assuming you mean me... 97 ish native (2pc aegis (10% bonus def via engine and 2pc bonus), 3x dyson console - doffed a2d replaces the lost rcs/neut values) , a hell of a lot more when ap0 and impulse cell/evasive/duet kick in
...of course the best thing is killing the crystalline entity with a hyperspeed ramming speed^^
Only issue is I'm going so fast, I have difficulty doing enough damage before I'm behind them - although it does look awesome,, seeing a graviton torp spread 3 and a few extra torps hit seconds after you got out of range, with a chroniton mine chaser to discourage pursuers
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Edit - I recently moved my faster corvette (the torpboat) build to the plesh brek so the above value is from memory - I'm still up in the air about the utility of flanking, but I'm seriously missing my corvettes ability to stick two fingers up at all the firepower pve mobs bring to bear (outrunning borg plasma balls was too much fun, never tried seeing if I can evade borg lances though yet...)
Well I know the Corvette can get well in excess of plus 230% bonus defense when well equiped. So why not slap some elite fleet Disruptors on it, an AMS console, a GPG console and a Thetavent console?
That way you can basically hold them, destroy their shields, cover them in Theta and then blind them so they are completly defenseless for a friend to dispatch.
I regularly take my sci B'rel torp boat into Ker'rat. It's always funny. I rarely get to kill someone on my own though, unless I get a lucky crit on my cluster torps.
So I mostly troll people. When I see some dude taking on a group of probes/spheres, I drop a grav well and one or two torp spreads with the dyson torp. There are always some great lulz to be had when I manage to trap someone this way and watch them melt along with the Borg. :P
Or following Fedroms, waiting till they cloak and then hitting their bare hulls with torp spread and high yield. I never get tired of being called a hacker or being told that my B'rel is full of cheese when I do that.
When I see fellow BoP pilots facing a Fedball I like to jump into their center and drop AMS or scrambles on those faw spamming feddies. It's a great tool for trolling, bonus points if these guys kill each other thanks to scramble or AMS.
Can't count the times anymore where I was the sole reason for Feddies to form up a Fedball.
I've considered training up Scramble 3 on my B'rel and then droping it on an unsuspecting Fedball after they were trying to gun down a fellow Klingun. Just to watch the world burn.. so to speak
I also enjoy using my dino Torp Boat sci ship on fed side. I just love using TBR + Doff + GW + Doff + EWP + Spread 3. Even funnier when I'm in a C&H or Arena and some how actually catch 3 team members with that combo and almost single handedly kill them. ^_^
But definitely to me so far the best trololol boat has been the B'rel. I don't even try to get kills with it.. I just use HY 2 + 1x Photon Torp. I have a Photon Mine and Tractor Mine in the back. I mean I have 2 DHC's on my front, but I never use them. I'm too lazy to swap in something to actually get kills with. Not to mention it's more fun just being a sneaky SNBer. Nothing says fun like watching some one come in to Vape a target and then their buffs get nuked off..
The appearance of the way the person flys afterwords is just priceless.. Like they were all ready to go..and then just went flat. I'd sware this is what then plays in my head. "I was in the Pool!"
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Well I know the Corvette can get well in excess of plus 230% bonus defense when well equiped. So why not slap some elite fleet Disruptors on it, an AMS console, a GPG console and a Thetavent console?
That way you can basically hold them, destroy their shields, cover them in Theta and then blind them so they are completly defenseless for a friend to dispatch.
I prefer torp boats (all my power goes to aux and engine) to be honest for my trollvette - as to the console suggestions, I considered them, but I found them too poor for purpose - too long a cooldown and that at high speeds, all three suffer from poor performance (theta, for example deploys as 'puffs' of cloud in a line, meaning you can literally miss catching the opponent in it - also the game tends not to render ewp/theta in such situations - or so I've been told)
nice suggestions however - I noticed I had 60-odd weapon power to use so I tossed a nannite disruptor dual cannon on the fore in lieu of the breen cluster - the extra 'pew' added to the fore firing cycle has helped to a degree
edit: Did some more testing - I've hit 660.3 impulse with 760- somethng % defence
base impulse (cycled epte1 and eps3 +a2d cycled) is 97.4% defence, 170 impulse
I've tested it, and I can get from qo'nos (with a rolling start to full throttle before buffs) almost to the debris ring in under eight seconds (the impulse cell duration)
(no idea what that distance is in km, sadly)
its throughly impractical to buff to such speed (although hilarious on a mirror voquv ), but great fun all the same
I Like troll jem bugs, aux to battery users, and 1 trick alpha strike romulans. I use the complete Voth ship set with a powerful feed back pulse / Immunity matrix console. I enjoy popping people abusing aux to bat in Kerrat. You Federation gankers deserve it. If the feds somehow beat me, the Voth repair ship console will bring me back. The trolling will continue... Voth Battle cloak is perfect for the troll mission...
