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So the Voth are supposed to be tough, I get that.

foundrelicfoundrelic Member Posts: 1,380 Arc User
edited November 2013 in Star Trek Online General Discussion
THey have ludicrous defensive capabilities, fine.



But the bigger ships... their shields don't move.


Not even a wiggle as you absolutely WAIL on them.


Even as the ship explodes the shields remain intact until the ship actually pops.



Now, I know they're supposed to be "Tough nuts to crack" but I don't think their shields are supposed to be impossible to drop.
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  • macroniusmacronius Member Posts: 2,526
    edited November 2013
    Who are cares? They move like molasses and are easy to melt with CRF, DEM and Elachi Crescent disruptors from exchange. The most epic faceroll in the history of STO which completly shocked me. I was expecting a redux of CC event.
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  • kyeto13kyeto13 Member Posts: 3 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    I had no problem whatsoever. The Dreadnaughts are suppose to be attacked by multiple players at once. Have a good team focus on one shield facing and it drops.

    You also have to watch out for it invincibility matrix. When that is active, it is invincibility. So change targets and leave it alone until it drops.
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  • azurianstarazurianstar Member Posts: 6,985 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    They were weak on Tribble, but now they are just WAY OP.


    The Swarmers AP, the Voth Gravity Well that takes 1/2 of your life in 1 second. The Voth Gravition Torpedoes that 1-shot you. Honestly, I'm getting tired of STO with this nonsense. So tired of 1-shot deaths without a good reason.
  • ursusmorologusursusmorologus Member Posts: 5,328 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    I almost killed a dread by myself in a spire elite. Tyken's Rift and transphasics
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  • wolfpacknzwolfpacknz Member Posts: 783 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    foundrelic wrote: »
    THey have ludicrous defensive capabilities, fine.



    But the bigger ships... their shields don't move.


    Not even a wiggle as you absolutely WAIL on them.


    Even as the ship explodes the shields remain intact until the ship actually pops.



    Now, I know they're supposed to be "Tough nuts to crack" but I don't think their shields are supposed to be impossible to drop.

    Have fought their ships large and small on tribble, their shields go down just like any one elses...
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  • freedumb4evafreedumb4eva Member Posts: 269
    edited November 2013
    I am very surprised that any one is having any trouble with this new Elite content. For me, it's still too easy.

    I have not had any, "One shot deaths without a good reason." I have been vaped quickly WITH reason, though.
  • wolfpacknzwolfpacknz Member Posts: 783 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    wolfpacknz wrote: »
    Have fought their ships large and small on tribble, their shields go down just like any one elses...
    azurianstar wrote: »
    They were weak on Tribble, but now they are just WAY OP.


    The Swarmers AP, the Voth Gravity Well that takes 1/2 of your life in 1 second. The Voth Gravition Torpedoes that 1-shot you. Honestly, I'm getting tired of STO with this nonsense. So tired of 1-shot deaths without a good reason.

    Good, they were TOO EASY on Tribble, if you are getting one shotted by them Don't blame Cryptic, fix your ship...
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  • themariethemarie Member Posts: 1,055 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    Funny, I took my most LOL-tastic build through The Breach and we cleaned house quickly and made it out the door.

    Then I solo'd most of a battle-zone... me and one other player took down the boss with little effort. This isn't even my UberToon, she's carrying mostly XI gear.

    The combat missions vs other ships in the sphere have been laughably easy too.

    Frankly, if anything this is too damn easy. Or maybe I'm just that darn good at builds. Either way I am disappointed -- I was not expecting to roll the two most touted battles in one evening with little effort.
  • mushariagainmushariagain Member Posts: 304 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    Ok, everyone who's claiming that the dyson sphere is easy and they face rolled everything solo and what have you, how many of you are running escorts? I'm willing to bet that it's most of you, I can only think that those of you who aren't using an escort are either lying or are using a lot of rep gear. If I'm right, then please, hush! The rest of us don't need your bragging.
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  • themariethemarie Member Posts: 1,055 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    Cruiser with XI gear.

    I haven't brought my MaxRep UltraToon out to play yet.


    Wondering if there is supposed to be some sort of sliding difficulty mechanic at work. The more people in an encounter the harder it is... because I should not be able to roll multiple cruisers by myself.
  • dahminusdahminus Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    I swear I'll smack all you scrubs if you get this ez mode content nerfed further.

    If you can't handle elite, don't go into elite until you learn to pilot your ship with skill...

