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  • johnnymo1johnnymo1 Member Posts: 697 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    The Jem'hidar bug ship is a real great ship, but its going to be very expensive.

    The Steamrunner class is a killer ship, it is essentially a more engineering geared Defiant class ship.

    The Fleet Defiant can potentially be the most devastating ship in the game. Geared up and run with as much into the speed and guns you have an incredible ship dealing out a ton of damage and the ability to out run and out gun most anything in the game.
  • kostamojenxkostamojenx Member Posts: 251 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    Gurumba Siege Destroyer is the best PVE Escort IMO

    On the fed side Andorian ships running Andorian fleet phasers with the 3-piece console set put out the most DPS, but are squishy as heck.
  • maliusnightmaliusnight Member Posts: 30 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    3 contenders on fed side

    Fleet Defiant- A solid ship, cloak, Solid damage, good maneuverability, has ok HP, very Fed.

    JHAS- Solid damage, Lots of health, great maneuverability, has superior set options.

    Andorian Kumari- Best damage of the set, with 5/2, good maneuverability, andorian phasers are cool and their fleet version is pretty solid, has the set consoles for those interested, weakness remains hp.
  • simeion1simeion1 Member Posts: 898 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    Wow, I loved reading this thread. But this is a real hard question to answer. So I will put my two cents in.

    1. Best escort in the game without spending any money in the zen store would have to be the Patrol Escort. It has three eng powers this allows you to run two copies of EPtS1 and A2Sif. Makes this ship tanky. It is good in PVE and PvP. Of course the fleet version is better.

    2. Best escort for NWS is the MVAE. This is because of the Lt commander science ability that will allow you to throw GW1. Other ships can be used but, for the average player this would be my recommendation.

    3. Now talking zen store ship you can not go wrong with the Kumari 3 pack. I personally lie the science version because you can run the same load out in the boff spots as the Patrol Escort. The 5/2 weapons slot makes it nasty also. With the science version you can run four field gens, or run the console that increases shield regen rate, name eludes me right now.

    4. The most fun in my opinion is the Defiant. Although I would love to see two things happen to it. I would love to see battle cloak. I have read all the pros and cons, but from a logical look how does the system different. You either have cloak or you don't. I would also love to see the ensign slot be universal. To get these bonuses I would give up a rear weapon and hull, this ship is small enough to be considered a raider. This extra tac slot is a hinderance in most of my builds never now what to do with the third ensign slot. I know a PvPer that runs a third tac team just in case of being SNB, he has one until the debuff rolls off.

    5. The most tanky of the Escorts has to be the Heavy Escort Carrier, Armitage. The pet spam can help in dps. I own it but I never fly it.

    Rare ships.

    6. The Mobius is the most versatile Escort in the game. It has two uni boff slots, one being a tl commander.

    7. The bug ship, you can not go wrong with it. It has higher shields, hull, and a awesome turn rate. Uni boff slots. There is no reason why this can't be the best escort in the game, although I do see where some other escorts might be better at doing a specific roll.
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  • imonfire3imonfire3 Member Posts: 7 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    There is absolutely no such thing as a "best" escort... There is a reason to have multiple escorts to match everyone's needs... My opinion. But my favourite would still have to be the defiant.
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  • kimmymkimmym Member Posts: 1,317 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    The only escort that held my attention used to be the MV/FAE.

    Once I got my Mobius... I may never fly another escort. I don't even want a JHAS anymore.

