Next Fleet Holding (suggestion)

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• mynameisnom Member Posts: 639 Arc User

  November 2013 edited November 2013

  Whats the point. Mirror weapons? Opposite colors? :-D

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• orangeitis Member Posts: 5,222 Arc User

  November 2013 edited November 2013

  mynameisnom wrote: »

  Whats the point. Mirror weapons? Opposite colors? :-D

  Well all of the stuff I listed in the OP. Opposite colors, sure. Or were you talking about the fleet ships? They do have different console layouts and all. Mirror Advanced Escort. Mirror Star Scruiser. Mirror Vo'quv...
  
  Not sure how mirror weapons would work...

  
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• azurianstar Member Posts: 6,985 Arc User

  November 2013 edited November 2013

  Eh, I personally don't want to see any new Fleet holdings for a long time. Unless Cryptic starts helping small fleets and somehow help out Klingon Fleets since the PvE queue is dead.

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• a3001 Member Posts: 1,132 Arc User

  November 2013 edited November 2013

  orangeitis wrote: »

  Not Sure How Mirror Weapons Would Work...

  
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• zordar01 Member Posts: 318

  November 2013 edited November 2013

  Whatever the next fleet update is it should include a fleet sponsorship project that large fleets (T4+?) can complete to generate a token that reduces fleet project requirements of any one starbase/holding in perpetuity, with the amount of the discount dependent on fleet membership. The more members the fleet has the lower the discount, but no less than 5%, with the actual value changing as fleet membership changes.
  
  The sponsorship token should be able to be sold for marks, doffs, dilithium, etc., maybe in an additional tab in the dilithium exchange window.
  
  This would also be a good way for high-tier fleets to sell or trade shipyard access without people needing to leave/join fleets.

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• orangeitis Member Posts: 5,222 Arc User

  November 2013 edited November 2013

  ^ I think that smaller fleets should get some support first.
  
  Sure yet another holding is kinda the complete opposite of that, but I'm sure something could be done about it.

  
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• schneemann83 Member Posts: 0 Arc User

  November 2013 edited November 2013

  mynameisnom wrote: »

  Whats the point. Mirror weapons? Opposite colors? :-D

  
  Mirror Fleet Elite Phasers would obviously have the resistance debuff, while Elite Disruptors would have the shieldheal proc.

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• jetwtf Member Posts: 1,207

  November 2013 edited November 2013

  orangeitis wrote: »

  ^ I think that smaller fleets should get some support first.
  
  Sure yet another holding is kinda the complete opposite of that, but I'm sure something could be done about it.

  
  reduced costs of all fleet holdings across the board to what the embassy and starbase was when that was the only holdings. Basicly all holding at T0 with 4 holding and the starbase cost as much as the embassy and starbase. then as new holdings are added the costs to projects decrease to match.
  
  Make all Rep cost a single token for the 2k project and nothing else. double rep use the same single token for 4k. reduce the cost to stockpile tokens from marks everytime new rep is added.
  
  Next holding.. I dont care, just have good stuff to unlock making it worth the time and effort. but we are running short on items a holding can carry that will not make rep obsolete or a rep version making the holding obsolete. So i suggest hybrid weapons like phased polarons or whatever in a fleet version. Then hybrid consoles that have sci and engineering or engineering and tac.

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• shpoks Member Posts: 6,967 Arc User

  November 2013 edited November 2013

  Yeah, cause a whole universe clearly isn't enough to expand the game in. :rolleyes:
  Please don't give Cryptic anymore bad ideas.

  

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• orangeitis Member Posts: 5,222 Arc User

  November 2013 edited November 2013

  Editted the first post.

  
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• ceekayzero Member Posts: 411 Arc User

  November 2013 edited November 2013

  orangeitis wrote: »

  The mirror universe. We've not done much in it. The incursion to use to get skill points. A few episode missions here and there. A sector space encounter. That's about it. But why not a fleet holding?
  
  The fleet holding exclusive items are easy to do. Terran empire and Klingon/Cardassian alliance DOFFs. New mirror costume unlocks(cause let's face it, the only mirror costume parts available are Fed-only, and 200-300 years out-of-date). Hell, we could even get fleet-tier mirror ships.
  
  No idea where it would be located though, aside of course from in the mirror universe itself.
  
  What does everyone else think?

  
  I'm down with this, so long as we get a Mirror Tor'khat. This way, I can finally have the AKS tu'Bat.

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• hypl Member Posts: 3,719 Arc User

  November 2013 edited November 2013

  I'd rather see something like a colony or trading post that utilizes GPL more as a currency. Introduce more ways to obtain and spend GPL. Maybe even dive a bit into the black markets of the galaxy for more unique items, particulalry space and ground devices. :P

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• ddesjardins Member Posts: 3,056 Media Corps

  November 2013 edited November 2013

  Yeesh - bad ideas.
  