You cheese abusers must die. I'll make you feel like garbage... Stop cheating and using rom placate... Cant wait to FAW crit again. Feed back pulse / Immunity matrix will pop many feds at the same time, within 4 seconds. Does not matter how much firepower you have, I'll defeat you in Kerrat.
FACT: Jem bugs run from me in Kerrat. They better... Most likely to pilot is too aggressive to cease fire when Feed back pulse is up... LOL
The dress is gold and white. Over 70% people says so. When viewed from a certain screen angle it appears blue and black. The dress displayed on amazon is a blue and black dress, but it's not the same dress in the picture. If you're seeing blue & black you're slightly colored blind. A normal upright screen = white and gold.
I Like troll jem bugs, aux to battery users, and 1 trick alpha strike romulans. I use the complete Voth ship set with a powerful feed back pulse / Immunity matrix console. I enjoy popping people abusing aux to bat in Kerrat. You Federation gankers deserve it. If the feds somehow beat me, the Voth repair ship console will bring me back. The trolling will continue... Voth Battle cloak is perfect for the troll mission...
You cheese abusers must die. I'll make you feel like garbage... Stop cheating and using rom placate... Cant wait to FAW crit again. Feed back pulse / Immunity matrix will pop many feds at the same time, within 4 seconds. Does not matter how much firepower you have, I'll defeat you in Kerrat.
FACT: Jem bugs run from me in Kerrat. They better... Most likely to pilot is too aggressive to cease fire when Feed back pulse is up... LOL
Ever notice someone come in and run a false attack run so you bleed off your FBP, only to turn around cloak and decloak alpha you.... Yea, you just got trolled.
Ever notice someone come in and run a false attack run so you bleed off your FBP, only to turn around cloak and decloak alpha you.... Yea, you just got trolled.
Nope, they'll die cause of immunity matrix right after FBP ends, and when immunity matrix ends, FBP will be back up... And if you try to act smart and not shoot, I'll jam you and kill you. If all fails-- battle cloak and repeat... They can't win... Ever... If they get lucky, I'll comeback in 2 seconds... Then the process starts over. :cool: Trololololol
Yes bc FBP and the immunity matrix plus battlecloak on a science ship with a shield mod of 1.45 isn't cheese and abuse either.
TROLL!!
It's not cheese, it's my ship's special abilities. Ship's special abilities are not cheese because only that ship can use it. Cheese is stuff with little or no counter. IE: rom placate, A2B , Black cloud console, etc. You know complete Bull**** that should have never been created in the first place (thanks Cryptic)... I only go after people abusing those types of cheese.
I'm an expert at this.
The dress is gold and white. Over 70% people says so. When viewed from a certain screen angle it appears blue and black. The dress displayed on amazon is a blue and black dress, but it's not the same dress in the picture. If you're seeing blue & black you're slightly colored blind. A normal upright screen = white and gold.
Nope, they'll die cause of immunity matrix right after FBP ends, and when immunity matrix ends, FBP will be back up... And if you try to act smart and not shoot, I'll jam you and kill you. If all fails-- battle cloak and repeat... They can't win... Ever... If they get lucky, I'll comeback in 2 seconds... Then the process starts over. :cool:
I'm an expert at this.
Nice in theory bit in practice is another. For someone not paying attention yes you will prob get them. But any ganker worth their weight is not going to be in 10k with you for nor than a second one you pop the feedback pulse. Not saying a build like that is going to pop easy but your lack of dps would only be a threat to squishy or low level players (ie your not invulnerable).
Not to mention most of my chars can subnuke off said annoyance.
Its not the escort tac you need to watch out for, its the escort sci.
Even on an escort tac, if all else fails id zip off a few dozen KM, swap in an RSP, come back and just alpha rsp right into the damn feedback pulse and not give a damn, then GDF ram them to finish them, for the pure hilarity.
