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Critical Special Powers Denied to KDF
jjgrands420
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There are a few powers that can ONLY be used by the federation. They are extreme and unmatched in efficacy by any comparison to anything kdf has.
1: Team fortress: Total bleedthrough prevention for your entire team and flat (overcap)reduction to TOTAL teams shield dmg taken.
2. Nebula t3 console grants stealth detection up to 20km (with no visual >> this is how it happened to you....)
3. Vesta Bubble 100% kin dmg immunity(with blowback). klink ships have no nearly equivalent special
The federation player will cry what is op and what isnt. They are the noobs, but this ^^ is the truth. Any of you long time kdf players think this is fair? That fed rom can see u, but u cant ever see them? That they can one click save their entire team from alpha!
but they wotn talk about it cus they dont want you to know about it.
what say you dev? time for class action lawsuit against cryptic i think. we pay the same fees, we play the same game, why is one faction SO HEAVILY PENALIZED
i wont feed craptic more money becus they have made fed roms the only viable pvp toon. I will not let this die. Equality among factions. or lawsuit.
1: Team fortress: Total bleedthrough prevention for your entire team and flat (overcap)reduction to TOTAL teams shield dmg taken.
2. Nebula t3 console grants stealth detection up to 20km (with no visual >> this is how it happened to you....)
3. Vesta Bubble 100% kin dmg immunity(with blowback). klink ships have no nearly equivalent special
The federation player will cry what is op and what isnt. They are the noobs, but this ^^ is the truth. Any of you long time kdf players think this is fair? That fed rom can see u, but u cant ever see them? That they can one click save their entire team from alpha!
but they wotn talk about it cus they dont want you to know about it.
what say you dev? time for class action lawsuit against cryptic i think. we pay the same fees, we play the same game, why is one faction SO HEAVILY PENALIZED
i wont feed craptic more money becus they have made fed roms the only viable pvp toon. I will not let this die. Equality among factions. or lawsuit.
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not on my watch, should have made romulan a unique faction. i wont be paying double for what i already have on klingon allied rom, wotn make an identical toon, to make one build thtat can only be made fed side. good for you if thats ur style. somethign tells me ur not a klink at all, wrong forum section again?
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They're "nice to have" but not "critical".
What else can I say besides that this thread serves no purpose except rant a bit.
HEC (Armitage), MVAE (Prometheus), Assault R (Regent), TER (Defiant), Andorian pack, Vesta Pack, Nebula, Excelsior and probably a bunch more I forgot give a discount on the Fleet ship. For example I can buy a Regent, get a great Torpedo and a garbage console but I also get a discount on the Fleet version and I can fly the Refit until my Fleet gets access.
Klingons have 1 Ship that offers a discount. The B'Rel.
We have fewer ships and we have to pay more for the Fleet versions.
Not to mention almost every Fed ship is available in Fleet flavours. KDF have multiple holes in their line up for Fleet versions.
Why is there no 5 Tac console Raptor? We got 2 unused models, The Romulans have ships with 5 Tac Consoles and Battle Cloak.
At the end of the day 3 abilities aren't that big of a deal when we have a few the Feds don't have access to. But the ship thing annoys me more. It wouldn't be hard to make a new Fleet Raptor, I think we'd all be patient if it came out and the Fleet skin was coming in a few weeks.
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We have two (still too little, I know) you forgot the Varanus.;)
The issue with that now is that the Feddies can get battlecloak and frigate pets by rolling a Fed-Rom, without ever having to do anything KDF-wise. Aceton Assimilators will probably be peddled away to the Federation faction in a lockbox at some point.
The reason why people generally say 'roll a KDF' is because the KDF has precious few exclusives left, and we're tired of seeing them peddled off to the Feddies. We'd rather people rolled a KDF toon to use these cool toys rather than just demanding greedily that they be given it.
But I can just as easily roll 6 KDF-roms and combine their insane account-wide ship advantage with the KDF's access to excellent doff missions, Elite fleet weapons, and account-wide haxx consoles.
The KDF don't need those special powers. They only need to reroll Romulan.
