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rail-thin un-natural female legs

atreides049atreides049 Member Posts: 6 Arc User
edited September 2013 in The Art of Star Trek Online
when I made my first romulan female toon, I noticed they had some skinny anorexic meth addicted legs with this weird un-natural spacing between the thighs when put in a skirt. no matter what I did in the options, I couldn't correct this. so I assumed it was just how the romulans were supposed to look. my Fed and Klink female toons were fine. however, this past week, I have seen these horrible looking legs start to appear on some costumes on my Fed AND Klink female toons, along with a couple Bridge Officers. I made another account and it seems ALL female toons legs are like this now. I spent a lot of money on zen to buy these costume pieces and slots so my toons look good. now they look like drug addicted walkers of the night. I don't know if this is a bug, that this look was only meant for romulans or not, but it really should be fixed and the character models be put back to what they were BEFORE the legacy of Romulus expansion.

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  • shantavishantavi Member Posts: 129 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    Yeah, its been like that since Season 7 began. I haven't even logged into the game at all after making my first Romulan character, mainly because of this particular bug. It wasn't like that on Tribble when they were testing Season 7, or I wouldn't have put any money down to get the 22nd Century outfit, which was also terribly bugged.

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  • timelord79timelord79 Member Posts: 1,852 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    The new Tribble release notes speak of changes to leg textures for skirt wearing females.
    So a fix might be coming, it is just unclear when exactly.
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  • cerritourugcerritourug Member Posts: 1,376 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    timelord79 wrote: »
    The new Tribble release notes speak of changes to leg textures for skirt wearing females.
    So a fix might be coming, it is just unclear when exactly.

    That fix don not really fix the legs and even worst, brokes the hole bodys:
    I created a demorecord and this is what I got:

    This is on HOLODECK:
    http://imageshack.us/a/img401/3928/xyvs.jpg

    This is on TRIBBLE:
    http://imageshack.us/a/img849/422/l68f.jpg

    Look here: http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=859301
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  • solidneutroniumsolidneutronium Member Posts: 510 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    It's the short skirts, long ones aren't noticeable. The artist didn't flesh out the thighs properly. Take a look at the split skirt and the nurses skirt since they are done correctly/proportionally. Now take a look at the TOS Romulan skirt which is most noticeable. The artist just needs to complete his/her work to fix things.

    This has been an ongoing problem since release, some costume are done correctly and some are haphazard.
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  • centersolacecentersolace Member Posts: 11,178 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    I think it's just a bug. :(
  • futurepastnowfuturepastnow Member Posts: 3,660 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    centersolace wrote: »
    I think it's just a bug. :(

    Nope. It's what they want. Tight pants were only the first. Cryptic's crazy art team has now expanded the anorexia legs to both skirts and loose pants, beginning whenever the Tribble build goes live (probably S8).
  • atreides049atreides049 Member Posts: 6 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    I did notice the difference, I have all those costumes. but heres the thing, some of the costumes I had already made before season 7 were all of a sudden effected. case in point, my formal wear dress that I display a lot. it was fine until about a week ago, then POOF!! there were those mis-shapen legs. I have the same outfit but in a different color that wasn't effected. don't know why its spreading
  • centersolacecentersolace Member Posts: 11,178 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    futurepastnow wrote: »
    Nope. It's what they want. Tight pants were only the first. Cryptic's crazy art team has now expanded the anorexia legs to both skirts and loose pants, beginning whenever the Tribble build goes live (probably S8).