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So in terms of kerrat your a farmer. Trolling in context of kerrat means trying to one up the competition which usually leads to someone getting mad, at least that is the overwhelming majority of the posts in here.
Nope, they'll die cause of immunity matrix right after FBP ends, and when immunity matrix ends, FBP will be back up... And if you try to act smart and not shoot, I'll jam you and kill you. If all fails-- battle cloak and repeat... They can't win... Ever... If they get lucky, I'll comeback in 2 seconds... Then the process starts over. :cool: Trololololol
It's not cheese, it's my ship's special abilities. Ship's special abilities are not cheese because only that ship can use it. Cheese is stuff with little or no counter. IE: rom placate, A2B , Black cloud console, etc. You know complete Bull**** that should have never been created in the first place (thanks Cryptic)... I only go after people abusing those types of cheese.
I'm an expert at this.
Torp Boats LULz at FPB btw Can't FBP a Torpedo!
You can Jam.. but what'cha gunna do when your stuck in Warp Pee + TBR + doff that don't need to target you? :P
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Nope, they'll die cause of immunity matrix right after FBP ends, and when immunity matrix ends, FBP will be back up... And if you try to act smart and not shoot, I'll jam you and kill you. If all fails-- battle cloak and repeat... They can't win... Ever... If they get lucky, I'll comeback in 2 seconds... Then the process starts over. :cool: Trololololol
It's not cheese, it's my ship's special abilities. Ship's special abilities are not cheese because only that ship can use it. Cheese is stuff with little or no counter. IE: rom placate, A2B , Black cloud console, etc. You know complete Bull**** that should have never been created in the first place (thanks Cryptic)... I only go after people abusing those types of cheese.
I'm an expert at this.
Coming back from the dead is no less 'cheese' than placate on crit.
The game is up, your goals are clear. You were all about 1-hit KO gravity wells until I happened to mention counters to BFAW spam like FBP. That is no coincidence. You are the very definition of scrub, dismissing all tactics not used by yourself as 'OP and 'cheese', because all you care about is that 'I WIN' button(which, believe it or not, does not exist. period. There will always be a build/player combination that can stalemate or kill yours), not enjoying the game, and learning valid counters to the various things you call 'cheese'. I don't need a forum post to figure out counters, or to make a solid build. It would seem you do. Learn to play. While you are at it, grow a sense of sportsmanship. By definition, somebody has to lose in PVP. That does not mean you scream 'cheese' when it happens to you, that means you re-evaluate how to counter said 'cheese'.
That is counter-able, but as you seem to only learn such things when people tell you them outright, and due to your attitude and usage of such information, I'm no longer in a sharing mood.
Coming back from the dead is no less 'cheese' than placate on crit.
The game is up, your goals are clear. You were all about 1-hit KO gravity wells until I happened to mention counters to BFAW spam like FBP. That is no coincidence. You are the very definition of scrub, dismissing all tactics not used by yourself as 'OP and 'cheese', because all you care about is that 'I WIN' button(which, believe it or not, does not exist. period. There will always be a build/player combination that can stalemate or kill yours), not enjoying the game, and learning valid counters to the various things you call 'cheese'. I don't need a forum post to figure out counters, or to make a solid build. It would seem you do. Learn to play.
That is counter-able, but as you seem to only learn such things when people tell you them outright, and due to your attitude and usage of such information, I'm no longer in a sharing mood.
I like how they say A2B and Integration circuit have no counters >_>
Target aux subsystem, tykens, general energy siphon drain builds, leech, viral matrix, blahblahblahblah
AMS, Scramble, reverse tbr and just drag them a mile away...
The black cloud is 100 percent counterable by a romulan with a single charge of singularity power (sing jump always jumps you completely out of it)
Doesnt even cover omega, damps, epte... etcetc
>_> Sometimes I wonder.
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I like how they say A2B and Integration circuit have no counters >_>
Target aux subsystem, tykens, general energy siphon drain builds, leech, viral matrix, blahblahblahblah
AMS, Scramble, reverse tbr and just drag them a mile away...
