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Torpedo's - Shouldnt they be finite?
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If torpedos became finite on ones ship... can't you make them stronger without the cooldowns?
If your ship has a fixed number of torpedo's you can use before you restock at a starbase... cant we power up the torpedos and remove alot of the restrictions and cooldowns?
We saw in Undiscovered Country that we have torpedo stockpiles... and they had to take inventory to make sure all theirs were accounted for. So there must be something about them that can't be replicated.
You can shorten the cool down to 1 or 2 secs for all torpedos and a ship only needs 1 forward and 1 rear launcher... the other slots can be upgrades to torpedo capacity instead of beams or cannons if you want to build a torpedo boat.
If your ship has a fixed number of torpedo's you can use before you restock at a starbase... cant we power up the torpedos and remove alot of the restrictions and cooldowns?
We saw in Undiscovered Country that we have torpedo stockpiles... and they had to take inventory to make sure all theirs were accounted for. So there must be something about them that can't be replicated.
You can shorten the cool down to 1 or 2 secs for all torpedos and a ship only needs 1 forward and 1 rear launcher... the other slots can be upgrades to torpedo capacity instead of beams or cannons if you want to build a torpedo boat.
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It wouldn't be fun.
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a few things that need to be introduced to make this happen:
torp launcher to be on every ship as a slot like deflector or shields
energy weapons need to be significantly weaker against hull, so that torps make actually sense
range advantage over energy based weapons...i mean they already have an advantage against energy weapons, they have no range penalty, but what i mean is actually higher range.
I mean, in theory, you could replicate a starship, but the energy required would be Omega Partical level ridiculous.
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They already have. Energy Weapons are far more efficient. You do not have to worry about a sliver of shields coming up rendering most of your damage moot.
There are quite a number of builds now that put zero points into Projectiles and skipping Torps and Mines entirely, while maxing out everything Energy Weapon related, incl. the high end Crit Skillbox for it. And leftover points put into stuff to make your ship even better.
I still like Torps, but I do recognize that the sun has set on them long ago.
If limited torpedoes isn't fun, then how come the vast majority of Star Trek games made over the years have had limited torpedoes? :rolleyes:
You see, in those games and in canon, torpedoes are the weapons with the greatest destructive force in a ships arsenal.
They are infinitely more powerful than directed energy weapons and are the weapons of choice when intending to destroy targets.
The drawback however is that there is only a limited supply that can be carried onboard ships for a number of reasons.
They are also unsuitable for situations where surgical precision is required and can't be used reliably to disable an enemy ship without loss of life.
I honestly think all torpedoes should be limited in one way or another(per instance or with consumables), and that torpedoes should be allowed to hit for full damage against shields.
That may actually make them balanced and viable again.
Replicating a starship isn't the hard part.
AFAIK anti-matter is something that cannot be replicated by conventional means.
And its anti-matter that powers starships and is used for the warhead of torpedoes.
Rather than you standing back several hundred kilometers and watching as a gigantic mushroom cloud blossoms into space, the bombardment exhibits a far less impressive result than if similarly-sized bricks had been dropped from orbit. Yes, a brick dropped from orbit will produce a more impressive kaboom than that.
... Assuming the brick didn't burn up in the atmosphere.
A bit more on topic: I don't think that having torps be finite is what they need. What they need is to be ~100x stronger than they are in game, or make it so that as shields are weaker more damage bleeds through. The idea of a dedicated torp slot is also a nice idea.
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Actually yes it would. Increase torpedo damage to what's been seen in the shows and movies but only give us a few of them at a time, the larger the ship the more torpedoes it carries.
That's how it should have been all along.
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Seems to me that replicating explosives has to be pretty easy. Tech manual even says they use the same charge as a photon torpedo. We could argue whether or not the tech manual is necessarily canon, but I do think that does seem to have been their intention.
If they could do it that easily in the 24th century, then I could see them adapting the technology for all standard torpedo launchers by the 25th.
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