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"Perfect Common Refugees"

indysharkindyshark Member Posts: 1,551 Arc User
edited February 2014 in Duty Officer System and R&D
I tend to buy refugees since I don't have enough to cover all of the missions I run. I have a list of all of the asylum missions and have started a list of common refugees that match all of the critical traits. For instance

Andoria- There are three perfect refugees (Then Asnelav, Thylos Asali, and Rysva Byls)
Bajor - No perfect refugees, but 3 that have two of the three traits (Urooyo Dran, Zozo Pwin, Ulija Aals)
Benzar - One (Vinac)
Caitan - four perfect refugees (Jhi'lyd Esreb, K'munt, Nuuv, Rylyh Kals)
Earth - Two perfect refugees (Neva Gertrudis Wahid, and Jeffery Toby Lamar)
Rigel - One, Syulag
Trill - One, Nervu
Tellar Prime - Two, Pudo and Doza
Cardasia - Nine - (Slani Kulok, Telen Ghejal, Damin Otek, Jatel Ordel, Milani Ghosen, Nulani Bell, Surjak Mang, Tulor Tulen, Yalor Kel)
Vulcan - One - T'Raalu
Sauria - Three- Rrannu, Mesde and Daamen

I have not found any for Bajor, Benzar, Betazed, Bolarus IX, Caitan. Can you identify any of the missing refugees?
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  • corgatagcorgatag Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    Vulcan - T'Pel and Kaass
    Bajor - I just use the Tellar ones (I don't think there really is a perfect match out there)
    Betazed - Just use the Vulcan ones
  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    Yeah, BEtazed only has one trait, telepathic, vulcans are the only easy to get telepathic refugees

    Bajor wants Spiritual doesn't it? don't Andorians sometimes have it?
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  • ssargonssargon Member Posts: 347 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    Iirc, Bajor wants Spiritual, Resolve and Stubborn. I just fire Pudos at them and hope for something Spiritual I can send back in an exchange.
  • indysharkindyshark Member Posts: 1,551 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    T'Pel and Kaas hit 3 out of the 4 traits for Vulcan. Are there any refugees that hit all 4?

    I also found 3 refugess that hit all of the Cardassian traits; Slani Kulok, Telen Ghejal and Damin Otek.
  • indysharkindyshark Member Posts: 1,551 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    Bajor wants spiritual, resolve and stubborn. It hates logical
  • indysharkindyshark Member Posts: 1,551 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    Andor wants Emotional, FF and honorable. It hates logical and unscrupulous
  • fraghul2000fraghul2000 Member Posts: 1,590 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    Wouldn't Trill include every Refugee that has Teamwork, since it doesn't really effect success, crit or fail chances if you have more than just that one trait?
  • thaavethaave Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    indyshark wrote: »
    T'Pel and Kaas hit 3 out of the 4 traits for Vulcan. Are there any refugees that hit all 4?

    I also found 3 refugess that hit all of the Cardassian traits; Slani Kulok, Telen Ghejal and Damin Otek.

    Yes, Luchel. i can't remember the name of the female refugee.

    there is an andorian male with emotional and aggressive for the caitan asylum.

    i think every saurian is a perfect match for the respective assignment, but the problem is getting one.

    it doesn't matter whether a refugee has more traits when being slotted for an "one crit trait" assignment (unless one of the additional traits is a failure or disaster trait, which is pretty obvious). although i think that no "one crit trait" assignment has failure or disaster traits.
  • indysharkindyshark Member Posts: 1,551 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    Do you know the name of any saurian refugees?
  • indysharkindyshark Member Posts: 1,551 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    fraghul2000 wrote: »
    Wouldn't Trill include every Refugee that has Teamwork, since it doesn't really effect success, crit or fail chances if you have more than just that one trait?

    Yes, I think so. The question is more relevant for other planets with 2, 3 or even 4 traits.
  • fraghul2000fraghul2000 Member Posts: 1,590 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    indyshark wrote: »
    Do you know the name of any saurian refugees?

    all 3 commons:

    Rrannu, Mesde, Daamen,
  • indysharkindyshark Member Posts: 1,551 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    Thank you. I never see those refugees. They must be rare and used quickly when people get them.
  • blackjackwidowblackjackwidow Member Posts: 572 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    indyshark wrote: »
    I tend to buy refugees since I don't have enough to cover all of the missions I run. I have a list of all of the asylum missions and have started a list of common refugees that match all of the critical traits. For instance

    Andoria- There are three perfect refugees (Then Asnelav, Thylos Asali, and Rysva Byls)
    Earth - Two perfect refugees (Neva Gertrudis Wahid, and Jeffery Toby Lamar)
    Rigel - One, Syulag
    Trill - One, Nervu

    I have not found any for Bajor, Benzar, Betazed, Bolarus IX, Caitan, Sauria, Tellar Prime, or Vulcan. Can you identify any of the missing refugees?

