...talking to players is like being a mall Santa. Everyone immediately wants to tell you all of the things they want, and you are absolutely powerless to deliver 99% of them.
Huh, that's interesting! Though, I have to wonder - if we've blown up over 75k Voth ships, what about the others? How many Borg have we vaporized? Or the Undine? Or, heck, Klingons (not counting players)
I don't understand something, how can there be 3.2 million Captains (either players or characters) but only 1.6 million starships? Do half of the captains in game just not have a starship? How does that work?
I don't understand something, how can there be 3.2 million Captains (either players or characters) but only 1.6 million starships? Do half of the captains in game just not have a starship? How does that work?
The one interesting statistic I see there is 3.2 million captains but only 2.8 million reputations completed. There are currently 4 reputations per captain not including event rep. So there are a possible 12.8 million reps and only 2.8 million done. Sounds like we need to streamline the old reps like Dyson to improve these numbers.
I have to admit I didn't do my reps but on one toon until the dyson release but with mirror universe gone I don't see myself finishing the other 8 toons who have yet to start it. There just isn't very many ways at end game to earn XP in decent quantities... on average its 15k xp per day per rep = 60k XP daily needed and each mission replay on average gives 5k XP so I would need to do 12 mission replays a day... insane!
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Thanks for the expansion that had "as much content as the last"
9 Episodes = 30+ episodes...?
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It's pronounced "S.T.O." "Stow" sounds idiotic! lol
So, what I am curious about is the 300 playable starships to command. I counted:
11 Fed shuttles
32 Fed cruisers
31 Fed escorts
29 Fed Science vessels
5 KDF shuttles
70 KDF ships of all types
4 Rom shuttles
38 Romulan ships of all types
3 Cross faction shuttles
2 cross faction freighters
7 cross faction cruisers
8 cross faction escorts
2 cross faction science ships
4 cross faction carriers
Add in the 3 Dyson ships added today, and all told I have 249 ships. And yes, that is including all fleet ships, c-store versions, lock box ships, etc. Everything listed on the wiki site plus the three new ones. So, what am I missing?
The one interesting statistic I see there is 3.2 million captains but only 2.8 million reputations completed. There are currently 4 reputations per captain not including event rep. So there are a possible 12.8 million reps and only 2.8 million done. Sounds like we need to streamline the old reps like Dyson to improve these numbers.
I have to admit I didn't do my reps but on one toon until the dyson release but with mirror universe gone I don't see myself finishing the other 8 toons who have yet to start it. There just isn't very many ways at end game to earn XP in decent quantities... on average its 15k xp per day per rep = 60k XP daily needed and each mission replay on average gives 5k XP so I would need to do 12 mission replays a day... insane!
Actually, it's written as 'reputation projects'. Which would lead me to believe that on average, every character hasn't even started 1 reputation project. That would be a terrible result for reps.
If I'm wrong though and they meant reputations completed (4 available per toon) as you say, it'd be quite successful, I'm afraid.
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Actually, it's written as 'reputation projects'. Which would lead me to believe that on average, every character hasn't even started 1 reputation project. That would be a terrible result for reps.
If I'm wrong though and they meant reputations completed (4 available per toon) as you say, it'd be quite successful, I'm afraid.
I have 18 toons... I only did it on 1 until dyson and the winter event and then I completed it on another 8 since then but I still have 9 more to do it. So I have 9 who did and 9 who have done nothing. I oblviously can't speak to everyone but I'm sure many people have only done it on a few of their captains. I usually use all fleet gear too so rep gear doesn't really mean much to me it was just for the passives.
Knowing STO, like any business, is probably using the more inflated equation to show numbers by counting individual reps as completed and not a captains entire rep (all 4) as completed which how I came to my conclusion earlier.
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Actually, it's written as 'reputation projects'. Which would lead me to believe that on average, every character hasn't even started 1 reputation project. That would be a terrible result for reps.
If I'm wrong though and they meant reputations completed (4 available per toon) as you say, it'd be quite successful, I'm afraid.
While all my characters are indeed Level 50, remember, not everyone Levels to 50 (where you unlock the STO Reputation system). A lot use games like these to just socialize. Lastly, that 3.2 million may be characters created since launch in 2010, not all of which may still be used/owned by active player accounts.
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Actually, it's written as 'reputation projects'. Which would lead me to believe that on average, every character hasn't even started 1 reputation project. That would be a terrible result for reps.
If I'm wrong though and they meant reputations completed (4 available per toon) as you say, it'd be quite successful, I'm afraid.
Reputation Projects vrs. Whole Reputation Systems
Yeah, that is a bad number.
How do you get 2.8 millionreputation projects completed and only 75,500 Voth ships killed? Technically, way-way-way less than 75,500 captains, out of 3.2 million, have been playing Dyson space. Can you say, 'OUCH!'. Dyson is a failure.
