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pappaborgpappaborg Member Posts: 17 Arc User
I would like to see the old stf's return. The stf's that are up now are way to quick and easy for a lot of players that have been around for a long time.

The old ones would not replace the new ones but would be able to be run like they used to by picking up the mission and going to the planet with your team.

I am wondering if anyone else is feeling the same.
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  • cookiecrookcookiecrook Member Posts: 4,541 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    I have to agree and with the old rewards as well. I would like an alternative to the ridiculous grinds I just couldn't care less about to get some half decent gear.
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  • sfc#5932 sfc Member Posts: 992 Bug Hunter
    edited February 2014
    pappaborg wrote: »
    I would like to see the old stf's return. The stf's that are up now are way to quick and easy for a lot of players that have been around for a long time.

    The old ones would not replace the new ones but would be able to be run like they used to by picking up the mission and going to the planet with your team.

    I am wondering if anyone else is feeling the same.
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  • pappaborgpappaborg Member Posts: 17 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    oh yeah that would be the perfect addition to the game
  • revandarklighterrevandarklighter Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Yeah those were much more fun. Sto lacks that kind of content in general...
  • voporakvoporak Member Posts: 5,621 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    I never got to play them. I vote to bring them back!
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  • nanomorphnanomorph Member Posts: 203 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Go play Terradome (if it still exists in-game) to get an idea of why this is a supremely Bad Idea.
  • revandarklighterrevandarklighter Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    nanomorph wrote: »
    Go play Terradome (if it still exists in-game) to get an idea of why this is a supremely Bad Idea.

    As far as I know they removed it quiet recently...
  • pappaborgpappaborg Member Posts: 17 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    they took terradome out out. Been through it several times. actually ran it just for something to do. were not talking about taking the new ones out. they can stay for the noobs, but players who actually have skill and have out grown these 10 minut cake runs would like to have something a bit more challenging to play.
  • azurianstarazurianstar Member Posts: 6,985 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    nanomorph wrote: »
    Go play Terradome (if it still exists in-game) to get an idea of why this is a supremely Bad Idea.

    Bad Idea? How so? Not like anyone is asking to replace the current STFs, just people wanting the old ones back and have a classic raid-esque experience with a team of their friends.

    So people have an option. Go with the queues, or group up and go spend a few hours in the old ones. And if they do bring them back, perhaps some nice rare chance at some unique drops would pique interest in people doing them once in a while.
  • o0kami87o0kami87 Member Posts: 590 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    this has been asked for repeatedly over and over again (many times by me I'm proud to admit), but not for just a weekend, bring them back for good!
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  • revandarklighterrevandarklighter Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Bad Idea? How so? Not like anyone is asking to replace the current STFs, just people wanting the old ones back and have a classic raid-esque experience with a team of their friends.

    So people have an option. Go with the queues, or group up and go spend a few hours in the old ones. And if they do bring them back, perhaps some nice rare chance at some unique drops would pique interest in people doing them once in a while.

    Also, terradome was fun.
  • o0kami87o0kami87 Member Posts: 590 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Also, terradome was fun.

    yeah it was! WHOOOOOO
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  • pappaborgpappaborg Member Posts: 17 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Part of the fun of the game for me was putting ships and teams together for missions. Leading a group of guys through who have never been before, looking at their builds and equipment tweaking everything to perfection then going in.

    I like having someone lead the team and give instruction that have to be followed to the letter. If a mission fails then u know u need to do better because every mission in this game is easily beatable with the the proper team, equipment and training.
  • revandarklighterrevandarklighter Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    pappaborg wrote: »
    Part of the fun of the game for me was putting ships and teams together for missions. Leading a group of guys through who have never been before, looking at their builds and equipment tweaking everything to perfection then going in.

    I like having someone lead the team and give instruction that have to be followed to the letter. If a mission fails then u know u need to do better because every mission in this game is easily beatable with the the proper team, equipment and training.

    Not only that. I liked it to take an evening for "playing sto" making appointments and beeing busy with beating this one b*** of a mission even if it took 6 hours.

    Ok that was not the case with the stfs in the end, but when they were new, on the first runs, it was long and fun solving them.


    The current ones are just fast food.
  • azurianstarazurianstar Member Posts: 6,985 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Also, terradome was fun.

    Indeed. Still crack up at the coin flipping part.

    People in the group were so fixated on looking for the coin flip, that you do the coin flip emote, people would think you was the NPC. :D
  • revandarklighterrevandarklighter Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Indeed. Still crack up at the coin flipping part.

    People in the group were so fixated on looking for the coin flip, that you do the coin flip emote, people would think you was the NPC. :D

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  • ashkrik23ashkrik23 Member Posts: 10,809 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    nanomorph wrote: »
    Go play Terradome (if it still exists in-game) to get an idea of why this is a supremely Bad Idea.