    Edit: A Mobius or a Chel Grett would be just about as good as a MV in NWS, the speed on a Beta Vector would be nice, the other 2 have a slightly better boff layout and are tankier.
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  • hyplhypl Member Posts: 3,719 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    Jem'Hadar Attack Ship is the best escort in the game blah blah blah yadda yadda yadda. :P
  • orangeitisorangeitis Member Posts: 5,222 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    marc8219 wrote: »
    Best spike damage escort is Fleet Dhelan and Fleet Hafeh, followed by fleet defiant.
    Most survivable escort is Fleet Mogai with the Valdore console.
    I couldn't care less about what the best escort is, I'm just still wondering why people think all tactical ships are escorts...
  • amincielbleuamincielbleu Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    Some nice necroposting going on... Such a thread becomes quickly obsolete, so it would be better to close this one down and to open a new one at the turn of each season.
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  • kimmymkimmym Member Posts: 1,317 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    Bloody hell, what is with all the necromancy recently?
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  • starswordcstarswordc Member Posts: 10,963 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    imonfire3 wrote: »
    There is absolutely no such thing as a "best" escort... There is a reason to have multiple escorts to match everyone's needs... My opinion. But my favourite would still have to be the defiant.

    *shoots imonfire3 in both feet for re-necroing a previously necroed thread*
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  • vetteguy904vetteguy904 Member Posts: 3,924 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    i would think it would depend on if youa re solo or on a team. if I knew i was flying with a Defiant-R I would ue the MVAM. nothing better than a grav well to group the probes together to suffer at the hand of a teammate decloaking for the alpha.
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  • rylanadionysisrylanadionysis Member Posts: 3,359 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    There is no best.

    If you are a good player you could fly a miranda and make it good.

    You could have a bug and be an utter failure with it as well.

    Read into that as much as you will.
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  • masterfiretrollmasterfiretroll Member Posts: 116 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    Hands down best escort for a ENG is Fleet Chimera
    A2B Boff layout +phaser lotus+Tachyon Inversion Beam.

    While in Regenerative Mode you feel like your in sci ship with multi-targeting

    while in Tactical Mode Accuracy bonus +more multi-targeting

    Add the right Boff's for AEO multi-targeting effects....

    Bug ship is obsolete.........
  • ursusmorologusursusmorologus Member Posts: 5,328 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    Fleet T'varo or possibly Dhelan, both are good for all professions, have battlecloak and singularity powers, no real shortcomings with either of them
  • nikephorusnikephorus Member Posts: 2,744 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    You could have a bug and be an utter failure with it as well.

    Ha ha ... this is true. I know a lot of people who have this ship and like all good ships they seemed to assume it would be an "I win" button and instead find themselves in re-spawn hell over and over again. Now with that said I have to say that it is arguably the best escort out there. Turn rate of a raider, 5 tac console slots for crazy damage, and two Lt Uni's for build flexibility.
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  • zeuxidemus001zeuxidemus001 Member Posts: 3,357 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    What is the bestest?!?!?!
  • starswordcstarswordc Member Posts: 10,963 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    *shoots vetteguy904 in both feet and a kneecap for re-necroing a thread that has been necroed twice already*

    *shoots rylanadionysis in both feet and both kneecaps*

    *shoots masterfiretroll in both feet, both kneecaps, and a kidney*

    *shoots ursusmorologus in all previously mentioned organs and both kidneys*

    *shoots nikephorus in all previously mentioned organs and an elbow*

    *shoots zeuxidemus001 in all previously mentioned organs and both elbows*

    *reloads* Anyone else?


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  • rylanadionysisrylanadionysis Member Posts: 3,359 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    starswordc wrote: »
    *shoots vetteguy904 in both feet and a kneecap for re-necroing a thread that has been necroed twice already*

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    *shoots ursusmorologus in all previously mentioned organs and both kidneys*

    *shoots nikephorus in all previously mentioned organs and an elbow*

    *shoots zeuxidemus001 in all previously mentioned organs and both elbows*

    *reloads* Anyone else?


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  • kublakhan81kublakhan81 Member Posts: 54 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    skitxx wrote: »
    or you can use the advanced escort with the mvam console and get just as good dmg as a tact escort (crf2 + thy 3 + apo 3 = yummysauce). I just wish the fleet version had the same boff layout instead of the ltcmdr sci.

    Are you kidding? The Lt. Cdr Science is what makes the ship so outrageously awesome.
  • starswordcstarswordc Member Posts: 10,963 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    Are you kidding? The Lt. Cdr Science is what makes the ship so outrageously awesome.