We can now make the argument that - between 2013 and 2014, 1.2 million new accounts (or individual captains) were solely created for grinding resources.
While the number of captains have increased, due to players using one account to grind resources for another, the overall success of Season Eight is next to null.
3.2 million "Captains"? Sure if you're counting the 3.19 million "Vice Admirals".
300 playable ships? (http://sto.gamepedia.com/Playable_starship), ~103 Federation + ~75 Klingon Defense Force (corrected from 64) + ~42 Romulan + ~26 Cross-faction = 246 total individual ships. Looks like someone decided to double count Romulan and Cross-faction ships, or triple-count the Cross-faction ships before making the infographic. Shame shame, we know your name!
So, what I am curious about is the 300 playable starships to command. I counted:
11 Fed shuttles
32 Fed cruisers
31 Fed escorts
29 Fed Science vessels
5 KDF shuttles
70 KDF ships of all types
4 Rom shuttles
38 Romulan ships of all types
3 Cross faction shuttles
2 cross faction freighters
7 cross faction cruisers
8 cross faction escorts
2 cross faction science ships
4 cross faction carriers
Add in the 3 Dyson ships added today, and all told I have 249 ships. And yes, that is including all fleet ships, c-store versions, lock box ships, etc. Everything listed on the wiki site plus the three new ones. So, what am I missing?
See my note above while realizing you double counted the anniversary ships (they're already on the wiki)
Either way - Clearly "nowhere near 300 actual ships."
what happened that your not suppose to release numbers about the mmorpg? all while dan stahl was at helm and jack i forget his name, still in charge of cryptic. said numbers would never be discussed.
3.2 million "Captains"? Sure if you're counting the 3.19 million "Vice Admirals".
300 playable ships? (http://sto.gamepedia.com/Playable_starship), ~103 Federation + ~75 Klingon Defense Force (corrected from 64) + ~42 Romulan + ~26 Cross-faction = 246 total individual ships. Looks like someone decided to double count Romulan and Cross-faction ships, or triple-count the Cross-faction ships before making the infographic. Shame shame, we know your name!
See my note above while realizing you double counted the anniversary ships (they're already on the wiki)
Either way - Clearly "nowhere near 300 actual ships."
Are you sure you counted all ships classes as opposed to ship types, i.e. Cheyenne-, Stargazer- and Dakota-classes instead of Heavy Cruiser? Sorry to be picky.
I'm afraid I haven't contributed to either the Reputations Completed or Voth Ships Destroyed stats. I just don't really care that much about my rep, and this antiquated computer starts to cry every time I try to fly inside the Sphere, so none of my toons have had anything to do with any of that.
So, by your own numbers, the reputation system is a complete failure. 3.2 million captains(stop playing the pronoun game and just say "players" or "characters," it's getting ridiculous). 2.8 million completed rep projects. Now wait a minute: I don't exactly know how many projects it takes to get from t1 to t5, but let's just do a little math, shall we? 4 Rep systems. At LEAST 2 projects per day. So, that's 8. Which, if you multiply it by 3.2 million captains(there we go with that word again. I'm just going to assume you mean characters, for the point of this statement. The math would only increase if we were going to assume that "captain" means "player," as many players have multiple characters. I myself have 20) would equal about 25 million projects. PER DAY. To only have 2.8 million projects completed since its release means that not only is it a fail, but an EPIC FAIL.
All that, and the Mini-Q shell game for what used to be an anniversary "gift" is still painfully tedious to do once, much less 15 times each for 10 captains.
Yeah, I'll get the Dyson Grind Ships for my 3 Sci captains and skip the rest. Mind you for me, that's within microns of "[REDACTED] it, I'll sit this bout of suckage out."
So over the last year 1.2 million new captains were created and 6 million new ships were commissioned. If you take the 16 million total number of ships in service divided by the 3.2 million captains that averages out to exactly 5 ships per captain. Given that the game rewards each captain with 5 starships (rank up) + 1 free shuttle (which they have to count to reach the 300 available ships in game number) + free ships from episodes like "Sphere of Influence" & "Temporal Ambassador," and the previous anniversary events, and the previous winter and summer events , plus C-Store give away events. All of this combined with the other statistics given tells me that there are a lot of new players signing up but quitting before hitting level 50 and a lot of alts that have been abandoned.
what happened that your not suppose to release numbers about the mmorpg? all while dan stahl was at helm and jack i forget his name, still in charge of cryptic. said numbers would never be discussed.
They release "generalized" numbers not specifics. It's been done for years now
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Not a statistic that any MMO company is likely to release.
I love the graphic, though - it's cool to see even these numbers.
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16 million, not 1.6 million.