    Seriously? :eek:
  • solidneutroniumsolidneutronium Member Posts: 510 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    Rail thin skirt thighs fixed on tribble
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  • cerritourugcerritourug Member Posts: 1,376 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    solidneutronium wrote: »
    Rail thin skirt thighs fixed on tribble


    They are not, and they also broken the hole body of females, look at this quote:
    rahmie1 wrote: »
    I put together a couple characters side by side views current Vs New Tribble characters.
    The heads are too small the bodies are scrunched up and the legs have thunder thighs with little tiny ankle and calf.

    these are 2 of my character with holodeck and tribble comparisons

    http://i.imgur.com/2C4ziM0.jpg

    http://i.imgur.com/y4uyQIK.jpg

    I hope these changes don't make it to holodeck. It would take way to long to fix my 23 toons I would probably just stop playing and cancel my gold membership
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  • solidneutroniumsolidneutronium Member Posts: 510 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    cerritourug wrote: »
    They are not, and they also broken the hole body of females, look at this quote:
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    The left picture is holodeck and right is tribble. See the thin thighs and massive calves on the left. Now look at the correctly proportioned thighs and calves on the right. Before, no matter what adjustments you made you couldn't make it look like the picture on the right.

    It's fixed, although this initial versions make your toons head tiny and you have to adjust to the maximum for correct proportions. You can now make adjustments to correct unlike before.

    They'll probably make corrections till the final version that goes to holodeck.
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  • wraithshadow13wraithshadow13 Member Posts: 1,728 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    Let's just be honest here, despite the fact there are women working at cryptic, and i'm sure some of the men are married to women as well, Cryptic as a whole, just hasn't really been able to do female bodies all that well or realistically. Granted i've seen some people use the sliders to make them better than the base models, but the chests, have always been awkward especially with the way the shirts look molded on, over in Champions there is this weird neck thing happening sometimes, The legs have always been to skinny (i've always set them to max, pretty much since launch), The newer romulan hair styles looked nicer than the current stuff but all had glaring bald spots, and let's not forget the worst one (IMO) where the skins end terribly at the neck. That last one irks me to no end, but i think that it's just the trill, caitian, and gorn that are full body but even the hands have never been altered by them. It just looks so terrible, especially with all the newer costume pieces that are more open or short sleeved.

    Over all, it's just ridiculous how bad some of these things are or have become. Personally, if i were the guy in charge, i would put the art team on a quality pass to go through and fix the character models, which is something they SHOULD have done when they "completely remade" the Character creator into 2.0 as they called it, when really it was just a new look for the UI. I suppose though with how cryptic does things, compared to how they advertise things, the standards clearly aren't too high in the QA department.


    TL;DR: They should go back and fix/update/improve the character models and creator.
  • cerritourugcerritourug Member Posts: 1,376 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    solidneutronium wrote: »
    It's fixed, although this initial versions make your toons head tiny and you have to adjust to the maximum for correct proportions. You can now make adjustments to correct unlike before.

    If you call a fix a complete destruction of the current character we have, then yes.. is a fix.
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  • solidneutroniumsolidneutronium Member Posts: 510 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    cerritourug wrote: »
    If you call a fix a complete destruction of the current character we have, then yes.. is a fix.
    Yeah, my holodeck character on the left is completely destroyed on my tribble characteron the right. :rolleyes:


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    Relax it's fixed, but they're not done yet.
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  • cerritourugcerritourug Member Posts: 1,376 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    solidneutronium wrote: »
    Relax it's fixed, but they're not done yet.

    Lol.. sure, is fixed..
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  • solidneutroniumsolidneutronium Member Posts: 510 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    cerritourug wrote: »
    Lol.. sure, is fixed..
    You are right my character is completely destroyed on tribble. :rolleyes:

    You just want to complain right.

    Here we have Cryptic actually listening and fixes things and people still complain.

    Sometimes I feel sorry for Cryptic, only for a little bit though.:D
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  • frtoasterfrtoaster Member Posts: 3,352 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    solidneutronium wrote: »
    You are right my character is completely destroyed on tribble. :rolleyes:

    You just want to complain right.

    Here we have Cryptic actually listening and fixes things and people still complain.

