down battlecloakers in general. Arkif is still a nice escort when you cant cloak at will due to three thousand GW's being flung all over the place.
  • shadowwraith77shadowwraith77 Member Posts: 6,395 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Me personally I got them both simply because I prefer all of my character's to have a variety of ships, one hunk of destructive space whale, and a nimble but destructive escort type craft for each and every character.

    And to be honest I enjoy both of them. :D
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  • dreadcalldreadcall Member Posts: 45 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    reyan01 wrote: »
    The Scimitar has changed the game, reduced the likes of ISE to a joke and rendered most other ships obsolete. Draw your own conclusion.

    Are you really saying ISE wasn't a joke before the scimitar:?:confused:
  • erei1erei1 Member Posts: 4,081 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    dreadcall wrote: »
    Are you really saying ISE wasn't a joke before the scimitar:?:confused:
    This. STO didn't wait for the scimitar to have a huge powercreep.
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  • derbeelzebotderbeelzebot Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    erei1 wrote: »
    This. STO didn't wait for the scimitar to have a huge powercreep.

    Yes, but there is no similarity to creep in what the Scimitar did to the maximum available power level.
  • reynoldsxdreynoldsxd Member Posts: 977 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    The scimis ludicrous bang per buck ratio overshadows all other romulan ships.
    Do yourself a favor: buy the scimi that lets you keep your shields while battlecloacking.
    Endless amounts of fun, that perk. That alone already makes the scimi better. Now add in 5 forward guns and the fact that the ark has nothing else but agility (and you can have that cheaper with tvaro or mogai) speaking for it, and the answer is clear.

    Go buy a scimi. Its no contest. It is MADE to fully exploit the cloak related romulan traits. Its the only romulan ship that can repeatedly make use of the decloak related traits and perks. Its the only romulan ship that can make full use of this stuff without putting itself at risk.
    And you do get turn rate bonus while cloaked and its effect lingers if you have the traits for it.


    Well, thats if you look at it with the bang per buck googles. . .
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