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Day and Night at Star Fleet Academy ?

delbert1967delbert1967 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
edited January 2014 in Federation Discussion
Hello All/Devs
Do not know if it has been asked before, but it would be nice to have day/night cycles at STA.
What do other's think ?
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  • floppytechiefloppytechie Member Posts: 136 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    They are designing a new SFA(read about it somewhere in FB).And i *think* it includes the day/night cycle for Risa.
    So there you go
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  • voporakvoporak Member Posts: 5,621 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    As it stands at the moment, in space San Francisco is always facing away from the sun, but on the ground at SFA, it's always day time.
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  • anazondaanazonda Member Posts: 8,399 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    Earths Global enviromental system ensures 24 hours daylight, to support peopel having longer workdays.

    ^^
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  • grouchyotakugrouchyotaku Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    voporak wrote: »
    As it stands at the moment, in space San Francisco is always facing away from the sun, but on the ground at SFA, it's always day time.

    And according to the Mini-Map, from SFA, you can look North across the Bay, to see San Fransisco... (But SF is on the southern end of the Golden Gate Bridge...)
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    edited December 2013
    floppytechie wrote: »
    They are designing a new SFA(read about it somewhere in FB).And i *think* it includes the day/night cycle for Risa.
    So there you go
    If you didn't see it here and have no proof (Facebook is not a credible source), odds are it's fake.

    I don't think I've heard anything about a new SFA.
  • davidwforddavidwford Member Posts: 1,836 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    voporak wrote: »
    As it stands at the moment, in space San Francisco is always facing away from the sun, but on the ground at SFA, it's always day time.

    I would very much like to see Earth rotate under ESD. And it would be nice if that was synchronized with Day/Night cycle at the Academy.
  • maxvitormaxvitor Member Posts: 2,213 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    It won't, ESD is in geosynchronous orbit so it will always be over the same part of the planet. to make all of that look realistic the starfield and Sun would have to revolve around the Earth. I think Tacofangs described why we couldn't have that.
    anazonda wrote: »
    Earths Global enviromental system ensures 24 hours daylight, to support peopel having longer workdays.

    ^^
    Not unless Earth is now run by the Ferengi.
    We know they can do planetary day night cycles, Bajor does it quite nicely.
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  • davidwforddavidwford Member Posts: 1,836 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    maxvitor wrote: »
    It won't, ESD is in geosynchronous orbit so it will always be over the same part of the planet.

    And where, pray tell, does it say that in canon? I can easily see some advantages in having it placed in super synchronous orbit.
  • ameristamerist Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    The idea of a revamped Academy that has night and day would be very nice. Especially if it could be used to produce different scripted events that had people come onto, or exit from, the grounds -- gather in the front rooms, move around as if they're going to classes, etc.
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  • alexveccialexvecci Member Posts: 119 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    davidwford wrote: »
    I would very much like to see Earth rotate under ESD. And it would be nice if that was synchronized with Day/Night cycle at the Academy.

    Earth used to rotate, but then it took a ESD update to the rotation.

    davidwford wrote: »
    And where, pray tell, does it say that in canon? I can easily see some advantages in having it placed in super synchronous orbit.

    Infact it doesn't.
  • rybrarianrybrarian Member Posts: 32 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    I agree that this would be a nice additional feature. I think Bajor already does this? Does Vulcan?

    Speaking of, there should be more planets in the game. For reals, I'm thinking about at once point making a Bajoran and Vulcan officer just so they can sometimes visit their homeworlds. Humans, Klingons, and Romulans (sort of) can do it, it's sad no one else can.

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  • ameristamerist Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    rybrarian wrote: »
    I agree that this would be a nice additional feature. I think Bajor already does this? Does Vulcan?

    Speaking of, there should be more planets in the game. For reals, I'm thinking about at once point making a Bajoran and Vulcan officer just so they can sometimes visit their homeworlds. Humans, Klingons, and Romulans (sort of) can do it, it's sad no one else can.

    Who wouldn't want to visit a rainy Fereginar?

    On the subject of other planets. A rotating skybox would be an amazing feature -- but I don't know how easily that can be implemented with the current game engine. Noting that certain planets will spin at different rates (some faster some slower) and have different star configurations--red stars, binary stars. It would make for very compelling environments.
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  • bradchristopher1bradchristopher1 Member Posts: 307
    edited January 2014
    davidwford wrote: »
    I would very much like to see Earth rotate under ESD. And it would be nice if that was synchronized with Day/Night cycle at the Academy.

    I know, if Romulus and Risa can rotate, why not Earth? come on it can't be 'that' hard. ;)
  • bradchristopher1bradchristopher1 Member Posts: 307
    edited January 2014
    maxvitor wrote: »
    It won't, ESD is in geosynchronous orbit so it will always be over the same part of the planet. to make all of that look realistic the starfield and Sun would have to revolve around the Earth. I think Tacofangs described why we couldn't have that.

    If it were 'always above the same part of the planet', we WOULD be getting day and night cycles", but as it is now, we are always over the same part, but the sun and moon don't rise and set....talk about coding inconsistencies with scientific fact! :eek:
  • bradchristopher1bradchristopher1 Member Posts: 307
    edited January 2014
    voporak wrote: »
    As it stands at the moment, in space San Francisco is always facing away from the sun, but on the ground at SFA, it's always day time.

    my arguement exactly!:P
  • alan171717alan171717 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    Perhaps all of STO takes place in one day :eek:
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  • elvnswordselvnswords Member Posts: 184 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    davidwford wrote: »
    And where, pray tell, does it say that in canon? I can easily see some advantages in having it placed in super synchronous orbit.

    http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Spacedock_%28Earth%29
  • bruno960bruno960 Member Posts: 38 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    Then I would venture that ESD is in too low an orbit for geosynchronous orbit as shown in STO.
  • oldkirkfanoldkirkfan Member Posts: 1,263 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    davidwford wrote: »
    And where, pray tell, does it say that in canon? I can easily see some advantages in having it placed in super synchronous orbit.

    http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Spacedock_(Earth))
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  • davidwforddavidwford Member Posts: 1,836 Arc User
    edited January 2014
    elvnswords wrote: »
    http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Spacedock_%28Earth%29
    oldkirkfan wrote: »
    http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Spacedock_(Earth))

    Without intending to make the fallacy "moving the goalposts" (or raising the bar), did that come from the movie script, something specified from a diagram on screen, or what?

    If it is simply inferred from visual shots, that doesn't mean anything. 15 seconds of screen time is not enough data to accurately project a basic Kepler orbit, let alone a more complex modeling of the orbit.

    While memory alpha tries to deal strictly with canon, it does add Apocrypha. The page doesn't specifically cite where it comes from. Again, if the idea that it is in geostationary orbit comes from the script, then that is practically irrefutable.
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