The black cloud is 100 percent counterable by a romulan with a single charge of singularity power (sing jump always jumps you completely out of it)
Doesnt even cover omega, damps, epte... etcetc
>_> Sometimes I wonder.
wait, integration circuit is that romulan lockbox device right? man my engineer/escort just shrugs that off. i dont understand why people have so much trouble with it.
i'm convinced that the real issue with these builds is not that "oh they're unbeatable" its that they're unbeatable, with a TACTICAL. i've heard from several of these people that they dont even have an engineer/science.
as an engineer primarily (3 engies, 2 tacticals, 1 science) i find that the best counter characters is my engineer or science. built right i can counter 99% of the builds in this game. just means all those tactical characters out there need to figure out some team work for once and tag team with a debuff ship to circumvent well thought out builds.
a good PVP game should be a tactics war. more thought put into something the more powerful it is. that's true of most combat, its only logical STO is the same.
Coming back from the dead is no less 'cheese' than placate on crit.
The game is up, your goals are clear. You were all about 1-hit KO gravity wells until I happened to mention counters to BFAW spam like FBP. That is no coincidence. You are the very definition of scrub, dismissing all tactics not used by yourself as 'OP and 'cheese', because all you care about is that 'I WIN' button(which, believe it or not, does not exist. period. There will always be a build/player combination that can stalemate or kill yours), not enjoying the game, and learning valid counters to the various things you call 'cheese'. I don't need a forum post to figure out counters, or to make a solid build. It would seem you do. Learn to play. While you are at it, grow a sense of sportsmanship. By definition, somebody has to lose in PVP. That does not mean you scream 'cheese' when it happens to you, that means you re-evaluate how to counter said 'cheese'.
That is counter-able, but as you seem to only learn such things when people tell you them outright, and due to your attitude and usage of such information, I'm no longer in a sharing mood.
Doesn't matter. I know I can beat you. Talk like you know all, you don't. Do have to put you in your place too? I don't pretend to be good, I'm good. I've been battling in Kerrat for 3 years. If you think I need the forums to learn anything, you have be insane...
I hope you're not all talk. I'm a just bring it type person. You act like FBP is all I use. My ship also has something called weapons. I use those. I guess you forgot to factor that in. I use no cheese. In pvp it counts as a loss if I revive with a console. I'm sure you didn't know that. Looks like you need the forums more than I do...
I've already factored everything in. Only jem bug rom placate users stand a slight chance against me in my prime build. Personally I look down on pure cheese users. I'm not surprised you're defending what's destroying PVP. Typical...
The dress is gold and white. Over 70% people says so. When viewed from a certain screen angle it appears blue and black. The dress displayed on amazon is a blue and black dress, but it's not the same dress in the picture. If you're seeing blue & black you're slightly colored blind. A normal upright screen = white and gold.
Doesn't matter. I know I can beat you. Talk like you know all, you don't. Do have to put you in your place too? I don't pretend to be good, I'm good. I've been battling in Kerrat for 3 years. If you think I need the forums to learn anything, you have be insane...
I hope you're not all talk. I'm a just bring it type person. You act like FBP is all I use. My ship also has something called weapons. I use those. I guess you forgot to factor that in. I use no cheese. In pvp it counts as a loss if I revive with a console. I'm sure you didn't know that. Looks like you need the forums more than I do...
I've already factored everything in. Only jem bug rom placate users stand a slight chance against me in my prime build. Personally I look down on pure cheese users. I'm not surprised you're defending what's destroying PVP. Typical...
This post... almost makes me want to start coming to Kerrat to find you.
Almost.
Youre used to killing scrub baddies in Kerrat whereas many of us are used to fighting full on premade teams loaded with some serious business tactics. Two different worlds really.
But I am pretty confident I could stomp you on about five of my characters, no bug required.
And another thing, I dont need cheese either. I am rather well known among my circle of friends as the cleanest player of us all. They had to twist my arm to get me to put together a five sci cheeseball and even then I felt dirty.
I dont think I am good either, I know I am. Been called out more times than I can count for my snark, and have never lost an epeen 1v1 challenge after someone got rolled in an arena.
If your post was directed at me, be real careful who you call out. Im just saying.
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did you just say..... you've been battling in kerrat for the past 3 years? ...... waaaaay back in the early days of kerrat, you know before F2P, i started farming kerrat as a daily pass time, and did so as a daily even up until season 7 when i started doing more PVE with my fleet to get them up to par.....
during that time i never heard of you. there's only two people that have been able to consistently beat me. a bugship, and the universe' best BOP. (wont use names as i dont know if that's allowed... dun think it is.) back in the day i used to fly around in kerrat without shields as a dare to other ships to engage me, and i rarely lost. i can remember in detail each fight i lost in. i'd remember you if you were one of the good ones. sorry, your not.
only thing that's destroyed PVP is bugships. plain. and. simple. nothing about that ship makes sense to be as good as it is. if you're gonna whine about PVP start there.
