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macroniusmacronius Member Posts: 2,526
Okay,

The gauntlet is thrown down and I challenge the best players to share their secrets to the most over-the-top, obscenely powerful build with top DPS. PvE is the only concern here and max DPS. Please share, build, skill points, boffs, doffs and and anything else that comes to mind. ACT logs / screenshots are recommended but anyone can post their build.

Since my tac / vesta can only manage around 13 - 15K DPS, I won't bother posting mine. Also, this isn't an underhanded attempt to steal your PvP secrets btw ... since it is only for PvE.

Come on share ... and help your fellow captain. :D
"With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censored, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably."

- Judge Aaron Satie
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  • dahminusdahminus Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    http://skillplanner.stoacademy.com/?build=cantgetbetter_0

    The blank weapon is the quad plasma
    The blank console is the 2p that makes up the quad plasma bonus.

    Remains to be seen if the quad plasma is worth it. If it turns out it isn't then a dc rom plasma in place of the quad and a bio neural infusion console in place of the quad plasma bonus console.

    3 technicians. 1 marion. And a warp core engineer.

    That right there is the top of the top...if there's something better I'd be blown away

    Edit: forgot boffs

    Romulan captain, 4 superior rom operatives. 1 superior infiltrator (one with superior subterfuge((if that exists))
    Chive on and prosper, eh?

    My PvE/PvP hybrid skill tree
  • dahminusdahminus Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    Silly double post...
    Chive on and prosper, eh?

    My PvE/PvP hybrid skill tree
  • bpharmabpharma Member Posts: 2,022
    edited September 2013
    I would switch the cannons to beams and FAW tbh but otherwise good build. It's what my scimi was. Oh and run EptE maybe as it helps get places faster.

    It is through repetition that we learn our weakness.
    A master with a stone is better than a novice with a sword.

    Has damage got out of control?
    This is the last thing I will post.
  • dahminusdahminus Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    bpharma wrote: »
    I would switch the cannons to beams and FAW tbh but otherwise good build. It's what my scimi was. Oh and run EptE maybe as it helps get places faster.

    Aoe was an afterthought, tired of big numbers from aoe....other games consider aoe dps a joke. crazy how sto champions it
    Chive on and prosper, eh?

    My PvE/PvP hybrid skill tree
  • macroniusmacronius Member Posts: 2,526
    edited September 2013
    dahminus wrote: »
    Aoe was an afterthought, tired of big numbers from aoe....other games consider aoe dps a joke. crazy how sto champions it

    Is DEM really worth trading a tac ltc for eng ltc? I mean I could see it for a more balanced durable escort but for top end DPS? I am just curious ... not trying to argue!
    "With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censored, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably."

    - Judge Aaron Satie
  • baudlbaudl Member Posts: 4,060 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    macronius wrote: »
    Is DEM really worth trading a tac ltc for eng ltc? I mean I could see it for a more balanced durable escort but for top end DPS? I am just curious ... not trying to argue!

    i think you are getting a wrong idea of the build...he uses the ltdcmdr engi for the aux2batt build and the DEM and marion doff are just the cherry ontop.
    The DEM enhanced alpha out of cloak with this ship is probably the most deadly alpha you can wish for in STO.
    combined with the PERFECT getaway (shields while cloaked)


    the infiltrator trait is the player version of subterfuge and unique to remans. http://sto.gamepedia.com/Trait:_Infiltrator
    but you can have each of your 5 superior operative romulans have subterfuge...although i think it doesn't stack beyond 2 or so, not sure.

    personally i don't care much about the omega set, but i see it brings some benefits too to offensive builds. Although i'd go with elite fleet shields and 2xpiece assimilated set.
    Go pro or go home
  • dahminusdahminus Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    With aux2bat, there isn't any need for any more tact abilities.

    Also, dem+marion gives proc that increases energy drain resistance by 200% for 8 secs. This makes each canon hit high rather then succumbing to energy drain weakening.

