Nah. Section 31 is ruthlessly effective and efficient, multi-disciplinary, and recruits the absolute best they can find to make sure they succeed by whatever means necessary.
The NSA goes through everyone's garbage, but doesn't actually know what to do with it other than help encourage audits of people they don't like and leak stuff for political advantage, and get their security breached by a 20-something script kiddie with delusions of grandeur.
Nah. Section 31 is ruthlessly effective and efficient, multi-disciplinary, and recruits the absolute best they can find to make sure they succeed by whatever means necessary.
The NSA goes through everyone's garbage, but doesn't actually know what to do with it other than help encourage audits of people they don't like and leak stuff for political advantage, and get their security breached by a 20-something script kiddie with delusions of grandeur.
Don't insult Section 31 like that.
So they're a wannabe Section 31? I can see that.....
If my lore is correct (kinda hard when the organization you work for doesn't tell you anything beyond hello and here's your designation), S31 began as clandestine operations found on the planet of all the founding races, and continues to recruit from new ones as they joined the Federation. It was pitched as Black Ops in Space according to "The Good Men Do."
Some more far-flung theories go even further, involving things like Templars and Assassins, right back to the Sumerian empire. But I try to not think Star Trek had anything to do with Dan Brown and Assassin's Creed, well, just not yet. (apart from the memories the Preservers implanted in all of us...) :P
Long story short, NSA being a primordial S31 is truer than you think. It is however only one stem; S31 for Humans evolved from Black Ops organizations across the entire Earth Federation Space Force, so there's also anything from Taskforce 131 to Speznatz to Israeli commandoes to god-knows what else deployed during the Eugenics Wars.
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Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though. JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
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'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
To me, two facts eliminate any equivalency. First, the fact that the average person knows of the NSA by name and the general gist of its activities. Second, the fact that there is--albeit classified--government oversight of its operations. It is strongly implied in Trek that Section 31 is completely rogue: neither known to the average citizen nor even known to or controlled by the Federation's government.
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The NSA would be more analogous to signals-gathering division of Starfleet Intelligence, only much less intelligent than the Starfleet version.
Section 31 is one of those super-duper-ultra-top-secret groups with their headquarters in an abandoned warehouse in Maryland that syphon their funds out of the Social Security system and employ only psychopaths and all only seem to exist in Robert Ludlum novels.
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If Section 31 hired a bunch of college drop outs for data gathering, and it was run by a bunch of corner cutting morons. Then, yes. I can see the similarities.:P
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The NSA goes through everyone's garbage, but doesn't actually know what to do with it other than help encourage audits of people they don't like and leak stuff for political advantage, and get their security breached by a 20-something script kiddie with delusions of grandeur.
Don't insult Section 31 like that.
section 31 is the opposite. no one knows they're there, everyone wants to keep it that way. except for bashir, blabber mouth. ruining our op-
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So they're a wannabe Section 31? I can see that.....
I could see that too.
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Some more far-flung theories go even further, involving things like Templars and Assassins, right back to the Sumerian empire. But I try to not think Star Trek had anything to do with Dan Brown and Assassin's Creed, well, just not yet. (apart from the memories the Preservers implanted in all of us...) :P
Long story short, NSA being a primordial S31 is truer than you think. It is however only one stem; S31 for Humans evolved from Black Ops organizations across the entire Earth Federation Space Force, so there's also anything from Taskforce 131 to Speznatz to Israeli commandoes to god-knows what else deployed during the Eugenics Wars.
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Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
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Section 31 is one of those super-duper-ultra-top-secret groups with their headquarters in an abandoned warehouse in Maryland that syphon their funds out of the Social Security system and employ only psychopaths and all only seem to exist in Robert Ludlum novels.
...Oh, baby, you know, I've really got to leave you / Oh, I can hear it callin 'me / I said don't you hear it callin' me the way it used to do?...
- Anne Bredon