    *shoots kublakhan in all previously mentioned organs and an ear*
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  • grrgagrrga Member Posts: 17 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    I've been running escorts since I started this game way back when(season 1).. I prefer my defiant-r over the bug ship. Play style!!!
    *Side rant*
    What's the point on running an escort any more with almost every new ship being able to equip dual cannons now. Talk about breaking game balance. They need to reset the DPS power cap to pre-season 3?(I forget when they Nerfed it). It used to be you delt damage at your max power level now it's hard caped at 125, you still pull power form your max, but you don't do damage at that rating just at 125. They need to undo that, to give escorts back what they are currently taking form them, the desire to role one. Let's face it, with a RTS, E>PE, APD, APO and other evasive speed/turn buffs some of these dual cannon welding capital ships almost give a player no reason to role an escort any more.
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  • kostamojenxkostamojenx Member Posts: 251 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    I've changed my mind..

    The Tal Shiar Adapted Battlecruiser is the best escort in the game.
  • sct7772sct7772 Member Posts: 12 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    I kind of new to STO, I bought my first ship and love it.

    http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=244532

    is a good reference to build for escorts.

    What are your thoughts on the new T6 Phantom Intel Escort?
  • sjokruhlicasjokruhlica Member Posts: 434 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    I own most of the aforementioned ships. Here's my take on the subject. The JHAS is still the overall best escort in the game. There are other ships that do one thing better than the bug, but none have to "total package." For example, the Andorian escorts out DPS them, but don't turn as well, or have the survivability. The Defiant-R is great for alpha strikes, but if you don't kill your target in the initial attack you're screwed. The B'rel has decent alpha and an insane turn rate, but has no third rear weapon slot, and a weak hull. The patrol escort has excellent survivability, but less DPS and a slower turn rate. And Raptors? Meh, they're raptors, and STO will never fix them. The combination of DPS, agility, and survivability is what keeps the JHAS oh top.

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  • patrokoluspatrokolus Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    Try the Phantom or Xindi escort. Would be Interesting to know how they compare to the bug or Defiant.
  • aspartan1aspartan1 Member Posts: 1,054 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    I'm about as hardcore a tac player as one can be methinks. I have several tac toons and am now in the process of ultra specializing in different platforms for each one in each faction. For what it is worth I currently believe the following based on my experience since prerelease - YMMV:

    Box: JHAS
    UFP: Defiant (F)-R
    KDF: B'rel (F)-R
    RSE: Mogai* (F)-R

    With that said, my new most loved ship with a serious identity crisis is the Xindi-Aquatic Narcine Dreadnought Carrier! it is truly an escort at heart methinks. It is now my primary UFP tac toons principal ship. :D

    Note: I'm currently testing the Phantom. I've not really developed an opinion on it yet as I've been having far too much fun with the Narcine.

    * = Not really an escort but it is the best none boxed Romulan tac ship for lack of better words.
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  • christianmacchristianmac Member Posts: 359 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    I have the Phantom and to me it blows the defiant out of the water. I call it the next generation defiant. And the lance is awesome and I only had it miss once.....better damage THE THE GAL X.
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  • lordsteve1lordsteve1 Member Posts: 3,492 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    Phantom is seriously cool to fly. It absolutely ravages the mirror event NPCs :D.

    It's essentially an upgraded version of the defiant, it's what he Tactical Escort should have been (if you ignore the intel stuff).

    But seriously, use the gather intel ability on a boss ship, buff up your weapons and attack patterns and once you get the target vulnerable fire off the lance for some shield penetrating damage that can easily be into the 100-200K region. It's enough to knock a sizable chunk off many of the newer advanced NPCs even. Plus surgical strikes adds something serious to any crit builds you might think of making.

    Plus the build in cloak is a nice bonus, saves console space.

    Once this ships goes fleet level it'll no doubt get another eng. slot I'd imagine so that'll make it even tough if you want extra armour or give room for more uni stuff.
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