    Also dem simply adds damage to each shot. There was testing done in the dem mechanics thread where the results showed dem continues to add damage even when no shield is present.

    As far as I'm concerned dem is the most powerful boost to straight damage for engineer boff abilities sans eptw
    Chive on and prosper, eh?

    My PvE/PvP hybrid skill tree
  • reginamala78reginamala78 Member Posts: 4,593 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    macronius wrote: »
    Is DEM really worth trading a tac ltc for eng ltc? I mean I could see it for a more balanced durable escort but for top end DPS? I am just curious ... not trying to argue!

    I imagine the DEM itself matters less than the Marion enhancement, particularly since so many PVE targets are shieldless. All that firepower with no drain, and the dual A2B shredding the DEM's otherwise-long cooldown. Its practically DIY Nadion Inversion.
  • makemydayfreepermakemydayfreeper Member Posts: 12 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    Scimitars:
    Ryans Build https://auth.startrekonline.com/#char%28RyanSTO%20Live@Ezri_Carter%29/ship/equipment
    53,7k DPS in ISE: http://oi44.tinypic.com/34ybi4h.jpg

    Current ISE record:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJ7NGSYzTHo
    just ask one of them for their builds, the scimis were around 24-28k.
  • dahminusdahminus Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    Scimitars:
    Ryans Build https://auth.startrekonline.com/#char%28RyanSTO%20Live@Ezri_Carter%29/ship/equipment
    53,7k DPS in ISE: http://oi44.tinypic.com/34ybi4h.jpg

    Current ISE record:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJ7NGSYzTHo
    just ask one of them for their builds, the scimis were around 24-28k.

    It all makes sense now, killing a target while everything is under super alpha strike...

    Great, I thought this was sustained...i was legitimately impressed...

    STO needs a punching dummy with infinite health...Only real way to test sustained dps...burst dps, I feel like such a noob
    Chive on and prosper, eh?

    My PvE/PvP hybrid skill tree
  • tinead51tinead51 Member Posts: 449 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    Dontcha just lurve Epeen threads :rolleyes:
  • dahminusdahminus Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    Not an epeen thread. Op is asking for the best of the best build you can come up with. I don't even own a scimitar. But I understand what would make some above and beyond
    Chive on and prosper, eh?

    My PvE/PvP hybrid skill tree
  • tinead51tinead51 Member Posts: 449 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    dahminus wrote: »
    Not an epeen thread. Op is asking for the best of the best build you can come up with. I don't even own a scimitar. But I understand what would make some above and beyond

    Potatoe,Patartoe,Tomato,Tomarto, whateva.;)
  • telbasta7386telbasta7386 Member Posts: 761 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    dahminus wrote: »
    http://skillplanner.stoacademy.com/?build=cantgetbetter_0

    The blank weapon is the quad plasma
    The blank console is the 2p that makes up the quad plasma bonus.

    Remains to be seen if the quad plasma is worth it. If it turns out it isn't then a dc rom plasma in place of the quad and a bio neural infusion console in place of the quad plasma bonus console.

    3 technicians. 1 marion. And a warp core engineer.

    That right there is the top of the top...if there's something better I'd be blown away

    Edit: forgot boffs

    Romulan captain, 4 superior rom operatives. 1 superior infiltrator (one with superior subterfuge((if that exists))


    It may have already been mentioned, but it looks like you're trying to use that setup on a scimitar.

    The quad plasma set bonus can only be utilized by the ar'kif, as the console that makes up the second half of the two piece set is restricted to tactical warbirds only.
  • bpharmabpharma Member Posts: 2,022
    edited September 2013
    tinead51 wrote: »
    Potatoe,Patartoe,Tomato,Tomarto, whateva.;)

    Greens not your colour.

    On topic: I generally find once you hit a certain amount of dps it tends to only matter if you're either REALLY after some kind of completion time or you have some strange desire to carry 4 other no dps nellies through something.