Oh look at that.. an Epeen measuring contest.. Want to know the greatest way to settle those? PVP. I say you both put your text where your fingers are and just face each other in a 1v1. Get it over with. Make sure you have some one to Record it. And then show it off to the community at large.
Also, as far as
It is a sad, petty individual who takes pleasure in the aggravation of others.
goes, I Don't take pleasure in the aggravation of others in general, just the ones that are getting aggravated about playing the game in general in the way that the area is designed.. Some examples:
"Stop killing me! I'm just trying to finish the mission!"
Or
"lol you can only kill me when your in a group." and possibly "lol you can only kill me when I'm being attacked by borg."
Those types of statements show that the person involved did not seem to realize they were in an Open PVP zone, or are already trying to troll and deserve to be trolled back.
Sorry if I'm a sad and petty individual in your eyes, but in my eyes I see my self as simply doing unto another as they would have done unto me. Especially if I'm on a Klingon surrounded by Feds and getting ganked. :cool:
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Calm down, peeps. This isn't what the thread is for. Don't let others get to ya. If he wants to express his superiority, so what? Why waste your time replying to someone who obviously wouldn't listen to a thing you say?
Continuing in the spirit of the thread, there have been times I fired a gravimetric torp spread at a running cloaker, who cloaks and then gets knocked right out again.
There has also been once or twice when I discovered an FBP/RSP user. All energy, so what could I do? Answer: Tractor and then drop a bunch of Voth spatial charges on him XD. Those things absolutely blow stuff apart if you can get them to hit. And some FBP users are a little overconfident, so they don't care about the tractor.....
Come to think of it, there was the time I used those on a sphere, followed by a singularity explosion popping into existence from the AOE damage
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Well I know the Corvette can get well in excess of plus 230% bonus defense when well equiped. So why not slap some elite fleet Disruptors on it, an AMS console, a GPG console and a Thetavent console?
That way you can basically hold them, destroy their shields, cover them in Theta and then blind them so they are completly defenseless for a friend to dispatch.
R.I.P
So I mostly troll people. When I see some dude taking on a group of probes/spheres, I drop a grav well and one or two torp spreads with the dyson torp. There are always some great lulz to be had when I manage to trap someone this way and watch them melt along with the Borg. :P
Or following Fedroms, waiting till they cloak and then hitting their bare hulls with torp spread and high yield. I never get tired of being called a hacker or being told that my B'rel is full of cheese when I do that.
When I see fellow BoP pilots facing a Fedball I like to jump into their center and drop AMS or scrambles on those faw spamming feddies. It's a great tool for trolling, bonus points if these guys kill each other thanks to scramble or AMS.
Can't count the times anymore where I was the sole reason for Feddies to form up a Fedball.
I also enjoy using my dino Torp Boat sci ship on fed side. I just love using TBR + Doff + GW + Doff + EWP + Spread 3. Even funnier when I'm in a C&H or Arena and some how actually catch 3 team members with that combo and almost single handedly kill them. ^_^
But definitely to me so far the best trololol boat has been the B'rel. I don't even try to get kills with it.. I just use HY 2 + 1x Photon Torp. I have a Photon Mine and Tractor Mine in the back. I mean I have 2 DHC's on my front, but I never use them. I'm too lazy to swap in something to actually get kills with. Not to mention it's more fun just being a sneaky SNBer. Nothing says fun like watching some one come in to Vape a target and then their buffs get nuked off..
The appearance of the way the person flys afterwords is just priceless.. Like they were all ready to go..and then just went flat.
