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Senseless Voth Deaths: Gozer would be disappointed

gypsyinspacegypsyinspace Member Posts: 76 Arc User
edited November 2013 in Star Trek Online General Discussion
This season is TOO EASY. I'm geared like cr*p and can still do tons of damage on elites. Who the heck decided that Voth should be a pushover race when they were CLEARLY superior in Voyager.

What a disaster.
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  • comtedeloach2comtedeloach2 Member Posts: 499 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    This isnt Voyager. Its been what, 50 years or so since Voyager met the Voth, and the Fed have been at war for a long time since then. they Voth might be powerful but not nearly as much so now....
  • trek21trek21 Member Posts: 2,246 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    comtedeloach2 wrote: »
    This isnt Voyager. Its been what, 50 years or so since Voyager met the Voth, and the Fed have been at war for a long time since then. they Voth might be powerful but not nearly as much so now....
    The Federation (and KDf and Romulans) have improved in 50 years.

    The Voth's main doctrine is that growth and change = *buzzer*

    I'm not entirely surprised :D
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  • gypsyinspacegypsyinspace Member Posts: 76 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    I guess we have transwarp advances on every ship now. But that's about it.

    It's more so that ships are incredibly easy to kill. They have like no shields or armor.

    Gozer is crying now
  • talonxvtalonxv Member Posts: 4,257 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    gypsyinspace wrote: »
    I guess we have transwarp advances on every ship now. But that's about it.

    It's more so that ships are incredibly easy to kill. They have like no shields or armor.

    Gozer is crying now
    Starfleet has been fighting how many wars for the last century. Either you get better or you die. Darwinism.

    What's been pushing the Voth for the last century? Not a whole hell of a lot.
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  • gypsyinspacegypsyinspace Member Posts: 76 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    How do we know who has been pushing the Voth? They haven't been developed in any medium since Voyager.
  • trek21trek21 Member Posts: 2,246 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    gypsyinspace wrote: »
    How do we know who has been pushing the Voth? They haven't been developed in any medium since Voyager.
    We don't and they haven't, but the Season has literally just began, and the story can easily be expanded

    But considering how easily the Iconians are controlling the Elachi and Tal Shiar, they could be influencing the Voth too for control of the Dyson Sphere
    Was named Trek17.

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  • macroniusmacronius Member Posts: 2,526
    edited November 2013
    Considering the Voth pushed one button and disabled voyager ... I would say they are still far beyond the Feds. On top of that they can harness Omega which even the Borg can't do, please don't bring logic into Cryptic's games.
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  • ursusmorologusursusmorologus Member Posts: 5,328 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    Their fascination with raising dinosaur species that disprove their own doctrine probably did them in
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  • methos71methos71 Member Posts: 336 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    macronius wrote: »
    Considering the Voth pushed one button and disabled voyager ... I would say they are still far beyond the Feds. On top of that they can harness Omega which even the Borg can't do, please don't bring logic into Cryptic's games.
    I usually abhor using internet colloquialisms but...THIS.:P

    I was absolutely fascinated with the prospect of The Voth, when they were introduced on 'Voyager', but they ended up being a one-hit wonder, whilst The Borg basically became the big-bad throughout that show. Not Species 8472. Not The Voth. Yet, The Borg...the we're kinda menacing zombies who will make you one of us faction. Snooooooze man.

    That said, there's a whole lot of potential to be had with The Voth methinks. And I hope Cryptic steps up and delivers where some Borg-obsessed showrunner (yes, you know the one) clearly did not deliver.
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  • macroniusmacronius Member Posts: 2,526
    edited November 2013
    The STO Tag should be

    "To seek out new life and civilization and boldly destroy it ... Going where all p2w MMOs have gone before."
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  • bitemepwebitemepwe Member Posts: 6,760 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    I guess Gozer should have stayed, huh?
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  • blassreiterusblassreiterus Member Posts: 1,294 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    gypsyinspace wrote: »
    I guess we have transwarp advances on every ship now. But that's about it.

    It's more so that ships are incredibly easy to kill. They have like no shields or armor.

    Gozer is crying now
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  • aceseacese Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    macronius wrote: »
    Considering the Voth pushed one button and disabled voyager ... I would say they are still far beyond the Feds. On top of that they can harness Omega which even the Borg can't do, please don't bring logic into Cryptic's games.

    I believe the point of this season is that they are stealing Omega in an attempt to learn its secrets so that they can, not that they can already - but as there is so little story this time around maybe I missed that.

    As for the borg, if I recall their nano technology is powered by it - somehow they can't replicate that(?). Perhaps something intentional by their creators, who are believed to be the first to discover and use Omega long long ago.
  • iconiansiconians Member Posts: 6,987 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    bitemepwe wrote: »
    I guess Gozer should have stayed, huh?

