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4 Rules to Make Star Wars Great Again .
hawkwing43
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We need to make up rules on how to make Star Trek great again too, at least for the TV market.
The 4 rules to making Star Wars great:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_joDNOpeWWo#t=125
The 4 rules to making Star Wars great:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_joDNOpeWWo#t=125
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.... " Star Wars is a western..." ( great quote )
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---- FIRE EVERYTHING ! ----
2) No mindless plotholes or time travel
3) No emotional vulcans , gods needing starships, alien races we never ever heard about and never from again and no clones of picard running around trying to figure out where not to park.
4 ) And absolutley do not let JJ Abrams direct it or get within 1000 miles of the script set or even the damn interns
2. Don't let Rick Berman touch it again.
3. Don't let JJ Abrams touch it again.
3. Do let Nicholas Meyer run it.
The Rebels were old and griddy because they were Rebels, and The Empire being jerks probably didn't help with upkeep on things they think don't matter but the Empire's stuff was pretty new and shinny.
Depending where they take the new stuff if the Empire still exist or not, and a New Republic is formed I would expect things to be a lot cleaner, or being rebuild.
As for Star Wars being a western, not really, I mean Princesses and Jedi don't really fit that, and evil Empire stuff are not Westerns...unless they are planning to rip Firefly.
now if they make a Han Solo spinoff hell yeah Western all the way .
Don't let George Lucas write or direct. He gets too wrapped up in his own "brilliance", and surrounded by yes-men, so that every idiot idea he has gets pooped directly onto the script. And then he tells the actors to be more wooden. "Faster and more intense" is not direction, George, it's cartoons.
It's not a coincidence that the SW film that is thought of most highly by both fans and critics is The Empire Strikes Back, written by Leigh Brackett and Lawrence Kasdan, and directed by Irv Kershner, from a story idea by George.
For Trek, the one rule is that Berman and Braga are not allowed on the same studio lot as anyone actually involved in the creation or production of the show. On the other hand, if Ira Behr and and Ron Moore aren't too busy...
It is also a fairy tale. The humble farm boy rescues the princess.
Parallels: my second mission for Fed aligned Romulans.
I'd add a 5th rule: romances should not seem wooden. Leading men should not either.
True. But that was also true of The Black Cauldron, and although the book was great, the movie, not so much.
But it is also a hillbilly porno
Humble farm boy rescues princess has sex with her ...she is his sister Euwwwwww
Hayden Christiansen is a surprisingly decent actor if you actually let him act.
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hate to tell you but jj has been tapped to make the new star wars.
btw I noticed your pic, on that show he is the only one I cant stand; he can believe aliens nuked the dinosaurs but doesn't believe majik exist. sorry for the threadjack
Parallels: my second mission for Fed aligned Romulans.
Now that's not really fair. George Lucas is not a bad producer, or even a bad Director, he's simply a bad acting coach, and a mediocre writer. He is a very creative man, a genius even. But the line between genius and madness is razor thin. Love him or hate him, without Lucas, Star Wars simply never would have happened. Neither would have Indiana Jones for that reason. Lucas was willing to take risks and hand jobs over to people that no one ever would have even though of.
The only reason to dislike George Lucas, is that he forgot what he was in the industry for. He lacked people to go up against, and conflict is what creates an interesting story.
Just remember: http://www.cracked.com/funny-2585-george-lucas/
By the time the prequels came out, nobody was telling George "no" any more. And if he still had control of the franchise, there would still be nobody to tell him "no", so along with the brilliance he can create, he would also dump all the stupid TRIBBLE he can create in there too, because he can't tell the difference. (Robert Heinlein once said that this is why all authors should have an editor - it's too hard to chop up your own baby. Read "For We, the Living" and you'll see what he meant.)
Star Trek was originally a good spacey philosophical series... but the lost they philosophy.
Star Wars loosing their touch turns them into any regular run-to-a-mill US movie. Star Trek turning into another action flick will also produce a run-to-a-mill US movie, and heads will roll. They'll roll all over the fact that Star Trek's foundation is philosophy, and a motion picture without a foundation is like a tick without an itch. You just wouldn't get the feeling.
Star Wars does not belong on the fringe. Bespin was incredible. The Death Star was hardly fringe. Star Wars started on a backwater planet because it was the easiest way to introduce the audience to a bigger universe (by letting us take the journey with Luke). Star Wars should span the galaxy, giving us both.
