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The four episodes to watch

aaronh42aaronh42 Member Posts: 291 Arc User
edited October 2013 in Star Trek Online General Discussion
In the priority one podcast there was mentioned four episodes to watch to relate the the featured episode (and season 8). They Were:

Distant Origin (Voy), Relics (TNG), Omega Directive (Voy), Schisms (TNG)

So if you have been following, the first three have been revealed. Distant Origin is the Voth episode, Relics is a Dyson Sphere episode (even though it isn't the Dyson Sphere from season 8), I won't spoil Omega Directive for those who don't want to be spoiled, but the episode alone should give it away.

Then we Have Schisms. How does this relate? Before anyone says it, the Elachi are not the aliens from Schisms. For those who don't recall, the Memory alpha entry.

So, speculation?
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  • defalusdefalus Member Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    Subspace technobable comes up quite often in Schisms and the Alien carrier that we keep hearing about is said to use subspace tech so that could be the Schisms link.
    This ancient, full-Carrier vessel uses subspace technology and was created by an alien race that may be related to the Iconians. As captains venture into the new feature episode, they?ll learn more about where this ship comes and get a chance to captain it in combat.
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  • capnshadow27capnshadow27 Member Posts: 1,731 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    I feel like they did a split with that episode.

    Dividians and Elachi.

    Though the Elachi look more like "traditional" aliens. By that i mean your standrad big eyed little green men, only taller.
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  • neoakiraiineoakiraii Member Posts: 7,468 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    100 quatloos the Hooded aliens are Iconions, working with the Elachi who were genetically created.
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  • stofskstofsk Member Posts: 1,744 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    neoakiraii wrote: »
    100 quatloos the Hooded aliens are Iconions, working with the Elachi who were genetically created.
    No bet

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  • azurianstarazurianstar Member Posts: 6,985 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    aaronh42 wrote: »
    In the priority one podcast there was mentioned four episodes to watch to relate the the featured episode (and season 8). They Were:

    Distant Origin (Voy), Relics (TNG), Omega Directive (Voy), Schisms (TNG)

    So if you have been following, the first three have been revealed. Distant Origin is the Voth episode, Relics is a Dyson Sphere episode (even though it isn't the Dyson Sphere from season 8), I won't spoil Omega Directive for those who don't want to be spoiled, but the episode alone should give it away.

    Then we Have Schisms. How does this relate? Before anyone says it, the Elachi are not the aliens from Schisms. For those who don't recall, the Memory alpha entry.

    So, speculation?

    Honestly, it's got me stumped.

    Distant Origin definitely refers to the Voth
    Relics the Dyson Sphere
    Omega Directive - the Omega Particles thats in the new Dyson Sphere.

    But Scisms, all I can think of is the Solanogen-based lifeforms. Which Cryptic had the Elachi performing parallel techniques such as the abduction through portals and the experimentation. But those Solanogen-based_lifeforms are living in subspace, so they can't be the aliens that once lived in that Dyson sphere.

    Though this caught my interest:
    As such, the title refers to the splits in subspace that allow the aliens to abduct crewmembers

    Maybe the Omega particles generate the splits in subspace that allow the Elachi to do their dirty work?


    That or we will have an Ode to Dinosaurs? :rolleyes:
  • hevachhevach Member Posts: 2,777 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    Cryptic history is telling me to think obvious. They're not generally big on subtlety in actual storylines, just in their teases.

    Which leaves me at a dead end. Gecko didn't want to mention the fourth episode because it would just spoil everything and make us look at a previous mission and go, "Ooooh, obviously." So... yeah. Are you sure it was Schisms? I could have sworn he never actually said what that TNG episode was...
  • sunfranckssunfrancks Member Posts: 3,925 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    I am going to lol if they try and tie the Schisms episode to the Elachi. Especially as the devs have been adamant that they are separate species ;)

    I am betting on the Preservers having some role in season 8, but only time will tell...
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  • tekehdtekehd Member Posts: 2,032 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    Of note, just because Schisms is mentioned does not mean it is necessarily the aliens from Schisms... just as Relics is there not because it is the Dyson Sphere from Relics.
  • captainrevo1captainrevo1 Member Posts: 3,948 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    Well they certainly made reference to schisms in LoR, which made everyone think the silent enemy from Ent and the Schism aliens where one and the same.

    Taco then said they were not (which makes sense as they look totally different) so I would be glad if they explain the connection and maybe even introduce them too.
  • twg042370twg042370 Member Posts: 2,312 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    aaronh42 wrote: »
    Omega Directive (Voy)

    You know what's funny about that episode?

