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Elachi Cluster Torpedo

mwhitakermwhitaker Member Posts: 131 Arc User
edited November 2013 in Star Trek Online General Discussion
Yeeeaaaahhh...if we could just find out why we don't get access to this weapon that'd be great...but really though. Why do players not get access to the Elachi Cluster Torp? It's basically the cloaking tractor mines stuck inside the breen transphasic cluster torp tube. It's not any kind of wunderwaffe but it would still be fun to have, especially to use against pesky nanite spheres and assimilated raptors.
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  • no09dysonsphereno09dysonsphere Member Posts: 410 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    Because the devs hate torpedoes and blatantly favor energy weapons. See also: transphasic chronitons.
  • mwhitakermwhitaker Member Posts: 131 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    Y Ferengi? Y U no meet demands 4 supply?
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  • centersolacecentersolace Member Posts: 11,178 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    no09dysonsphere wrote: »
    Because the devs hate torpedoes and blatantly favor energy weapons. See also: transphasic chronitons.

    RIP Tricobalts. :'(
  • capnshadow27capnshadow27 Member Posts: 1,731 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    centersolace wrote: »
    RIP Tricobalts. :'(

    Triwhatnows? I havent seen those things used in AGES
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  • mwhitakermwhitaker Member Posts: 131 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    I miss the days of flying up to a cube in my Chel Grett, melting it's shields off, and Dispersal Pattern Beta 3 Tricobalt poofing the thing away
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  • centersolacecentersolace Member Posts: 11,178 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    capnshadow27 wrote: »
    Triwhatnows? I havent seen those things used in AGES
    mwhitaker wrote: »
    I miss the days of flying up to a cube in my Chel Grett, melting it's shields off, and Dispersal Pattern Beta 3 Tricobalt poofing the thing away

    RIP. They're in a better place now. ;_;
  • capnshadow27capnshadow27 Member Posts: 1,731 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    centersolace wrote: »
    RIP. They're in a better place now. ;_;

    The Vendor Trash is NOT a better place silly.

    But really its sad the only thing i have anymore that deals Kinetic damage is the Kinetic Cutting Beam.... Cause torps are just useless.
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  • centersolacecentersolace Member Posts: 11,178 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    capnshadow27 wrote: »
    The Vendor Trash is NOT a better place silly.

    Don't ruin my dreams. :'(
    capnshadow27 wrote: »
    But really its sad the only thing i have anymore that deals Kinetic damage is the Kinetic Cutting Beam.... Cause torps are just useless.

    The borg torp is still useful. Great for finishing off large clusters of enemies. But yeah, other than that I can't think of a torpedo really worth equipping. :(
  • mwhitakermwhitaker Member Posts: 131 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    Are torpedoes really that bad to you guys? I use them on every build, with the fabulous TS3. If they ARE that bad then I could be getting seriously more power but mounting more DEM weapons and swapping THY and TS for attack patterns.
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  • dahminusdahminus Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    Torpedos are neglected where tactical consoles are concerned. Unless your making an exclusive torpedo boat.

    They are great for burst but terrible for sustained...thus avoided by players that seek optimized energy builds
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  • erraberrab Member Posts: 1,434 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    This is a bad Thread from me, especially when you consider the fact that I just setup my newest level 50 KDF Science alt to run a stealth bomber build with the B'rel Retrofit :eek:

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  • centersolacecentersolace Member Posts: 11,178 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    dahminus wrote: »
    Torpedos are neglected where tactical consoles are concerned. Unless your making an exclusive torpedo boat.

    They are great for burst but terrible for sustained...thus avoided by players that seek optimized energy builds

    Yup. Equiping torp consoles kind of gimps your overall dmg output.
  • cmdrscarletcmdrscarlet Member Posts: 5,137 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    centersolace wrote: »
    The borg torp is still useful. Great for finishing off large clusters of enemies. But yeah, other than that I can't think of a torpedo really worth equipping. :(

    Why use torpedoes when you can use MISSILES!!!!11one
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  • centersolacecentersolace Member Posts: 11,178 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    cmdrscarlet wrote: »
    Why use torpedoes when you can use MISSILES!!!!11one

    Because they're 200 lobi.
  • erraberrab Member Posts: 1,434 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    centersolace wrote: »
    Because they're 200 lobi.

