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STO featured in Cracked article

edwardianededwardianed Member Posts: 0 Arc User
edited October 2013 in Star Trek Online General Discussion
Well, I say everyone, really it's just people who read comedy site Cracked:

http://www.cracked.com/blog/6-groundbreaking-ways-video-games-are-TRIBBLE-players/
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  • thecosmic1thecosmic1 Member Posts: 9,365 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    I laughed so hard at the Eve Online entry. This one line in the entry is exactly how I feel about it too:
    Something awesome is happening, but most of your life has been boring drudgery and now you're going to be killed by characters who've been here longer.
    :)
    STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
  • phoeniciusphoenicius Member Posts: 762 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    edwardianed wrote: »
    Well, I say everyone, really it's just people who read comedy site Cracked:

    http://www.cracked.com/blog/6-groundbreaking-ways-video-games-are-TRIBBLE-players/

    oh people know about that, they just don't care lol.

    also for all its faults, you don't actually NEED a lockbox ship to do well through.
  • eisenw0lfeisenw0lf Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    The author forgot to mention that smart people can get everything for free in STO and only the rich and impatient players throw their money into the lottery.
  • geoff484geoff484 Member Posts: 209 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    http://www.cracked.com/blog/6-groundbreaking-ways-video-games-are-TRIBBLE-players/

    Now, while I personally don't care too much about lock boxes since I never pump money into them and just sell them - I do agree 100% with this article in the case that I hate that it's the only way that you can get an uber butt stomping ship(s).
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  • mandoknight89mandoknight89 Member Posts: 1,687 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    And they only give the smallest nod to the fact that other companies have decided to run the locked box "deal" for their Free to Play games. Before STO, even.
  • erei1erei1 Member Posts: 4,081 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    eisenw0lf wrote: »
    The author forgot to mention that smart people can get everything for free in STO and only the rich and impatient players throw their money into the lottery.
    He conveniently forgot a lot, not only about STO.
    It's just a random troll.
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  • damienvryce2damienvryce2 Member Posts: 428 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    "Captain, shields are down, main power is offline, and our credit limit has been reached!" That made me lol. :D But, sadly, I have had far too many side orders of "duh".
    STO: Where men are men and the women probably are too.
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  • johngazmanjohngazman Member Posts: 2,826 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    I like how STO has been singled out in this article. I mean, it's not like anyone else does this.
    You're just a machine. And machines can be broken.
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  • vocmcpvocmcp Member Posts: 1,134 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    This made me laugh hard :D

    "This system was recently removed, triggering a backlash from the players (which is proof that online gamers will complain about any change). If a video game developer removed tumors from players, they'd whine about nerfing their loss in weight and access to radiation powers."
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  • erei1erei1 Member Posts: 4,081 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    johngazman wrote: »
    I like how STO has been singled out in this article. I mean, it's not like anyone else does this.
    Nop, they are the only one to do that. Not even EA would do such a thing ! But hey, it could be worse, we could have a reputation based on boxes, but nobody would do that.

    I don't like the box. But given everything else is free, and you can buy whatever is inside for ingame cash, it could be worse.
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  • nickcastletonnickcastleton Member Posts: 1,212 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    why isnt TOR in the article there laughable ftp system limits what u get.

    only 1 crew skill (u need 3 to create anything good)
    no acess to cargo hold
    credits capped at 2k
    restricted chat
    cant send mail
    cannot trade items
    only 3 species to choose from
    cant hide helmit
    cant display titles
    limit of flashpoints warzones ect.

    the list goes on and its restrictions are so bad it forces you to sub in order for the game to really become playable, where as STO can be played and u never really fell any restrictions at all.
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  • thecosmic1thecosmic1 Member Posts: 9,365 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    You guys are taking this all too seriously. It's Cracked, a site dedicated to humor.
    STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
  • fraghul2000fraghul2000 Member Posts: 1,590 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    And not a single mention that the drops from the lockbox aren't the top of the food chain or that they are purchasable through ingame means as well, nor that you can be completely competative without ever spending a single dime or Zen on anything.