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I have to admit I didn't do my reps but on one toon until the dyson release but with mirror universe gone I don't see myself finishing the other 8 toons who have yet to start it. There just isn't very many ways at end game to earn XP in decent quantities... on average its 15k xp per day per rep = 60k XP daily needed and each mission replay on average gives 5k XP so I would need to do 12 mission replays a day... insane!
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Well, reading comprehension is not with me today.
I wonder what the total amount of refined dil is.
And since no one said it yet, HAPPY 4TH TO EVERYONE!
Ships of this age are probably designed to function with a minimal crew - one if neccessary.
9 Episodes = 30+ episodes...?
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It's pronounced "S.T.O." "Stow" sounds idiotic! lol
11 Fed shuttles
32 Fed cruisers
31 Fed escorts
29 Fed Science vessels
5 KDF shuttles
70 KDF ships of all types
4 Rom shuttles
38 Romulan ships of all types
3 Cross faction shuttles
2 cross faction freighters
7 cross faction cruisers
8 cross faction escorts
2 cross faction science ships
4 cross faction carriers
Add in the 3 Dyson ships added today, and all told I have 249 ships. And yes, that is including all fleet ships, c-store versions, lock box ships, etc. Everything listed on the wiki site plus the three new ones. So, what am I missing?
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Actually, it's written as 'reputation projects'. Which would lead me to believe that on average, every character hasn't even started 1 reputation project. That would be a terrible result for reps.
If I'm wrong though and they meant reputations completed (4 available per toon) as you say, it'd be quite successful, I'm afraid.
Toi'Va, Ti'vath, Toivia, Ty'Vris, Tia Vex, Toi'Virth: Add Tier 6 KDF Carrier and Raider.
Tae'Va, T'Vaya, To'Var, Tevra, T'Vira, To'Vrak: Give us Asylums for Romulans.
Don't make ARC mandatory! Keep it optional only!
I have 18 toons... I only did it on 1 until dyson and the winter event and then I completed it on another 8 since then but I still have 9 more to do it. So I have 9 who did and 9 who have done nothing. I oblviously can't speak to everyone but I'm sure many people have only done it on a few of their captains. I usually use all fleet gear too so rep gear doesn't really mean much to me it was just for the passives.
Knowing STO, like any business, is probably using the more inflated equation to show numbers by counting individual reps as completed and not a captains entire rep (all 4) as completed which how I came to my conclusion earlier.
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While all my characters are indeed Level 50, remember, not everyone Levels to 50 (where you unlock the STO Reputation system). A lot use games like these to just socialize. Lastly, that 3.2 million may be characters created since launch in 2010, not all of which may still be used/owned by active player accounts.
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only 10 chars? I have 20 :P
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Yeah, that is a bad number.
How do you get 2.8 million reputation projects completed and only 75,500 Voth ships killed? Technically, way-way-way less than 75,500 captains, out of 3.2 million, have been playing Dyson space. Can you say, 'OUCH!'. Dyson is a failure.
Link: 2013 Anniversary Infographic
We can now make the argument that - between 2013 and 2014, 1.2 million new accounts (or individual captains) were solely created for grinding resources.
While the number of captains have increased, due to players using one account to grind resources for another, the overall success of Season Eight is next to null.
How many of those captains are active?
3.2 million "Captains"? Sure if you're counting the 3.19 million "Vice Admirals".
300 playable ships? (http://sto.gamepedia.com/Playable_starship), ~103 Federation + ~75 Klingon Defense Force (corrected from 64) + ~42 Romulan + ~26 Cross-faction = 246 total individual ships. Looks like someone decided to double count Romulan and Cross-faction ships, or triple-count the Cross-faction ships before making the infographic. Shame shame, we know your name!
See my note above while realizing you double counted the anniversary ships (they're already on the wiki)
Either way - Clearly "nowhere near 300 actual ships."
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Are you sure you counted all ships classes as opposed to ship types, i.e. Cheyenne-, Stargazer- and Dakota-classes instead of Heavy Cruiser? Sorry to be picky.
But, happy anniversary.
Yeah, I'll get the Dyson Grind Ships for my 3 Sci captains and skip the rest. Mind you for me, that's within microns of "[REDACTED] it, I'll sit this bout of suckage out."
So over the last year 1.2 million new captains were created and 6 million new ships were commissioned. If you take the 16 million total number of ships in service divided by the 3.2 million captains that averages out to exactly 5 ships per captain. Given that the game rewards each captain with 5 starships (rank up) + 1 free shuttle (which they have to count to reach the 300 available ships in game number) + free ships from episodes like "Sphere of Influence" & "Temporal Ambassador," and the previous anniversary events, and the previous winter and summer events , plus C-Store give away events. All of this combined with the other statistics given tells me that there are a lot of new players signing up but quitting before hitting level 50 and a lot of alts that have been abandoned.
They release "generalized" numbers not specifics. It's been done for years now
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