    Just....bah...play how you want to play just don't complain about content being hard because you want to fly with your arms behind your back...

    Very touchy subject for me...sorry
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  • themariethemarie Member Posts: 1,055 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    dahminus wrote: »
    I swear I'll smack all you scrubs if you get this ez mode content nerfed further.

    If you can't handle elite, don't go into elite until you learn to pilot your ship with skill...

    Just....bah...play how you want to play just don't complain about content being hard because you want to fly with your arms behind your back...

    Very touchy subject for me...sorry


    I absolutely agree -- most of the content I've encountered is on par with the standard PVE fare -- not challenging in the least. It's a big letdown overall, to be honest I was expecting some game-changing new challenges.

    Yet here we are, 12 hours into the new season and people are crying NERF OMG TOO HARD while I roll through content in what I consider a troll-barge.

    Are we even playing the same game? Some days I wonder. I really do.
  • kyeto13kyeto13 Member Posts: 3 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    mushariagain wrote: »
    Ok, everyone who's claiming that the dyson sphere is easy and they face rolled everything solo and what have you, how many of you are running escorts? I'm willing to bet that it's most of you, I can only think that those of you who aren't using an escort are either lying or are using a lot of rep gear. If I'm right, then please, hush! The rest of us don't need your bragging.

    Vesta Class Science ship. Specced mostly for debuff and support. Fleet gear and some mk XI blue and purple gear.

    You just have to know when to lean in and when to lay off. And again, the dreadnaughts are NOT MEANT TO BE SOLOED!!! It is a team ship for a team kill.
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  • freedumb4evafreedumb4eva Member Posts: 269
    edited November 2013
    dahminus wrote: »
    I swear I'll smack all you scrubs if you get this ez mode content nerfed further.

    If you can't handle elite, don't go into elite until you learn to pilot your ship with skill...

    Just....bah...play how you want to play just don't complain about content being hard because you want to fly with your arms behind your back...

    Very touchy subject for me...sorry


    I couldn't agree more.

    IMO this content is way too easy.
  • nagrom7nagrom7 Member Posts: 995 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    mushariagain wrote: »
    Ok, everyone who's claiming that the dyson sphere is easy and they face rolled everything solo and what have you, how many of you are running escorts? I'm willing to bet that it's most of you, I can only think that those of you who aren't using an escort are either lying or are using a lot of rep gear. If I'm right, then please, hush! The rest of us don't need your bragging.

    My vendor trash ships that only just got to lvl 50 find this easy. All you need is a solid build, if you are having these troubles then obviously you don't have a solid build. Simple. :rolleyes:
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  • sonnikkusonnikku Member Posts: 77 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    Might better increase the hull but allow the shields to be whittled down. No reason to punish people for investing in abilities and builds that "don't count" because the enemy has gimmick shields that never deplete.
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  • hargbokhargbok Member Posts: 37 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    Lol the voth are paper swiss cheese I wish they were hard. The v rex needs to be impossible to kill and take at least 24 people or more tokill
    it. Im 1 to 3 shotting voth most the time.
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  • matchstick606matchstick606 Member Posts: 233 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    dahminus wrote: »
    I swear I'll smack all you scrubs if you get this ez mode content nerfed further.

    If you can't handle elite, don't go into elite until you learn to pilot your ship with skill...

    Just....bah...play how you want to play just don't complain about content being hard because you want to fly with your arms behind your back...

    Very touchy subject for me...sorry

    but we still haven't nerfed the voth to the point of using a miranda to take out a small fleet of them :P

    but yeah back to the op, ah no. lets not nerf what is likely one of the easiest season/stf's that has ever rolled out of sto.
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  • swamarianswamarian Member Posts: 1,506 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    Drain build fleet Nebula, here. I spent some time on a spire, and rescued a carrier, along with some random side missions. It didn't feel too tough for me.
  • ladymyajhaladymyajha Member Posts: 1,428 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    mushariagain wrote: »
    Ok, everyone who's claiming that the dyson sphere is easy and they face rolled everything solo and what have you, how many of you are running escorts? I'm willing to bet that it's most of you, I can only think that those of you who aren't using an escort are either lying or are using a lot of rep gear. If I'm right, then please, hush! The rest of us don't need your bragging.

    I did it on Tribble with the D'kyr. Yes that's right the D'kyr, using standard mk xi polarons at first, with a 180 quantum torp and the dominion set, with no rep gear. I always test on tribble using low end stuff (okay so the D'kyr is c-store, but its OLD c-store) to test out the difficulty, and found it just about the right difficulty for a new player.