Think about this:
American Football has been in open beta for 144 years. ~Kotaku
I prefer torp boats (all my power goes to aux and engine) to be honest for my trollvette - as to the console suggestions, I considered them, but I found them too poor for purpose - too long a cooldown and that at high speeds, all three suffer from poor performance (theta, for example deploys as 'puffs' of cloud in a line, meaning you can literally miss catching the opponent in it - also the game tends not to render ewp/theta in such situations - or so I've been told)
nice suggestions however - I noticed I had 60-odd weapon power to use so I tossed a nannite disruptor dual cannon on the fore in lieu of the breen cluster - the extra 'pew' added to the fore firing cycle has helped to a degree
edit: Did some more testing - I've hit 660.3 impulse with 760- somethng % defence
base impulse (cycled epte1 and eps3 +a2d cycled) is 97.4% defence, 170 impulse
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I've tested it, and I can get from qo'nos (with a rolling start to full throttle before buffs) almost to the debris ring in under eight seconds (the impulse cell duration)
(no idea what that distance is in km, sadly)
its throughly impractical to buff to such speed (although hilarious on a mirror voquv
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Not half :eek:
Unless it's Klingon gankers. They deserve it. :mad:
You cheese abusers must die. I'll make you feel like garbage... Stop cheating and using rom placate... Cant wait to FAW crit again. Feed back pulse / Immunity matrix will pop many feds at the same time, within 4 seconds. Does not matter how much firepower you have, I'll defeat you in Kerrat.
FACT: Jem bugs run from me in Kerrat. They better... Most likely to pilot is too aggressive to cease fire when Feed back pulse is up... LOL
Ever notice someone come in and run a false attack run so you bleed off your FBP, only to turn around cloak and decloak alpha you.... Yea, you just got trolled.
Nope, they'll die cause of immunity matrix right after FBP ends, and when immunity matrix ends, FBP will be back up... And if you try to act smart and not shoot, I'll jam you and kill you. If all fails-- battle cloak and repeat... They can't win... Ever... If they get lucky, I'll comeback in 2 seconds... Then the process starts over. :cool: Trololololol
It's not cheese, it's my ship's special abilities. Ship's special abilities are not cheese because only that ship can use it. Cheese is stuff with little or no counter. IE: rom placate, A2B , Black cloud console, etc. You know complete Bull**** that should have never been created in the first place (thanks Cryptic)... I only go after people abusing those types of cheese.
I'm an expert at this.
So is the decloak alpha strike of a 40 crit rom ship
I am an expert too.
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Nice in theory bit in practice is another. For someone not paying attention yes you will prob get them. But any ganker worth their weight is not going to be in 10k with you for nor than a second one you pop the feedback pulse. Not saying a build like that is going to pop easy but your lack of dps would only be a threat to squishy or low level players (ie your not invulnerable).
Many a time ive seen someone kill themselves killing said player. That being said, I rarely die shooting Kax.
Controlled burst damage and sufficient self healing negates feedback pulse entirely.
Not to mention most of my chars can subnuke off said annoyance.
Its not the escort tac you need to watch out for, its the escort sci.
Even on an escort tac, if all else fails id zip off a few dozen KM, swap in an RSP, come back and just alpha rsp right into the damn feedback pulse and not give a damn, then GDF ram them to finish them, for the pure hilarity.
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So in terms of kerrat your a farmer. Trolling in context of kerrat means trying to one up the competition which usually leads to someone getting mad, at least that is the overwhelming majority of the posts in here.
Torp Boats LULz at FPB btw
You can Jam.. but what'cha gunna do when your stuck in Warp Pee + TBR + doff that don't need to target you? :P
Think about this:
American Football has been in open beta for 144 years. ~Kotaku
The game is up, your goals are clear. You were all about 1-hit KO gravity wells until I happened to mention counters to BFAW spam like FBP. That is no coincidence. You are the very definition of scrub, dismissing all tactics not used by yourself as 'OP and 'cheese', because all you care about is that 'I WIN' button(which, believe it or not, does not exist. period. There will always be a build/player combination that can stalemate or kill yours), not enjoying the game, and learning valid counters to the various things you call 'cheese'. I don't need a forum post to figure out counters, or to make a solid build. It would seem you do. Learn to play. While you are at it, grow a sense of sportsmanship. By definition, somebody has to lose in PVP. That does not mean you scream 'cheese' when it happens to you, that means you re-evaluate how to counter said 'cheese'.
That is counter-able, but as you seem to only learn such things when people tell you them outright, and due to your attitude and usage of such information, I'm no longer in a sharing mood.
I like how they say A2B and Integration circuit have no counters >_>
Target aux subsystem, tykens, general energy siphon drain builds, leech, viral matrix, blahblahblahblah
AMS, Scramble, reverse tbr and just drag them a mile away...
The black cloud is 100 percent counterable by a romulan with a single charge of singularity power (sing jump always jumps you completely out of it)
Doesnt even cover omega, damps, epte... etcetc
>_> Sometimes I wonder.