    Either way make a build get into the 11k channel and be done with pugs. Then realise nothing ever fails any more and we just sucked some/most of the fun out of the game.

    It is through repetition that we learn our weakness.
    A master with a stone is better than a novice with a sword.

    Has damage got out of control?
    This is the last thing I will post.
  • dahminusdahminus Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    K, so it falls into the replacement weapon/console option.

    Is anyone else going to post a build?
    Chive on and prosper, eh?

    My PvE/PvP hybrid skill tree
  • dahminusdahminus Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    bpharma wrote: »
    Greens not your colour.

    On topic: I generally find once you hit a certain amount of dps it tends to only matter if you're either REALLY after some kind of completion time or you have some strange desire to carry 4 other no dps nellies through something.

    Either way make a build get into the 11k channel and be done with pugs. Then realise nothing ever fails any more and we just sucked some/most of the fun out of the game.

    Can I get a try out?
    Chive on and prosper, eh?

    My PvE/PvP hybrid skill tree
  • bpharmabpharma Member Posts: 2,022
    edited September 2013
    I'm not in the channel ironically. I more than qualify on a lot of characters but never been around when an admin is on.

    Try sending a message to topset, I think it's @mikehadfield or something like that. Worst comes to worse just ask in the PublicEliteSTF channel if anyone from 11k is on.

    It is through repetition that we learn our weakness.
    A master with a stone is better than a novice with a sword.

    Has damage got out of control?
    This is the last thing I will post.
  • tksmittytksmitty Member Posts: 173 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    Some guy in a certain chat channel was trash talking all the "low DPS" non-roms and how we should all just stop "Getting in his way" in PvE. He then started bragging about the Scimitar-won 1:30 ISE. I called BS since he would not show proof.

    To the unnamed player, you are still a jerk, but you are correct.
    Current ship/builds:
    KDF Tac: Bortasqu' Tactical
    Fed Tac: Fleet Gal-X

    Keep those big guns a-thunderin'
  • baudlbaudl Member Posts: 4,060 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    dahminus wrote: »
    K, so it falls into the replacement weapon/console option.

    Is anyone else going to post a build?

    not really a reason to, since your build and modifications of it are pretty much as high as you can get. aux2batt scimitar, don't think anything else will get too close to that.
    Go pro or go home
  • rck01rck01 Member Posts: 808 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    Gotta throw my beast into the mix...I present to you the "Purple Avenger 5:"

    http://skillplanner.stoacademy.com/?build=rcktacfahcrevtpve_0

    Good for 12K+ DPS, speed runs (4:42) through ISE, soloing a side in KASE (in < 5:00), and general PvE mayhem.

    And if I swap out the FC consoles for some fleet neutroniums, switch to APO1 and slot BFAW2, it makes a killer PvP Tac cruiser. :)

    RCK
  • bones1970bones1970 Member Posts: 953 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    tksmitty wrote: »
    Some guy in a certain chat channel was trash talking all the "low DPS" non-roms and how we should all just stop "Getting in his way" in PvE. He then started bragging about the Scimitar-won 1:30 ISE. I called BS since he would not show proof.

    To the unnamed player, you are still a jerk, but you are correct.

    Proof:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJ7NGSYzTHo
    I was not the jerk, but i was in the ise 13.30 run.
  • baudlbaudl Member Posts: 4,060 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    bones1970 wrote: »
    Proof:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJ7NGSYzTHo
    I was not the jerk, but i was in the ise 13.30 run.

    he was refering to a run taht only took 1:30 minutes (that is combat duration logged in the parser)

    combat duration of that video is 2:25 minutes, atleast that's what the parsed data says.
    but sure, if 13:30 are left at the timer, you could say the run only took 1:30 minutes.

    No matter how you look at it, it is a very, very fast run.
    Go pro or go home
  • bpharmabpharma Member Posts: 2,022
    edited October 2013
    tksmitty wrote: »
    Some guy in a certain chat channel was trash talking all the "low DPS" non-roms and how we should all just stop "Getting in his way" in PvE. He then started bragging about the Scimitar-won 1:30 ISE. I called BS since he would not show proof.