    Sometimes I feel sorry for Cryptic, only for a little bit though.:D

    The complaints are to let Cryptic know that their fix has introduced new bugs. Maybe, it looks OK for your character. But take a look at the pictures people have posted in this thread:

    http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=859301&page=3

    In particular, the thighs look too wide in these two pictures:

    http://i.imgur.com/e2msRnW.jpg
    http://i.imgur.com/apA73fs.jpg

    The images you posted only show one character from the back. Try different angles, particularly from the sides. Try adjusting the slider for leg bulk. Try looking at other characters or boffs.

    It seems that the scaling has changed on almost all the body proportions. It's not just that the head is smaller. The neck is thinner, the shoulders are wider, the arms are thinner, the torso is shorter and wider, and the hips are wider. If this change goes live as is, then players will have to manually readjust the proportions on all their female characters and boffs. And it's not just player characters and boffs that are affected: the proportions of female NPCs have changed too.

    Also, note that there were actually two distinct complaints about female legs:

    1. The calves on tight pants are too thin.
    2. The thighs on non-TOS skirts are too thin.

    I think in the previous discussions about female legs being too thin, the distinction between the above two complaints was not made explicit. Because there are actually two groups of players complaining about different things, the change may satisfy one group, but not the other.
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  • solidneutroniumsolidneutronium Member Posts: 510 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    frtoaster wrote: »

    http://i.imgur.com/e2msRnW.jpg
    http://i.imgur.com/apA73fs.jpg

    If you look at these 2 pictures you'll see that the artist used the too thin calves on the pants complaint version on the skirts.

    What I mentioned in the tribble feedback was that this fixes the skirt problem but he/she/artist needs to reduce the sides of the thighs. Possibly 1/3 to 1/2 the current thigh depth/side. The current leg bulk slider ranges on tribble is perfect but the sides of the thighs needs to be reduced.

    Reducing the depth/sides on the thighs could also fix the too thin calves on the tight pants.
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  • frtoasterfrtoaster Member Posts: 3,352 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    solidneutronium wrote: »
    If you look at these 2 pictures you'll see that the artist used the too thin calves on the pants complaint version on the skirts.

    What I mentioned in the tribble feedback was that this fixes the skirt problem but he/she/artist needs to reduce the sides of the thighs. Possibly 1/3 to 1/2 the current thigh depth/side. The current leg bulk slider ranges on tribble is perfect but the sides of the thighs needs to be reduced.

    Reducing the depth/sides on the thighs could also fix the too thin calves on the tight pants.

    I agree that the thighs currently look too thick on Tribble, but the scaling issues with the other body parts also need to be fixed. For all we know, the excessive thigh thickness could be a side effect of the wider hips; that is, the hips are too wide in proportion to the knees, so the scaling of the thighs is off too.
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  • captainbaileycaptainbailey Member Posts: 356 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    seriously? this is what bothers you about the game???? how spread apart a digital woman's legs are? Not serious issues that actually affect gameplay. I would think you guys would be happy about a woman's legs spreading but I'm guessing that's one of the reasons this whole thread is here in the first place.
  • cerritourugcerritourug Member Posts: 1,376 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    captainbailey wrote: »
    seriously? this is what bothers you about the game???? how spread apart a digital woman's legs are? Not serious issues that actually affect gameplay.

    This is a Star Trek game and is also a MMORPG, that stands for Massively multiplayer online role-playing game.
    Yes, believe it or not, ROLE PLAYING is a fundamental part of this game.

    Some enjoy doing STFs once and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again (insert infinitum icon) to gain more dithium and new items to play thouse STFs a bit more faster again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again (insert infinitum icon).

    Some other players enjoy doing something more in this game Star Trek Game.
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  • orangeitisorangeitis Member Posts: 5,222 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    captainbailey wrote: »
    seriously? this is what bothers you about the game???? how spread apart a digital woman's legs are? Not serious issues that actually affect gameplay. I would think you guys would be happy about a woman's legs spreading but I'm guessing that's one of the reasons this whole thread is here in the first place.
    People play games for different reasons! More news at 11. ;)
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