    You must be joking......... That was the best mission in the game...
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  • brigadooombrigadooom Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    I would love to see the longer old-style STFs return (perhaps with increased difficulty), along with random loot chance at MKXII STF gear. It would make for both a nice throwback for older players, and a sort-of-alternative to the current rep grind.
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  • brigadooombrigadooom Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    nanomorph wrote: »
    Go play Terradome (if it still exists in-game) to get an idea of why this is a supremely Bad Idea.

    Give it good rewards, for a start, and players will invariably flock to it and figure out how to best it.
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  • daqheghdaqhegh Member Posts: 1,490 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    pappaborg wrote: »
    I would like to see the old stf's return. The stf's that are up now are way to quick and easy for a lot of players that have been around for a long time.

    The old ones would not replace the new ones but would be able to be run like they used to by picking up the mission and going to the planet with your team.

    I am wondering if anyone else is feeling the same.


    For the love of God no.

    First, you had to know what you were doing before you went in. And even then it was at least 2 hours (if not more) for each.

    Finding a team fr them was insanely difficult, even with the chat channel and zone invites. Then, if one person changes their mind and decides to leave, the rest would be screwed. Yes, the old STFs required everyone to play or the whole mission was a failure. So, if one guy takes off early, the rest would follow. I think it was called cascade quitting, or something similar.

    Worst of all, after hours of play and many MANY rezes, there was only ONE drop at the end. We all had to roll for the [Borg} proc weapon. And back then, those were some of the best in the game.

    Now, with the power creep and lockbox ships and whatnot, I tend not to do STFs at all. I have a C-Store ship fully geared, and I've been asked by teams to leave so they could play without my old ship in their way (that was paraphrased). The only way to win now is with the most OP ships in game and all universal consoles. Let's not forget the purple MKXII gear. Anything blue isn't good enough for the gear grinders, unless it's a Plasmonic Leech or something.

    SO...I can't say I agree with you. As it is, I despise the forced teaming dynamic as it is. I think true end game content should be playable by solo players and have the option of teaming (like the rest of the game).
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  • neoakiraiineoakiraii Member Posts: 7,468 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    The old STF's were only good for people like me who have friends in game.
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  • sle1989sle1989 Member Posts: 552 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Slap the ground and Space versions of the missions together and call them Expert (For example: Inected: (Expert)). Combine the rewards too and we'd have the old versions of these STFs back. Include a rare chance to get the same kinds of rewards you can get on Defera as well.
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  • azurianstarazurianstar Member Posts: 6,985 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    sle1989 wrote: »
    Include a rare chance to get the same kinds of rewards you can get on Defera as well.

    Eh, No.

    Unique rewards, period. They could even return the Borg Medical Kit or the Borg Bat'leth.
  • centersolacecentersolace Member Posts: 11,178 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    neoakiraii wrote: »
    The old STF's were only good for people like me who have friends in game.

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^
  • scififan78scififan78 Member Posts: 1,383 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    I too miss those old STF missions. I miss the story they told. Now, it's "go there and shoot Borg." Bring back the old STF missions please!
  • futurepastnowfuturepastnow Member Posts: 3,660 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    I agree, bring them back as ground and space combined in one mission, with the story element restored. The current half-STFs have lost that.

    Obviously they should be fit into the current Omega Mark reward framework, with appropriately higher rewards for the greater commitment they'll require.
  • klintobean81klintobean81 Member Posts: 69 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    I agree, bring them back as ground and space combined in one mission, with the story element restored. The current half-STFs have lost that.

    Obviously they should be fit into the current Omega Mark reward framework, with appropriately higher rewards for the greater commitment they'll require.


    Here here! I agree. Bring these bad boys back! At least as an option for those who want longer STF's instead of these easy "fast food" quick play missions.

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  • rahmkota19rahmkota19 Member Posts: 1,929 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    I wouldn't mind a return of old STF's in either the queues or in the previous mission form.

    In fact, I'd welcome the challenge myself. No sure how some of my fleet members would feel about this (there are people with a deep hatred for Terradome). Just as long as the way to make them competitive is not to simply add 20 Tac Cubes. That Hive Onslaught plan backfired, making it just plain annoying to do it. (Except if you fly with the team that has the Queen down 4 minutes after the match starts, but then it isn't a challenge).
  • questeriusquesterius Member Posts: 8,487 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Eh, No.

    Unique rewards, period. They could even return the Borg Medical Kit or the Borg Bat'leth.

    I know the former, but not the latter. A bat'leth with bonus against the borg?
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  • revandarklighterrevandarklighter Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    Eh, No.

    Unique rewards, period. They could even return the Borg Medical Kit or the Borg Bat'leth.

    Mhm... No.
    I'd lie if I'd say I don't care about rewards, but I'd take any way to get them back.
    In terms rewards I'll take anything worth the time (wich a quiet simple concept cryptic to understand, as the lack of adequate reward for mission replays or foundry missions proof), unique rewards would be obviously great but... Not essential IMO
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