    If you have been doing the 15 free Lobi for replaying the older FE they can be yours fo the low low price of Freeeeeeeeeee :D
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  • centersolacecentersolace Member Posts: 11,178 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    errab wrote: »
    If you have been doing the 15 free Lobi for replaying the older FE they can be yours fo the low low price of Freeeeeeeeeee :D

    We're getting there. ;)
  • somebobsomebob Member Posts: 556 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    cmdrscarlet wrote: »
    Why use torpedoes when you can use MISSILES!!!!11one

    Honest question - are they decent enough torpedo type weapons? Or is it the joke weapon like it looks like it is?
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  • nathraelnathrael Member Posts: 264 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    The Elachi subspace torp as is is not bad. I run the full Silent enemy set on my main's S'Golth so kind of have to use it, but it's not bad at all. The 2 DHC's and the heavy cannon (Sometime with an axial blast tossed in) bring down shields, then I spread the subspace and do some decent wrecking.

    As far as other decent torps, Romulan Hyperplasma is very good, and an odd one is the Temporal Disruption device. I have this rear mounted on an Orb Weaver, and it either works as fire diversion, or hits for some rather decent damage. I just use high yield and don't bother with torp consoles. (I do get the Temporal Warfare set bonus though.) For the rest on the Orb I run all AP and the Obelisk tech set. Gets a good level of damage to back up the sci abilities.

    These are probably the top 3 torps, but have yet to try out Omega Plasma or the new Gravimetric Photon.
  • mwhitakermwhitaker Member Posts: 131 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    They're meh-ish. Fun if mixed with an array of equally trollish projectile menaces. They fit the vibe of the Adapted Battle Cruiser well, with the shrapnel rockets and all. Nothing like throwing every unique projectile on all at once--Breen clustorp, tractor mines, web mines, omega torp, rommie torp, bio-neural, bio-molecular, new gravimetric...good times
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  • centersolacecentersolace Member Posts: 11,178 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    mwhitaker wrote: »
    They're meh-ish. Fun if mixed with an array of equally trollish projectile menaces. They fit the vibe of the Adapted Battle Cruiser well, with the shrapnel rockets and all. Nothing like throwing every unique projectile on all at once--Breen clustorp, tractor mines, web mines, omega torp, rommie torp, bio-neural, bio-molecular, new gravimetric...good times

    Too bad Skittleboats are more or less a thing of the past.
  • no09dysonsphereno09dysonsphere Member Posts: 410 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    Oh dear what have I started. But in all seriousness I use plasma torps mixed with gravity well - it's fun yet competitive - and I don't even have the best consoles yet. The best part is the consoles cost me nothing whereas serious energy consoles, even mediocre ones, cost more than any other gear.

    Now back to your regularly scheduled topic - please add elachi cluster torps and transphasic chronitons to the lobi store, I wanna actually spend my lobi from the event...
  • mwhitakermwhitaker Member Posts: 131 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    Have I got the thing for all of you. This is a concept torp, obviously something I would hope would never be added to the game, God forbid the ensuing cataclysm were it to be added...I give you, The Terrorpedo: based on Breen clustorp, fires projectile that splits into 10 nodes, each of which (like the rommie torp) launches 3 (like the omega torp) heavy plasma energy bolts?on impact, each bolt slows enemies like the temporal disruption device, causes a subspace disable effect like the elachi torp, has a chance for a subspace rift aftershock (like tricobalts), and has 20% bonus shield pen. Powercreep of the century right here.
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  • no09dysonsphereno09dysonsphere Member Posts: 410 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    mwhitaker wrote: »
    Have I got the thing for all of you. This is a concept torp, obviously something I would hope would never be added to the game, God forbid the ensuing cataclysm were it to be added...I give you, The Terrorpedo: based on Breen clustorp, fires projectile that splits into 10 nodes, each of which (like the rommie torp) launches 3 (like the omega torp) heavy plasma energy bolts?on impact, each bolt slows enemies like the temporal disruption device, causes a subspace disable effect like the elachi torp, has a chance for a subspace rift aftershock (like tricobalts), and has 20% bonus shield pen. Powercreep of the century right here.