    On live I'm running a Vesta with MK XII Phased Polaron beam arrays and the Dominion Space Set. I will admit that my shuttles are elite purples and that I have the consoles (and only the consoles) from the reps. Skills are heavy on Exotic damage though (hoping to get me a nice purple mk xii dyson science console).

    Now did I face roll the final ship? No. Have I been overpowered in the zone when capturing a tower solo and suddenly found myself with Grav Wells being chained on me, sure. But hard... no, it's not hard.
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  • rickskynightrickskynight Member Posts: 171 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    mushariagain wrote: »
    Ok, everyone who's claiming that the dyson sphere is easy and they face rolled everything solo and what have you, how many of you are running escorts? I'm willing to bet that it's most of you, I can only think that those of you who aren't using an escort are either lying or are using a lot of rep gear. If I'm right, then please, hush! The rest of us don't need your bragging.

    I'm a Science Cpt. (I really should have made an engineer 3 years ago when I made this toon) running a fleet advanced heavy cruiser. I've been pretty much slaughtering voth left and right. Now admittedly I have my ship tweaked, all my power levels are above 75 with weapons being at 122. With the right Doffs in place and some efficient boffs, the right warp core for how you adjust your power, etc, you can easily own voth... borg...the big crystal on elite.. etc.

    I also have a fleet galaxy class that has been doing great against the voth as well. It only has two tac console slots, but that doesnt as much since my power transfer rate on it is above 500%, so my weapons power never really dips at all.

    I think you really need to look at your ship and how it can be improved with power levels, and doffs. Efficient Boffs help as well. :D
  • supertone4761supertone4761 Member Posts: 52 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    As a bit of an outsider here...not entirely, but I don't get on forums a whole lot...

    I guess I'm the only one who found it reasonable? Given, I'm in a good fleet and I have a well established role as a control/healer. A group of us went and found it to be harder than an Hive Elite run, but definitely not impossible. And yes, my fleet is mostly casual players.

    By reasonable, I don't think its too hard or too easy.
  • roxbadroxbad Member Posts: 695
    edited November 2013
    I was kinda surprised at how easy the Voth are to kill.
  • futurepastnowfuturepastnow Member Posts: 3,660 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    They were too easy on Tribble. Now they're just about right for my tastes. Of course, now there are far more casual players going up against them than on Tribble.
  • sunfranckssunfrancks Member Posts: 3,925 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    Not had any problems with space Voth, they are face rolled very easily.

    Had some problems with ground, but mainly due to going in solo and getting ganked by 20 Voth...
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  • shadowwraith77shadowwraith77 Member Posts: 6,395 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    matchstick606 wrote: »
    but we still haven't nerfed the voth to the point of using a miranda to take out a small fleet of them :P

    but yeah back to the op, ah no. lets not nerf what is likely one of the easiest season/stf's that has ever rolled out of sto.

    Miranda, hell they want it so easy even a type 8 shuttle can mop fleets of them. :P
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  • hasukurobihasukurobi Member Posts: 1,421 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    foundrelic wrote: »
    THey have ludicrous defensive capabilities, fine.



    But the bigger ships... their shields don't move.


    Not even a wiggle as you absolutely WAIL on them.


    Even as the ship explodes the shields remain intact until the ship actually pops.



    Now, I know they're supposed to be "Tough nuts to crack" but I don't think their shields are supposed to be impossible to drop.

    LOL... It means they are like my Odyssey HAHAHAAA... I find it easy to kill them anyway though. The fact that they hardly move makes them sitting ducks.
  • mirrorchaosmirrorchaos Member Posts: 9,844 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    then they shouldn't be hard to kill for me either then. i can spam FAW with my Vor'cha (not that 1 dimensional race on ME) and it's using blue xi phased polaron beam arrays. primarily it's purpose is to tank heavy enemy fire and dish out just as much in damage. havent quite reached the xii very rare phased polarons but it shouldn't matter too much.

    forget a type 8 shuttle go down to a peregrine. if you can survive in that, you can survive anything.
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  • nagrom7nagrom7 Member Posts: 995 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    matchstick606 wrote: »
    but we still haven't nerfed the voth to the point of using a miranda to take out a small fleet of them :P

    ....

    That's brilliant.
    I'll talk to my fleet (We've miranda'ed ISE and CE before), we have to get this done
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