    Als I doubt the line that "Most player hate lockboxes..." is true. Sure there are some loud haters, but it feels like the majority (at least the people I play and used to play with) just accept them without any hard feeling towards or against them.

    I take optional lockboxes over having to pay $30 for playable Romulans or $15 per FE unlock for example...
  • captainrevo1captainrevo1 Member Posts: 3,948 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    geoff484 wrote: »
    I do agree 100% with this article in the case that I hate that it's the only way that you can get an uber butt stomping ship(s).

    Or you could buy them with in game EC?
  • starswordcstarswordc Member Posts: 10,966 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    eisenw0lf wrote: »
    The author forgot to mention that smart people can get everything for free in STO and only the rich and impatient players throw their money into the lottery.

    Only if you're prepared to spend weeks or months grinding. I was going for a rebuild of my star cruiser using crafting and calculated it would take me nine days of grinding to get enough dil for the unreplicateable materials. Then I double checked my fleet stores and there wasn't even a comparison between adv fleet weaps and the stuff I could build myself. So I turned 80k dil into zen, and got about 600. This was a few weeks ago when the exchange rate was something like 128:1, not the ridiculous level it's spiked to recently. I bought my Fleet Avenger with real money because the thought of grinding 3000 zen worth of dil at a 136:1 exchange rate was frankly horrifying.
    captainrevo1 wrote: »
    Or you could buy them with in game EC?

    I never understood how people get enough money that they can spend tens of millions of EC on the exchange. I've never even managed to break a million.
    "Great War! / And I cannot take more! / Great tour! / I keep on marching on / I play the great score / There will be no encore / Great War! / The War to End All Wars"
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  • bitemepwebitemepwe Member Posts: 6,760 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    "All roulette should be Russian to further the betterment of the species..."

    Lol. Just remember kiddies never play this with a automatic.
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  • captainrevo1captainrevo1 Member Posts: 3,948 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    starswordc wrote: »

    I never understood how people get enough money that they can spend tens of millions of EC on the exchange. I've never even managed to break a million.

    Its boring as hell but it just involves selling everything. Doffs can quickly rack you up cash as people need them for the bases. contraband sells well, any lock box keys, lobit items, equipment. some of the better foundry grind missions can get you 250k a go, the tour the universe can net around 300k or so.

    its just patience and persistence.
  • sonnikkusonnikku Member Posts: 77 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    Rune Scape is the world's largest free-to-play MMORPG, where "free to play" means "choosing between spending $5 or five hours on simulated chores."

    This kind of reminds me of STO. I did the math. If you wanted $5 worth of Zen purchased with Dil, at the current exchange rate of 143 dil per zen you would be looking at 71,500 dil to farm. Put another way, that would take 9 days of "chores" in STO. If it took you two hours each day to get your 8000 dil then that's $5 worth of real world currency for 18 hours of "chores". Rune Scape players are getting fleeced less than us. :(
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  • panserbjorne39panserbjorne39 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    Addicts want to defend and rationalize their drug use, eh? The article was funny and had some good points. I love cracked..
    I've avoided MMO's for the longest time and stuck with console gaming specifically for the reasons mentioned in the article. I was attracted to this game because at the time I was broke and a Star Trek fan. But the fact is, I've spent more money on this game then I ever did on my PS3/Xbox360 games. But, at some point, I wised up and also made peace with things taking longer than "RIGHT NOW!" to get. So now I don't spend money and lock boxes are deleted.
    Yes, you can get anything in STO for free, but there is a heavy time cost. I can only speak for myself and I know I'm not the best at working the exchange and stuff but it took me over a month of heavy grinding to get to about 80 million ec and 300k Dilithium. When I say heavy, it means 5 characters 3 of which are KDF (more dil) running everyday at about 36-40 hours a week. To be fair though, I will spend hours just PvP'ing, doing rep, or earning marks.
    The amount of time it would take to get anything of value if I only had one character and played casually 5-10 hours a week would be crazy.
  • starswordcstarswordc Member Posts: 10,966 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    I just collect the lockboxes and sell them off as 20-packs on the exchange. I'm enough of an RP guy that I want my toons flying faction-appropriate ships, even if they're not ships from the shows. No Fed tac in a Jem'Hadar dreadnought here.
    "Great War! / And I cannot take more! / Great tour! / I keep on marching on / I play the great score / There will be no encore / Great War! / The War to End All Wars"
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  • starswordcstarswordc Member Posts: 10,966 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    sopwithsnipe wrote: »
    So people pointing out that an article is a poor example of unbiased journalism makes them addicts. You must be a huge fan of Fox News and believe everything they say. :P