  Mirror Fleet ships - yes IF they are only available to fleet members. The whole value of fleet ships is that they are hard to get, and have to be worked for.
  
  Fleet Sponsorship Tokens - hell no. Working to build your fleet takes effort. Giving smaller fleets a pass isnt' fair to those of us who've worked HARD to achieve them.
  
  How about:
  

  1. Personal Fleet Holdings: Apartments, storage facilities (bank extensions), more trading slots on the exchange.
  2. Kit Manufacturer: Customs kits, 5 slots
  3. Weapons Research Lab: Customize existing weapons, 10% increase, color and effect control
  4. FM Converter: Convert fleet marks to credits at a reduced rate

  
  My two bits

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• tancrediiv Member Posts: 728 Arc User

  November 2013 edited November 2013

  The next fleet holding should be The Mudd Consortium Unclaimed Lockbox Emporium.
  
  Millions of unopened lock boxes exist in the galaxy. Completion of this fleet project opens access all those amazing ships, packs, doffs, consumables, holo novels, Tal Shiar codes, doff packs, Tuffli's, D'Kora's, Suliban Cell ships, Jem Bug ships, etc you can no longer get and we only have to buy in and buy them.

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• rosetyler51 Member Posts: 1,631 Arc User

  November 2013 edited November 2013

  I can't find it but I made a thread about kind of the same thing. Klingon/Cardassian alliance mini faction with a MU outpost as the next holding.
  
  I like the idea

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• leviathan99

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  November 2013 edited November 2013

  What if instead of being a construction project, it was an infiltration holding.
  
  You beam to the MU version of your Fleet Starbase and, through projects, slowly take control.

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• xiaoping88 Member Posts: 1,493 Arc User

  November 2013 edited November 2013

  From a "lore" perspective, I don't like the idea.
  Don't get me wrong. Mirror Universe is fun and I would like the storyline to be expanded - but let's face it: if we get a Mirror Universe Fleet Holding, we will get a Mirror Universe Season, too.
  And that means that we don't get something else - and there are many things more important at this point then the Mirror Universe.
  
  Actually, I am already a bit afraid of our coming excursion to the Delta Quadrant.
  The known space it at all out war at how many fronts now? 9? 10? I lost count.
  Now we are randomly expanding into a Dyson Sphere (a construct which equals all worlds of the Federation, Romulans and Klingons combined... and then multiplied a few hundred thousand times. It's really that big.
  Okay, okay, Omega. I got that.
  But... seriously, the Federation, Klingons and Romulans are stretched thin to no end.
  Next comes the DQ proper... and then we should expand military operations into a different universe??
  
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  I just made my peace with the dinosaurs... but hell... it's only going that far.

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• elemberq333 Member Posts: 430 Arc User

  November 2013 edited November 2013

  I would much rather that they brought in a liberated Borg faction with the story behind the TNG episode that introduced Hugh. And possibly if they could manage it get Jeri Ryan to do some VO and bring her character Seven of Nine to STO. That would be far more awesome...

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• thegalaxy31 Member Posts: 1,211 Arc User

  November 2013 edited November 2013

  Even I'm getting tired of fleet holdings, Cryptic, please no more fleet holdings until Season 9/Legacy Of <Insert Faction Name (IF they add another faction, which I think is coming in "Season 10" IF they add another faction, basically LOR 2.0 and probably the whole half-faction thing going on.)

  I would love to visit this star in-game...or maybe this one!
  

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• orangeitis Member Posts: 5,222 Arc User

  November 2013 edited November 2013

  elemberq333 wrote: »

  I would much rather that they brought in a liberated Borg faction with the story behind the TNG episode that introduced Hugh. And possibly if they could manage it get Jeri Ryan to do some VO and bring her character Seven of Nine to STO. That would be far more awesome...

  But liberated Borg aren't allied together, they rejoin their original faction after leaving the collective.

  
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• rinkster Member Posts: 3,549 Arc User

  November 2013 edited November 2013

  orangeitis wrote: »

  The mirror universe. We've not done much in it. The incursion to use to get skill points. A few episode missions here and there. A sector space encounter. That's about it. But why not a fleet holding?
  
  The fleet holding exclusive items are easy to do. Terran empire and Klingon/Cardassian alliance DOFFs. New mirror costume unlocks(cause let's face it, the only mirror costume parts available are Fed-only, and 200-300 years out-of-date). Hell, we could even get fleet-tier mirror ships.
  
