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torsten1009
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Hi,
the Public Service Channel has gone private and at the same time the Blog disappeared. Even the whole Feedback-Thread (try the link) has been deleted or locked.
The last posts of Feedback-Thread were about "Operators on a powertrip" and things like that. Well, now that the channel is private and the rules change more frequently than you can reload the page, this seems to be true.
Was there a flamewar going on on that Thread, or what happend over there?
the Public Service Channel has gone private and at the same time the Blog disappeared. Even the whole Feedback-Thread (try the link) has been deleted or locked.
The last posts of Feedback-Thread were about "Operators on a powertrip" and things like that. Well, now that the channel is private and the rules change more frequently than you can reload the page, this seems to be true.
Was there a flamewar going on on that Thread, or what happend over there?
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If Star Trek Online was an Open-Source (GPL) Game, we would have a low-grind fork.
If Star Trek Online was an Open-Source (GPL) Game, we would have a low-grind fork.
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For the glory of Tempus!
I am the hands of Shar!
Flames of Kossuth, protect me!
Oghma, grant me knowledge!
Lolth commands, and I obey!
I got onto the NoP Public Service channel a while back and love it. Very friendly atmosphere from what I've seen there. I'll just stick to using that one.
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Yeah that makes sense.
Someone should just start a new one and advertise it then?
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My thoughts exactly. How to serve the public when the channel is private
Sigh. This was a long time coming. I knew back when that guest blog was posted that those control freak mods wouldn't be able to handle an influx of people. Kind of sad, since STO needs good channels like that to give people access to fleet holdings and such.
Fortunately there's still NoP Public Service.
Mine Trap Supporter
Don't need to, we already have NoP Public Service and its a damned sight better.
A shame, public services was really a good channel.
There's a growing talk about some fleets or players getting advantages from the mod team or even from DEVs. I'll not put names here because I have no proof and the is all that rulo about naming and shamming.
But... It's more than about time Cryptic put some effort in the customer support.
"If we're going to be damned, let's be damned for what we really are." - Jean-Luc Picard
A global channel like that should be officially moderated by CSRs/GMs and the like.
In fact, this game really could use a global chat channel (with a 3-5 minute per post allowed rule to prevent spam and ESD-like conversations), zone chat really doesnt cut it for most things
Something like:
LTB item X, PM with offer
Help me with mission Y, PM me
Anyone want to do STF Z, send a pm
Oh hey, this mission is broken so dont do it right now
and so on. one post every few minutes allowed wouldnt clog it to death, and spam would obviously get muted out etc
I dunno, i never did like player moderated global chats. Never.
Fleet Admiral Rylana - Fed Tac - U.S.S Wild Card - Tactical Miracle Worker Cruiser
Lifetime Subscriber since 2012 == 17,200 Accolades = RIP PvP and Vice Squad
Chief of Starfleet Intelligence Service == Praise Cheesus
I wouldn't have any Elite stuff if it wasn't for them. The convos in there are very laidback too without any stupid rules. I guess the only rule there is: don't be an *******. NoP rocks!
For the glory of Tempus!
I am the hands of Shar!
Flames of Kossuth, protect me!
Oghma, grant me knowledge!
Lolth commands, and I obey!
Well, there are multiple channels for all those things you are asking for: "TheTradingChannel" (public channel) for example is a good channel for Buying/Selling/Trading, "NoP Public Service" (public channel) just got #1 for invites to Cellships, Bases,... (all that the now private "Public Service"-Channel was good for and so on.
The only limit is the 20 channels per account limit... Except you are spamming, then you might get banned (temporaly) from the chat-system or even from the game.
If Star Trek Online was an Open-Source (GPL) Game, we would have a low-grind fork.
Other than that notification, we are not involved in this matter or channel in anyway, so you'd want to reach out to the organizers of the previous channel for information. If it becomes public again in the future, I'll be able to republish the blog and move the thread back to the GNN.
Cheers,
Brandon =/\=
A wolf remains a wolf, even if it has not eaten your sheep.
Sorry, I'm EliteSTF-Operator, but EliteSTF is not the topic of this thread. If you want to complaint about EliteSTF, send me (@torsten1009) an ingame-mail or mail the Admin of EliteSTF (@UFP-74656) directly.