Star Wars is not supposed to be dirty. The rebels are dirty. The Empire is not. The reason that wasn't the case in the prequels is because in the prequels, the good guys weren't the rebels.
And most importantly: Star Wars has always been and should always be a kid's movie.
I don't know why fans have such a hard time with this. I fell in love with Star Wars when it originally hit theaters. I was 5 years old. I was 7 when Empire came out and I was 10 when Jedi came out.
Star Wars had Ewoks, Jawas, R2 and Threepio - all characters designed to appeal to kids.
Star Wars has the single most successful toy tie-in in history.
Star Wars was written specifically to introduce kids to mythology. Lucas has said this many times.
To say that Star Wars should not be for kids betrays the very spirit of Star Wars.
That doesn't mean adults can't enjoy it too, but to say that Star Wars shouldn't be a kid's movie is just silly. The reason we all love Star Wars is because we fell in love with it as kids.
Heads cut off
People being choked to death
People being burned alive
Genocide
Torture
Hints of incest
Slave women wearing skimpy outfits
Mass murder
....yeah, I totally see how they're kids movies.
From the first half of A New Hope alone: Genocide of a Jawa tribe and murder in cold blood of Owen and Beru Lars. Justifiable homicide by a main cast member (Han on Greedo). Last but not least, the Death Star against Alderaan, the state-sanctioned murder of billions just so Tarkin can make a point.
I'm not saying don't show it to kids, just keep it in mind.
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I'm sorry, this isn't my opinion. Star Wars is a kid's movie. Always has been, always will be. George Lucas has stated from the beginning that Star Wars is for the kids. He wrote it to introduce kids to classical mythological tales.
Just because it doesn't sanitize itself and dumb itself down like most modern era kids' movies doesn't mean it's not for kids.
It's only been in the last couple decades that we've decided our kids are too timid to handle things like that.
Star Wars is about the path of the hero and about good triumphing over evil.
Again, I'm very surprised you honestly don't think Star Wars is for kids. Every Star Wars fan I know became a Star Wars fan when they were a kid. When I stood in those insane lines in the 70s and 80s, those lines were full of kids.
And again, Lucas had landed the toy rights before he filmed the first scene.
And again, Lucas has said time and time again that Star Wars was made for kids. He said it when the movies first came out and he's said it constantly ever since.
Then I'm proud to be a 50-year-old kid. And incidentally, I wasn't exactly a clear-eyed toddler when I first started watching the SW films - the first one came out when I was 14, and I wasn't disappointed by an entry (even on rewatching) until seeing The Phantom Plotline at 33.
(When the DVD reissue of the original came out, with the remastered version on one disc and the authentic original cut on another, I let the kids have the newer version to watch and kept the old classic for myself. It still doesn't disappoint, even after three decades plus.)
HAN ALWAYS SHOOTS FIRST!!! :cool::D:cool:
Seriously, i especially liked the part about the force.
Here's an exact quote from George Lucas: "The original film was designed to allow young people to think outside the box. It was designed for 12-year-olds, adolescents, kids who were starting to think outside the box anyway, as a way of saying, 'Let your fantasies run free, because this is the time to do it.'"
I'm not sure how I misinterpreted that.
I'm not suggesting Star Wars is only for kids. In my very first post, I said it was meant for adults to enjoy too.
I'm just saying that the people who made this video are wrong to say that it's not cute. These movies were designed from the start with kids in mind. They just didn't dumb themselves down or sanitize themselves for kids. They all had cute things and they all had harsh things.
And I am a 40 year old who still loves Star Wars, so I'm not suggesting adults can't enjoy the movies. I'm just saying that the heart of Star Wars is to ignite the imaginations of kids... which it did spectacularly.
One: the "childification" of newer Star Wars products (movie reworks, Star Wars Lego and so on). Changes in some things like Han no more shooting greedo first and things like that. But even in the initial release of the first three movies there was also some stuff that where just too childish like the Ewoks, and too much attention on the Droids IMO.
Two: Star Wars V, which is for most ppl (including me) the best of all movies, but yet it is the darkest and most mature one is still a benchmark on how a good Star Wars movie has to be.
I think the truth is somewhere between them, but i think the person making that video has a point, some things shouldn't be explained or even shown.
Things like the force should NOT have been reduced to medichlorians (or however this is spelled), it completely ruined the mystery and greatness of the jedi culture.
Another thing is too much politics. It's clear that the Sith came to power by intrigue, but it shouldn't have been focussed so much on this. I am not a screen Writer but this should have been made different.