    The same Gozer who arrogantly told us that he knew what we wanted better than we did?

    The same Gozer who had to redo his own work over and over again instead of creating new content?

    The same Gozer who implemented the Prototype Borg Tech drop system and repeatedly told us that the drop rates would stay the same and we should just get over it and grind out 160 STFs from each ground and space STF to get a Mk XII set for a character?

    The same Gozer who was supposedly working on the PvP aspect of the game and said he was going to implement this and that and nothing ever came of it?

    The same Gozer who swore up and down that the STFs were working "as intended", when everyone who ran them knew they had major game-breaking bugs in them?

    The same Gozer who took a page from TOR and implemented the Elite STF respawn timer penalty when we all knew (and told him) that there were invisible torpedos that could one-shot a person whether they could defend against them or not? Then went through with it anyway?

    I'm sorry, but no. Don't get me wrong, the Voth being too easy is a perfectly valid form of criticism. But let's not forget that Gozer was extremely unpopular due to his arrogance in thinking he knew our desires better than we did and more or less told us to get over it.
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  • neoakiraiineoakiraii Member Posts: 7,468 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    Oh, we're talking about that Gozer "sigh"


    Thought I was getting a marshmallow man non combat pet :(
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  • macroniusmacronius Member Posts: 2,526
    edited November 2013
    I feel like you are describing just about every dev at Cryptic, most especially the dark lord ... Geko..
    iconians wrote: »
    The same Gozer who arrogantly told us that he knew what we wanted better than we did?

    The same Gozer who had to redo his own work over and over again instead of creating new content?

    The same Gozer who implemented the Prototype Borg Tech drop system and repeatedly told us that the drop rates would stay the same and we should just get over it and grind out 160 STFs from each ground and space STF to get a Mk XII set for a character?

    The same Gozer who was supposedly working on the PvP aspect of the game and said he was going to implement this and that and nothing ever came of it?

    The same Gozer who swore up and down that the STFs were working "as intended", when everyone who ran them knew they had major game-breaking bugs in them?

    The same Gozer who took a page from TOR and implemented the Elite STF respawn timer penalty when we all knew (and told him) that there were invisible torpedos that could one-shot a person whether they could defend against them or not? Then went through with it anyway?

    I'm sorry, but no. Don't get me wrong, the Voth being too easy is a perfectly valid form of criticism. But let's not forget that Gozer was extremely unpopular due to his arrogance in thinking he knew our desires better than we did and more or less told us to get over it.
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  • iconiansiconians Member Posts: 6,987 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    macronius wrote: »
    I feel like you are describing just about every dev at Cryptic, most especially the dark lord ... Geko..

    In some ways, sure? But Geko isn't anywhere near the level Gozer was in terms of arrogance and giving us a big FU because he thought he was incapable of being anything other than perfect in terms of game design.

    When established history shows he wasn't. He wasn't entirely bad, but I'm not sure where this worshipping of Gozer comes from considering many of us wanted his head on a pike for snubbing us over the Mk XII sets.
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  • ruminate00ruminate00 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    Cryptic's portrayal of the Voth just feels wrong from all angles. Cryptic could rename them into something else, and no one would bat an eye.

    I would've prefered a Voth Civil War where the Alpha Quadrant is their battleground and you're simply caught in the middle. Either the Feds, Klingons, and Romulans help the Voth Seperatists, or perish under the Voth Puritans due to the huge disparity in technology.
  • bitemepwebitemepwe Member Posts: 6,760 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    Yes, the same Gozer that the OP feels would be disapointed. Not the one from the Tobin spirit guide.
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  • sparhawksparhawk Member Posts: 796 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    iconians wrote: »
    The same Gozer who arrogantly told us that he knew what we wanted better than we did?

    The same Gozer who had to redo his own work over and over again instead of creating new content?

    The same Gozer who implemented the Prototype Borg Tech drop system and repeatedly told us that the drop rates would stay the same and we should just get over it and grind out 160 STFs from each ground and space STF to get a Mk XII set for a character?

    The same Gozer who was supposedly working on the PvP aspect of the game and said he was going to implement this and that and nothing ever came of it?

    The same Gozer who swore up and down that the STFs were working "as intended", when everyone who ran them knew they had major game-breaking bugs in them?

    The same Gozer who took a page from TOR and implemented the Elite STF respawn timer penalty when we all knew (and told him) that there were invisible torpedos that could one-shot a person whether they could defend against them or not? Then went through with it anyway?

    I'm sorry, but no. Don't get me wrong, the Voth being too easy is a perfectly valid form of criticism. But let's not forget that Gozer was extremely unpopular due to his arrogance in thinking he knew our desires better than we did and more or less told us to get over it.

    This right here.
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