    Perfect Vulcan/Tellar Prime/Betazed - T'Raalu(Vulcan) - logical, stubborn, telepathic, ff

    Perfect Tellar Prime - Pudo(Tellarite), Doza(Tellarite), T'Raalu (above-mentioned Vulcan)

    Perfect Trill are also perfect Earth - Neva and Jeffrey

    A suggestion - if you could update the original post with additional names as they are listed, it would be very helpful. :)
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  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    indyshark wrote: »
    Thank you. I never see those refugees. They must be rare and used quickly when people get them.
    Well, there's two kinds of common refugees. Support refugees and the rest of them. The support refugees have a limited number of races to choose from. I don't think there are any that are Saurian.
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  • indysharkindyshark Member Posts: 1,551 Arc User
    edited February 2013
    blackjackwidow wrote: »
    Perfect Vulcan/Tellar Prime/Betazed - T'Raalu(Vulcan) - logical, stubborn, telepathic, ff

    Perfect Tellar Prime - Pudo(Tellarite), Doza(Tellarite), T'Raalu (above-mentioned Vulcan)

    Perfect Trill are also perfect Earth - Neva and Jeffrey

    A suggestion - if you could update the original post with additional names as they are listed, it would be very helpful. :)

    Good idea. I just did that. I know have a list of all common refugees. I will complete the list.
  • blackjackwidowblackjackwidow Member Posts: 572 Arc User
    edited March 2013
    indyshark wrote: »
    Good idea. I just did that. I know have a list of all common refugees. I will complete the list.

    Thanks for the updated list - helpful. :)

    Another "Perfect" Trill - Purial (Trill) has only teamwork

    Appears you are looking for just the crit traits and no others in order to define perfect. However, any DOff with teamwork will be a perfect match - such as the Earth ones. The Vulcans are telepathic, so are a perfect match to the Betazed telepathic, but again, they have additional traits that don't have an effect on the outcome.
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  • lucho80lucho80 Member Posts: 6,600 Bug Hunter
    edited May 2013
    That list is a good start, but you forgot the Klingon equivalents. The list is also pretty incomplete.
  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    The list is mostly the Support refugees that you get Fed-side. :p
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  • gfreeman98gfreeman98 Member Posts: 1,201 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Nice thread to reference, thanks OP.
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  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Oh, and just to add something. Kaass (male Vulcan) is a perfect candidate for Betazed.
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  • ursusmorologusursusmorologus Member Posts: 5,328 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Refugees rewarded from Support assignments have perfect traits for that race's Asylum mission
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  • lucho80lucho80 Member Posts: 6,600 Bug Hunter
    edited May 2013
    Asylum in Betazed has the worst chances of success and the doffs usually only have two traits, one of them always being telepathic. I wouldn't throw perfectly good Vulcan doffs (Kaas, T'Pel) on that one.
  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    I like Betazoids.....
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  • eugenesyseugenesys Member Posts: 115 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    The easy way to tell for me is to look at the race.

    Eg: if you're gunning for vulcan asylum, use a vulcan....
  • pollyandjuhrompollyandjuhrom Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    I just realized that, after reading this thread, I know nothing about refugees.
  • lucho80lucho80 Member Posts: 6,600 Bug Hunter
    edited June 2013
    One crit trait Asylums are pretty bad, you get horrible chances at good doffs. Granted, if you have white refugees with bad traits, throw them in there. As for Vulcans, there are a lot of Vulcan white refugees with telephatic, logical, and FF (the exceptions are less than the good ones). Throw those into the Vulcan asylum. For Tellar prime, throw any FF and stubborn since aggressive isn't a bad trait there. For the Andoria asylum, I think there are only 3 good white doffs, one not being from the chain. As far as I can remember Earth only has two. If you get a blue or green refugee from grinding doffs, you're most likely better of selling it for EC than playing the Asylum lottery from it. On the KDF side, each Asylum seems to have at least two great refugees, but since refs are harder to get there, you have to deal with what little is out there. For other Asylums, there is always a good or decent refugee to throw in. Any congenial goes great for Bolians, etc, etc.
  • thomasriker85thomasriker85 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    in case there are any other peeps using this as a reference, like me, STO wiki has a solid list here: http://sto.gamepedia.com/Specialization:_Refugee/Starfleet

    To help with the process.
  • indysharkindyshark Member Posts: 1,551 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    It looks like I need to update my list. I think I will do so and break out refugees that match on two traits verus three. I noticed there are some new refugees I need to add to my list. Not sure when they got added. I will also check to see if they dropped some. There are some refugees on my list that I have never seen, so perhaps they are gone.

    Not sure when I can do this. It takes a while to create the list and the files are at home, so I can't look at them for a while.
  • indysharkindyshark Member Posts: 1,551 Arc User
    edited February 2014
    As a further refinement, I may add green and blue perfect refugees. Sometimes they are worth buying. I have enough money to afford them if the price is right.
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