If Star Trek Online was an Open-Source (GPL) Game, we would have a low-grind fork.
Im sorry, I know this is a serious post... but you sounded exactly like a customer service copypasta there XD
Fleet Admiral Rylana - Fed Tac - U.S.S Wild Card - Tactical Miracle Worker Cruiser
Lifetime Subscriber since 2012 == 17,200 Accolades = RIP PvP and Vice Squad
Chief of Starfleet Intelligence Service == Praise Cheesus
Actually it is relevant. It is another example of a channel that was meant to be for the betterment of the playerbase, but went private and was ruined after the management went on a power trip.... :rolleyes:
Sometimes, if you want to bury the hatchet with a Klingon, it has to be in his skull. - Captain K'Tar of the USS Danu about J'mpok.
You may choose to see conspiracies if you wish, but Public Service went down because its control freak owner couldn't handle the influx of people in the last month or two, and finally cracked. It's been building up for a while, if you've been paying attention.
If the NoP people see an opportunity to advertise, who can blame them, really?
a public service
You forgot to tell the rest of the story:
The Chief-Admin that kicked people for having "slap-in-the-face"-@handles (a "666" in the @handle was enough) left the channel, the new Chief-Admin simplified the rules and EliteSTF is a better place now.
If Star Trek Online was an Open-Source (GPL) Game, we would have a low-grind fork.
i dunno about 'NoP advertising everywhere'. i started a thread simply because me and quite a few others lost one of our biggest outlets for offering free base-invites to the public-at-large, and we want to to inform those people that a perfectly functional alternative exists: NoP Public Service.
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Your representation is hardly comprehensive. It seems to me like evasion.
Over the past year your channel's mods have developed a well-deserved reputation for excess. When there was a known bug with muting, known that muting anyone was essentially a perma-mute because of the bug, this channel had mods that willing threw out mutes like beads in a parade.
It's a private channel, your channel, do with it what you will. As you all already have.
But at least own it and be proud of it.
Better yet say nothing at all and go back to your private channel with its private rules and norms. There is nothing wrong with that.
Because that is the point of being private after all.
It goes beyond that even. STO advertised this channel as an example of the playerbase working well together and using game mechanics to make ESTF more approachable to all customers.
Then EliteSTF went wonky. When players appealed to Cryptic (because, again, this channel was promoted) the response (rightly so I agree) was that this was the point of public vs private channels. Anyone who disagrees with a player channel is correct to critique and move on.
As happened with EliteSTF. And now this latest channel.
I agree across the board. And have zero sympathy when a private channel implodes.
I bought a Tuffli partly to help serve the Public Service channel, I invested millions of EC for the betterment of the playerbase.
But, unless the channel is made public again, I don't feel I can offer services through it. Being private defeats the point of a PUBLIC service channel!
Fortunately, I have now discovered there is an alternative channel, which I shall be using until/if the Public Service channel is public again.
According to their website - there is just an announcement saying it is private now(???) - as somebody said a private public service channel?.....o....k......
NoP Public Service was around before PS went private.
The heck is going on with all the channels? ESTF continues to take flack, PESTF had that spat recently, now Public Service has this?
But then no one will make a public channel, will they?
When I became an Operator of EliteSTF, I was warned to never mute a player. I know only about 4 victims of the mute bug. I'm unable to unmute those people, even Cryptic tried to unmute them and it took only about 2 days until they were muted again - I'm not saying that those players have been muted by an Operator/Admin again.
You are correct, mistakes have been made and no Operator/Admin of EliteSTF can say that they didn't happen. We also can't say that we won't make any mistakes again.
But again, this discussion is offtopic. May I remind you that " Private "Public Service"-Channel -> Blog and Feedback-Thread removed" is the topic of this Thread and not "Private channels are imploding - a look on the history"? Well, EliteSTF is still there, we've got more then 4,000 members and we try to get more. But people need to know STFs before they join the channel, or they might be put on the ignore-lists of other members.
If Star Trek Online was an Open-Source (GPL) Game, we would have a low-grind fork.