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wait, integration circuit is that romulan lockbox device right? man my engineer/escort just shrugs that off. i dont understand why people have so much trouble with it.
i'm convinced that the real issue with these builds is not that "oh they're unbeatable" its that they're unbeatable, with a TACTICAL. i've heard from several of these people that they dont even have an engineer/science.
as an engineer primarily (3 engies, 2 tacticals, 1 science) i find that the best counter characters is my engineer or science. built right i can counter 99% of the builds in this game. just means all those tactical characters out there need to figure out some team work for once and tag team with a debuff ship to circumvent well thought out builds.
a good PVP game should be a tactics war. more thought put into something the more powerful it is. that's true of most combat, its only logical STO is the same.
Doesn't matter. I know I can beat you. Talk like you know all, you don't. Do have to put you in your place too? I don't pretend to be good, I'm good. I've been battling in Kerrat for 3 years. If you think I need the forums to learn anything, you have be insane...
I hope you're not all talk. I'm a just bring it type person. You act like FBP is all I use. My ship also has something called weapons. I use those. I guess you forgot to factor that in. I use no cheese. In pvp it counts as a loss if I revive with a console. I'm sure you didn't know that. Looks like you need the forums more than I do...
I've already factored everything in. Only jem bug rom placate users stand a slight chance against me in my prime build. Personally I look down on pure cheese users. I'm not surprised you're defending what's destroying PVP. Typical...
This post... almost makes me want to start coming to Kerrat to find you.
Almost.
Youre used to killing scrub baddies in Kerrat whereas many of us are used to fighting full on premade teams loaded with some serious business tactics. Two different worlds really.
But I am pretty confident I could stomp you on about five of my characters, no bug required.
And another thing, I dont need cheese either. I am rather well known among my circle of friends as the cleanest player of us all. They had to twist my arm to get me to put together a five sci cheeseball and even then I felt dirty.
I dont think I am good either, I know I am. Been called out more times than I can count for my snark, and have never lost an epeen 1v1 challenge after someone got rolled in an arena.
If your post was directed at me, be real careful who you call out. Im just saying.
Fleet Admiral Rylana - Fed Tac - U.S.S Wild Card - Tactical Miracle Worker Cruiser
Lifetime Subscriber since 2012 == 17,200 Accolades = RIP PvP and Vice Squad
Chief of Starfleet Intelligence Service == Praise Cheesus
wait wait wait. wait. ..... wait.
did you just say..... you've been battling in kerrat for the past 3 years? ...... waaaaay back in the early days of kerrat, you know before F2P, i started farming kerrat as a daily pass time, and did so as a daily even up until season 7 when i started doing more PVE with my fleet to get them up to par.....
during that time i never heard of you. there's only two people that have been able to consistently beat me. a bugship, and the universe' best BOP. (wont use names as i dont know if that's allowed... dun think it is.) back in the day i used to fly around in kerrat without shields as a dare to other ships to engage me, and i rarely lost. i can remember in detail each fight i lost in. i'd remember you if you were one of the good ones. sorry, your not.
only thing that's destroyed PVP is bugships. plain. and. simple. nothing about that ship makes sense to be as good as it is. if you're gonna whine about PVP start there.
Also, as far as goes, I Don't take pleasure in the aggravation of others in general, just the ones that are getting aggravated about playing the game in general in the way that the area is designed.. Some examples:
"Stop killing me! I'm just trying to finish the mission!"
Or
"lol you can only kill me when your in a group." and possibly "lol you can only kill me when I'm being attacked by borg."
Those types of statements show that the person involved did not seem to realize they were in an Open PVP zone, or are already trying to troll and deserve to be trolled back.
Sorry if I'm a sad and petty individual in your eyes, but in my eyes I see my self as simply doing unto another as they would have done unto me. Especially if I'm on a Klingon surrounded by Feds and getting ganked. :cool:
Think about this:
American Football has been in open beta for 144 years. ~Kotaku
Continuing in the spirit of the thread, there have been times I fired a gravimetric torp spread at a running cloaker, who cloaks and then gets knocked right out again.
There has also been once or twice when I discovered an FBP/RSP user. All energy, so what could I do? Answer: Tractor and then drop a bunch of Voth spatial charges on him XD. Those things absolutely blow stuff apart if you can get them to hit. And some FBP users are a little overconfident, so they don't care about the tractor.....
Come to think of it, there was the time I used those on a sphere, followed by a singularity explosion popping into existence from the AOE damage