    Starfleet decided that the best way to keep the Omega Particle a secret was to shut down the ship and alarming the entire crew with a big ominous Omega on all of the control panels whenever one was detected.

    It's like putting up a big sign on the highway that says, "Secret base: 10Km"
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  • jeffel82jeffel82 Member Posts: 2,075 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    twg042370 wrote: »
    You know what's funny about that episode?

    Starfleet decided that the best way to keep the Omega Particle a secret was to shut down the ship and alarming the entire crew with a big ominous Omega on all of the control panels whenever one was detected.

    It's like putting up a big sign on the highway that says, "Secret base: 10Km"

    On a list of goofy aspects of Voyager, I'm not sure that one even cracks the Top 50. :rolleyes:
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  • starkaosstarkaos Member Posts: 11,556 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    captainrevo1 wrote: »
    Well they certainly made reference to schisms in LoR, which made everyone think the silent enemy from Ent and the Schism aliens where one and the same.

    Taco then said they were not (which makes sense as they look totally different) so I would be glad if they explain the connection and maybe even introduce them too.

    Easy. Whoever did the text for that missions confused the two.
  • avantgarde01avantgarde01 Member Posts: 273 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    From the Preservers perspective I was thinking of the following episodes:

    TOS - The Paradise Syndrome
    TNG - The Chase

    There is also one more Iconian related episode which is sometimes overlooked:

    DS9 - To The Death
  • azniadeetazniadeet Member Posts: 1,871 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    Why are people thinking it's Schisms? I didn't hear Gecko say what the fourth episode was.

    That having been said, I'm thinking he's referring to "The Chase". I want to go back and play through 'Cold War' just to look for references now.

    It is also worth noting that in both 'Cold Storage', as well as the TOS episode about the Preservers, the Preserver structure is referred to as 'the Obelisk'.
  • thecosmic1thecosmic1 Member Posts: 9,365 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    azniadeet wrote: »
    Why are people thinking it's Schisms? I didn't hear Gecko say what the fourth episode was.
    In the second part of the Priority One podcast he confirms it's Schism. He says it at the end when they're asking for one final hint.
    STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
  • azniadeetazniadeet Member Posts: 1,871 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    thecosmic1 wrote: »
    In the second part of the Priority One podcast he confirms it's Schism. He says it at the end when they're asking for one final hint.

    Oh, thank you. I didn't realize there was a second part. I'm starting it up now.
  • stirling191stirling191 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    Clearly it means Mot the Barber will be making an appearance on the Sphere.
  • captainrevo1captainrevo1 Member Posts: 3,948 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    starkaos wrote: »
    Easy. Whoever did the text for that missions confused the two.

    doubtful. there are numerous star trek fans on the team, and it was not just text as we see a cardassian go through a portal exactly the same as the episode. Multiple people will have been involved in its planning, construction and playthrough.

    A lot of people would have had to have made that mistake and have no one correct them.
  • z3ndor99z3ndor99 Member Posts: 1,391 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    Its the aliens from schism's, for one in all tribble patch notes reference the dyson sphere as having the same name as the aliens from schisms, geko said it relates to previous mission, so the romulan mission where cardassians get abducted through subspace portals, the dev blog where the romulans have tested the gate and, the scientist is complaining of not sleeping an nightmares, also think about it if you abducted people and, held them against their will you would need somewhere for them to live, just my thoughts on the matter.
  • schreader1718schreader1718 Member Posts: 31 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    Geko gave hints, not the whole story. This is pure speculation, but I suspect there is one more large piece to the puzzle.

    In the Destiny novels (which often find a reflection in STO, such as the Vesta-class multi-mission explorer), there is a reference to a vast network of subspace tunnels that begin at or near the Azure Nebula and extend well into the Delta Quadrant. In that series, there is also reference to a species called the Caeliar, who: a) can manipulate matter in regular space and in subspace, b) use Dyson spheres to harness the power of stars for their Great Work, and c) originated on the planet Erigol, which used to orbit the star that became the Azure Nebula.

    As we've seen in numerous storylines from different ST series, there are a number of instances where one species uses the ancient tech of another to advance themselves. I suspect there is a direct connection between all of these disparate elements, and at the center of it are the Caeliar and the Iconians.