    But then we realize it only fires once every 30 minutes :D
  • centersolacecentersolace Member Posts: 11,178 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    mwhitaker wrote: »
    Have I got the thing for all of you. This is a concept torp, obviously something I would hope would never be added to the game, God forbid the ensuing cataclysm were it to be added...I give you, The Terrorpedo: based on Breen clustorp, fires projectile that splits into 10 nodes, each of which (like the rommie torp) launches 3 (like the omega torp) heavy plasma energy bolts?on impact, each bolt slows enemies like the temporal disruption device, causes a subspace disable effect like the elachi torp, has a chance for a subspace rift aftershock (like tricobalts), and has 20% bonus shield pen. Powercreep of the century right here.

    Maybe if a boss had it.
    sopwithsnipe wrote: »
    I want a Genesis Torpedo.

    When it hits an enemy ship it turns them into a mini planet full of slug monsters.

    Fixed for you.
  • sgtstarfallsgtstarfall Member Posts: 205 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    somebob wrote: »
    Honest question - are they decent enough torpedo type weapons? Or is it the joke weapon like it looks like it is?

    I ran a full and serious transphasic torpedo JHEC boat once in both PvE elite and PvP. I was surprised to find out that the build was incredibly effective and offered both good sustained and burst damage. With 2 torpedo DOffs, I was able to keep the breen cluster torpedo at maximum cooldown (15s). Because I was constantly firing torpedoes, I was able to utilize the breen cluster's burst effectively and consistently. At a point, I was also spamming the Photon Gravimetric torpedo as well.

    With the above in mind, I've never used the Rapid fire missile. However, assuming that it has a chance to proc the torpedo cooldown, I could use it alone to lower cooldowns of all my other torpedoes instead of chaining 3 others.
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  • sgtstarfallsgtstarfall Member Posts: 205 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    mwhitaker wrote: »
    Have I got the thing for all of you. This is a concept torp, obviously something I would hope would never be added to the game, God forbid the ensuing cataclysm were it to be added...I give you, The Terrorpedo: based on Breen clustorp, fires projectile that splits into 10 nodes, each of which (like the rommie torp) launches 3 (like the omega torp) heavy plasma energy bolts?on impact, each bolt slows enemies like the temporal disruption device, causes a subspace disable effect like the elachi torp, has a chance for a subspace rift aftershock (like tricobalts), and has 20% bonus shield pen. Powercreep of the century right here.
    no09dysonsphere wrote: »
    But then we realize it only fires once every 30 minutes :D

    Torpedo DOffs + Rapid Fire Missiles...nuff said. :rolleyes:
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  • mwhitakermwhitaker Member Posts: 131 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    What's the firerate of missiles. Do they benefit from doffs and bridge officer abilities?
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  • asimosaasimosa Member Posts: 58 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    mwhitaker wrote: »
    What's the firerate of missiles. Do they benefit from doffs and bridge officer abilities?
    The Ferengi missile launcher fires every 2 seconds (yeah, really) and it does work with High Yield and Spread. Sadly it doesn't really take good advantage of either due to the low damage per shot. It is however a 180-degree arc rather than a 90-degree one, so you can broadside with it in a cruiser if you're so inclined.

    I still recommend against grabbing it unless you like spamming little missiles though. Even if Torp Spread 3 looks hilarious.
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  • cmdrscarletcmdrscarlet Member Posts: 5,137 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    I post up the RFML because ... c'mon, MISSILES. Auto-fire that and it's literally fire-and-forget. Its DPS is not bad and some Torpedoes are definitely better. But as fast as it shoots coupled with its wide AoF, you'll not have to worry about lining up a shot or missing an opportunity due to the swirl of combat.

    AND ... you don't have to work the Rep system for it.
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