  No idea where it would be located though, aside of course from in the mirror universe itself.
  

  
  Well, as for location, i think there's a no-brainer ingame.
  
  The Aenigma Nebula.
  
  We already know its temporally loose, as it were. Why not dimensionally loose too?
  
  Have a rift open up in the space map of the nebula that acts as a portal between the two universes.
  
  Obviously a joint task force of sorts will sit on that rift, possibly setting up an additional sentry station to watch over things and respond if necessary.
  
  The current Aenigma station can be off limits to all except veterans, just let the space map be open.
  
  The fleet holding can be a module on the sentry station.
  
  As for the fleet holding rewards, I agree with things like MU constume unlocks but think ships may be a bit op.
  
  Perhaps open up a fleet holding store with access to the whole range of current MU ships maybe.
  
  Where I'd like to see this holding focus is on devices and batteries, rather than consoles, ships or weapons.
  
  There's a clear dearth of devices in the game. There are a few, but they're rare.
  
  Batteries are ubiquitous and come in many flavours.
  
  Thing about an MU holding is that they are, in many ways, the same as us. Tech, as such, wont be that different.
  
  However, a difference in philosophical approach could mean a greater use of devices and a different approach to batteries.
  
  What if batteries didnt boost power to a system, instead boosting a specific set of skills?
  
  Seems to me the MU is an ideal place to expand some of the lesser relied upon game mechanisms.

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• flash525 Member Posts: 5,441 Arc User

  November 2013 edited November 2013

  I don't really want to see any more fleet holdings. I think we've got enough of a grind as it is. Why the hell would any of us want more? Very few fleets have maxed out as it is. As per your Terran Empire Ships:
  

  orangeitis wrote: »

  Fleet Mirror Patrol Escort
  BOFF Stations: Ensign Tactical, Lieutenant Tactical, Commander Tactical, Lieutenant Commander Engineering, Lieutenant Science
  
  Fleet Mirror Advanced Escort
  BOFF Stations: Lieutenant Commander Tactical, Commander Tactical, Lieutenant Engineering, Lieutenant Science, Ensign Universal
  
  Fleet Mirror Star Cruiser
  BOFF Stations: Lieutenant Engineering, Commander Engineering, Ensign Science, Lieutenant Commander Science, Lieutenant Universal
  
  Fleet Mirror Assault Cruiser
  BOFF Stations: Ensign Tactical, Lieutenant Tactical, Lieutenant Commander Engineering, Commander Engineering, Lieutenant Science
  
  Fleet Mirror Reconnaissance Science Vessel
  BOFF Stations: Ensign Tactical, Lieutenant Tactical, Lieutenant Engineering, Lieutenant Commander Science, Commander Science
  
  Fleet Mirror Deep Space Science Vessel
  BOFF Stations: Lieutenant Tactical, Ensign Engineering, Lieutenant Engineering, Lieutenant Commander Science, Commander Science

  These would need to all be different from the start. It still amazes me that there is virtually no difference with a standard Star Cruiser and a Fleet Star Cruiser (yet there is with an Assault Cruiser). The Fleet Star Cruiser should come with a Lt. Cmd Science and an Ensign Science (reflecting that of the Assault Cruiser).
  
  Edit: Ignore the above. I didn't read your Star Cruiser correctly.

  

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• orangeitis Member Posts: 5,222 Arc User

  December 2013 edited December 2013

  Added fleet mirror KDF and Rom ships to the OP~
  
  Edit: @ darthmeow504: the mirror Adv escort is like the prime universe patrol escort and vice-versa. That's why I didn't include the 5 tac consoles. Aside from one console, I think the prime universe Fleet Patrol Escort has what you're looking for.

  
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• rylanadionysis Member Posts: 3,359 Arc User

  December 2013 edited December 2013

  ceekayzero wrote: »

  I'm down with this, so long as we get a Mirror Tor'khat. This way, I can finally have the AKS tu'Bat.

  
  LOL i see what you did there

  
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• orangeitis Member Posts: 5,222 Arc User

  December 2013 edited December 2013

  ...I don't get it.

  
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• willdaviesalpha1 Member Posts: 17 Arc User

  December 2013 edited December 2013

  Say it out loud, oks-too-bat.
  Get it?

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• lincolninspace Member Posts: 1,843 Arc User

  December 2013 edited December 2013

  Risian resort holding with customizable party condos!

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• lincolninspace Member Posts: 1,843 Arc User

  December 2013 edited December 2013

  orangeitis wrote: »

  But liberated Borg aren't allied together, they rejoin their original faction after leaving the collective.

  
  There was a VOY episode where they created their own mini collective yet retained their individuality.

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