    Nobody said Cracked was unbiased. Where games are involved they're sometimes almost as bad as Fox News at fact-checking. I remember an article that thought KOTOR, not SWTOR, was the ****ty MMO.

    Though I often agree with their stances, particularly on their opinion that Diablo III being always-online is total BS.
    "Great War! / And I cannot take more! / Great tour! / I keep on marching on / I play the great score / There will be no encore / Great War! / The War to End All Wars"
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  • tekehdtekehd Member Posts: 2,032 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    starswordc wrote: »
    I never understood how people get enough money that they can spend tens of millions of EC on the exchange. I've never even managed to break a million.

    Probably like me, posting nice purple drops from borg eSTF's or Gorn minefield on the exchange.... I've had drops on there that I've sold for 2+ million EC.
  • jrwithjrwith Member Posts: 154 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    http://www.cracked.com/blog/6-groundbreaking-ways-video-games-are-TRIBBLE-players/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=fanpage&utm_campaign=new+article&wa_ibsrc=fanpage

    psychological landmine is right, of course I've gotten some sweet mirror ships out of the deal myself.

    sorry I missed the above article, mods you can delete this if need be.
  • keysmachinekeysmachine Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    starswordc wrote: »

    I never understood how people get enough money that they can spend tens of millions of EC on the exchange. I've never even managed to break a million.

    seriously? you're kidding right?

    i don't even do anything special.. i just sell the butt loads of TRIBBLE items right to the vendor i'm level 49 and already have 657k EC
  • jrwithjrwith Member Posts: 154 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    grind in Kerrat or stfs and undercut people on the exchange, that's how I do it. of course some items are worth more than others or will fluctuate.
  • daedalus304daedalus304 Member Posts: 1,049 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    hmmm yea....they didn't do much reaserch into the lockboxes.

    nothing in those boxes breaks the game at all, hell get a lockbox ship and you get a cool looking and unique ship.

    consoles are a debateable issue, but it still all boils down to how good a captain you are.

    love em or hate em, they do create a stimulus that STO needed, without those keys many things would not be possible, same goes for the in game economy which was stale as well.

    but in all seriousness, Lockboxes are pretty good personally, for those who have extra cash to spend yea it caters to them, or for those who use dilithium, you can get one key a day.

    it's still a bit of a hit miss system but it works.
  • panserbjorne39panserbjorne39 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    sopwithsnipe wrote: »
    So people pointing out that an article is a poor example of unbiased journalism makes them addicts. You must be a huge fan of Fox News and believe everything they say. :P

    Pointing out cracked is bad journalism is like pointing out that the sky is blue. It's a freakin' comedy site ffs. You want journalism go to Fox news website! I kid I kid.
    The defensive sounding nature of the posts is what prompted my response. Because frankly, how can you defend something so blatantly setup to keep you playing and spending indefinitely, that also includes a gambling element, and also has a supposedly player based economy that is still manipulated carefully by Cryptic.
    And btw...I don't watch the news. :D
  • wraithshadow13wraithshadow13 Member Posts: 1,728 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    it's funny that they didn't just delete the other thread, but joined them instead
  • thecosmic1thecosmic1 Member Posts: 9,365 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    Yeah. There's another thread about it. Good to know there were 3 worse games. :)
    STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
  • wraithshadow13wraithshadow13 Member Posts: 1,728 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    thecosmic1 wrote: »
    Yeah. There's another thread about it. Good to know there were 3 worse games. :)

    Really? where at? i tried looking before i posted, but didn't see anything
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