    I would also suspect that the technology used by the solanogen-based lifeforms that are mentioned in TNG's "Schisms" is based on the Caeliar's natural ability to manipulate matter, probably using the Omega Particle as its basis.
  • saekiithsaekiith Member Posts: 534 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    Oh I hope for the love of Kahless that they are going to a safety distance of at least 1 AU to the Caeliar themselves... they were so much a Deus Ex Gluteus Maximus it's not even funny ;)
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  • azniadeetazniadeet Member Posts: 1,871 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    It's interesting to note that if you're watching TNG in order, Schisms directly follows after Relics. Perhaps visiting a Dyson Sphere does something to catch the attention of these aliens.
  • aaronh42aaronh42 Member Posts: 291 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    captainrevo1 wrote: »
    doubtful. there are numerous star trek fans on the team, and it was not just text as we see a cardassian go through a portal exactly the same as the episode. Multiple people will have been involved in its planning, construction and playthrough.

    A lot of people would have had to have made that mistake and have no one correct them.

    This tends to lead me to believe that while independent, both the Schisms aliens and the Elachi are or were working for the Iconians.
  • stirling191stirling191 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    aaronh42 wrote: »
    This tends to lead me to believe that while independent, both the Schisms aliens and the Elachi are or were working for the Iconians.

    If it's an STO antagonist, of course it worked for the Iconians.
  • captainrevo1captainrevo1 Member Posts: 3,948 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    aaronh42 wrote: »
    This tends to lead me to believe that while independent, both the Schisms aliens and the Elachi are or were working for the Iconians.

    I think so, and i think maybe the Voth too. The are an old race so may well have known the iconians, and they did like to gather allies to their cause.

    I'm hoping when they show their face, we (feds, roms, kdf) will have to band together to fight the iconian alliance.
  • neoakiraiineoakiraii Member Posts: 7,468 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    I'm sure Worf wants payback against those guys in hoods.
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  • capemike4capemike4 Member Posts: 394 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    schreader1718 wrote: »
    Geko gave hints, not the whole story. This is pure speculation, but I suspect there is one more large piece to the puzzle.

    In the Destiny novels (which often find a reflection in STO, such as the Vesta-class multi-mission explorer), there is a reference to a vast network of subspace tunnels that begin at or near the Azure Nebula and extend well into the Delta Quadrant. In that series, there is also reference to a species called the Caeliar, who: a) can manipulate matter in regular space and in subspace, b) use Dyson spheres to harness the power of stars for their Great Work, and c) originated on the planet Erigol, which used to orbit the star that became the Azure Nebula.

    As we've seen in numerous storylines from different ST series, there are a number of instances where one species uses the ancient tech of another to advance themselves. I suspect there is a direct connection between all of these disparate elements, and at the center of it are the Caeliar and the Iconians.

    I would also suspect that the technology used by the solanogen-based lifeforms that are mentioned in TNG's "Schisms" is based on the Caeliar's natural ability to manipulate matter, probably using the Omega Particle as its basis.

    I completely forgot about that trilogy of books...I've read it through several times, and this makes a LOT of sense...if it's them, though...this is about to get VERY interesting....
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  • starkaosstarkaos Member Posts: 11,556 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    captainrevo1 wrote: »
    doubtful. there are numerous star trek fans on the team, and it was not just text as we see a cardassian go through a portal exactly the same as the episode. Multiple people will have been involved in its planning, construction and playthrough.

    A lot of people would have had to have made that mistake and have no one correct them.

    We can safely say that the Elachi and the Schism aliens deal with subspace in some serious way. So it is likely that they know each other in some way either as allies, neutral, or enemies. It makes sense that the Elachi would keep track of what their contemporaries are doing especially ones that are working in the Alpha Quadrant. Just because there is a report about Cardassians being abducted through portals by the Schism aliens in Elachi computers doesn't mean that the Elachi are involved with it.

    If the Schism aliens detected alien life from the Alpha Quadrant, then they would look for signals to further their studies of the Alpha Quadrant and not limit their studies to one ship that fought back. Cardassians could have just stumbled on another method to make the Schism aliens notice them and the Schism aliens could be the main alien enemy for when the Cardassian faction is introduced. The two alien races have 2 completely different M.O. One abducts people by using probes while the other abducts people by using portals. So there is nothing linking the Elachi and Schism aliens except people's mistaken assumptions.
  • tacofangstacofangs Member Posts: 2,951 Cryptic Developer
    edited October 2013
    THERE ARE FOUR EPISODES!

    um. . . ya. . .
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  • jumpingjsjumpingjs Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    tacofangs wrote: »
    THERE ARE FOUR EPISODES!

    um. . . ya. . .

    No Taco, remember what we discussed, THERE ARE FIVE EPISODES!

    And I am sorry , but one of my officer is going to obiliterate 100 Tacos. Now think carefully before you reply, or OVER 9000! Tacos will be destroyed.

    Shall we begin?

    How many episodes are there?



    LOL


    Interesting thread!
    Hopefully I'll come back from my break; this break is fun; I play intellectual games.

    I hope STO get's better ...
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