    To the unnamed player, you are still a jerk, but you are correct.

    What I like about this post is that tksmitty can admit that s/he is wrong but still regard the person as a bit of a jerk. I do hope you don't hold a grudge against the person though if they're quick to say all other factions are pointless or low dps then I think that player is being a tad unfair.

    Sure my non-rom can't beat that rom for killing but they're not so far behind you would call them low-dps. as far as I'm concerned if you are capable of running ISE in less than 4 minutes you have high dps, not as high as some but not low.

    I do think that post shows real maturity that is sorely lacking in the forums and in the game in general.

    FYI I wasn't the player tksmitty is talking about.

    It is through repetition that we learn our weakness.
    A master with a stone is better than a novice with a sword.

    Has damage got out of control?
    This is the last thing I will post.
  • tksmittytksmitty Member Posts: 173 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    I don't even remember that guy's @handle and I have no hard feelings toward anyone.

    I'll be the first to say that is a damn impressive ISE run. I'll end up trying a similar on my JHDC.

    Here is what I run through STFs with. I haven't parsed it myself, but another player said I was hitting 12k with it in ISE.
    Current ship/builds:
    KDF Tac: Bortasqu' Tactical
    Fed Tac: Fleet Gal-X

    Keep those big guns a-thunderin'
  • xxxhellspawnyxxxxxxhellspawnyxxx Member Posts: 195 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    The ISE run was fun, but it was not a milestone. We beat the current record by just 3 seconds. I'd guess it can be done 3-5 seconds faster, with some luck (getting GDF running) and maybe a 5th Scimitar. We use to compare the time that's left on the optional in ISE, CSE and KASE. Total combat time is the way to go in HSE.

    Anyway, all Scimis shown in the video are capable of 30k+ DPS in teams with the average beta-spamming that's so common in DPS-11000 "premades". In the mentioned run we all had somewhere between 22k and 26k, the Recluse got 16k or 17k but was a great asset with it's elite weavers.

    The main problem with DPS is that it mostly depends on the team you're in. The last time I used a Aux2Bat cannon-only Scimi I was totaly disapointed of my / the ships performance. On it's own it could easily reach 20k-24k, but with all that FAW / beta flying around I had a hard time to even aim at some targets and fire more than one volley, leaving me with measly 14k the end. The only non Aux2Bat beam ship that can keep pace with the Scimis raw damage in that environment is an all cannon Kumari.

    Btw. it's sad that Craptic withdrew Terradome. Soloing the space part was a perfect testing ground for both DPS and survivability because it had groups of several opponents and tough boss encounters. Tough in HP, not in firepower. :rolleyes:
  • mouertemouerte Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    http://www.stoacademy.com/tools/skillplanner/?build=mopve02_0

    3 Embassy Tac Boff's with Superior Romulan Operative

    1 Eng Borg Boff

    1 Sci Saurian Boff

    Doff's all Very Rare

    1 Energy weap officer Chance to remove currently applied buffs with beams or
    cannons.

    2 Projectile weap officer for better torp CD time.

    1 Space Warfare Specialist damage VS Borg

    1 Warp Core Engineer Chance of removing all debuffs on use
    of any Emergency Power ability.

    Probably better build out their but it gets the job done good :)
  • masterkeychnk5masterkeychnk5 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    Scimitars:
    Ryans Build https://auth.startrekonline.com/#char%28RyanSTO%20Live@Ezri_Carter%29/ship/equipment
    53,7k DPS in ISE: http://oi44.tinypic.com/34ybi4h.jpg

    Current ISE record:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJ7NGSYzTHo
    just ask one of them for their builds, the scimis were around 24-28k.

    Managed to get 34K in my scimi the other day with a dps run ISE, I'm sure the record can easily be broken with 5 !!! :D
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] I am not Snakie, MT is!
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