Brilliant game design, Cryptic. Or should I say, PWE, because this pattern has been seen in Jade Dynasty, Perfect World, Forsaken World, Clash of the Immortals...
I knew that one day, I would have to face the same PWE TRIBBLE I was trying to escape from all these years... :rolleyes:
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Really? Lawsuit? Good luck with that....
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Otherwise, all I see is a boatload of whining & moaning. In my opinion, each faction SHOULD have stuff that the other faction cannot EVER get. Embrace the uniqueness, and instead of crying that those abilities or items need to be "shared or eliminated", how about, "Let's ask for more and varied ways to make each faction unique and fun to play"?
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So...'OP' Klingon cloaks are bad, but Romulan BCs are perfectly ok?
Honestly I don't seriously care one way or the other (done every career for every faction so have it all anyways). Staying loyal to a single faction is a choice players make for good or for ill. I just find it funny that when Fed-only players throw a screaming fit, 'broaden your horizons' is a popular response to such self-important people. Same logic applies here, whether the OP's HUD is blue, red, or green.
Also I don't see these as ''critical'' I have managed just fine without them all this time and many a Fed has gone down to my disruptors without these trinkets.
I totally forgot that.
Feds had far more ship Variety than Klingons ever had, we got Cloaks but 1 Raptor with 3 Tac BOFFs compared to more balanced Fed ships like the Patrol and Advanced. I'm not even talking now I'm talking day 1 of this game.
Embrace the uniqueness? Carrier play was once unique to Klingons, Feds have more T5 Carriers than we do.
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That's some fine talk there, too bad it doesn't reflect STO history. The last two years have seen the homogenization of the KDF and Federation factions, to the benefit of the Federation. The Federation now has cheap, easy access to all but one of the KDF's best universal consoles (and that last one will likely be peddled off eventually). And, wouldn't you know it, they love to spam these consoles too, despite whining about the KDF doing it.
Pointing to the in-built standard cloaks as 'OP' is an old, tired argument that convinces nobody, ESPECIALLY since a number of KDF ships paid for this advantage (raptors have lower shield mods, screwed-up turn axes, and thus lower turn rates). The standard cloak was NEVER 'OP' in PvP, for example, because it was merely a first-strike advantage. . .and any half-way competent team would be able to overcome that with cross-healing and quick reflexes/focus fire. The battlecloak was arguably 'OP', except it was on the friggin KDF BoP, a particularly squishy ship with lower potential for firepower than escorts/raptors. Now that a superior battlecloak is available via Romulan ships (which are also superior, especially because of those boff traits), NOW the battlecloak is 'OP'. . .on Romulans.
Lastly, now the Fed-bears can have their cake and eat it too by rolling a Romulan and getting essentially EVERYTHING the KDF offered in the past without ever having to dirty their hands with the stinky KDF faction. Now there's almost no reason to play as KDF, gameplay-wise, aside from roleplay and doffing.
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You just really don't understand the law do you?
Anyway, seeing as how what you wish will never happen.
Good luck with that lawsuit.
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NOT for older Players, when I started we were still forced to play as a feddy bear before we could make a Klingon. so been there done that and left for a reason. don't like them.
and id be A OK with them having their own special op consoles or powers if and only if we had ours to ourselves. instead of every time we get a decent item it ends up in a lock box that the feds can get just because more of them cry about how unfair it is.
so no im not crying it unfair that they have things that we do not have im crying about how unfair it is that when a feddy bear throws a tantrum they keep taking my toys from me and giving it to them.
I just don't think that we are missing that many critical special powers so much as our ships have been neglected in the power creep of the game, our BOffs have been neglected in the power creep of the game, etc etc.
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Kinda shows the hyprocritical slant to all those old "Carriers suck" threads the feds doled out during the time when only the KDF had carriers, huh?
Once the feds got the toys, and more, it went strangely quiet......
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Cross-faction was slated from the beginning when the KDF got thiers first, such was stated by the Devs. They just doled them out slowly in the lock boxes overtime and that has players thinking cross-faction was a whine based event.
You are right though in that factional diversity has gone down the crapper. That unfortunately has also fallen due to lockbox and the most recent additions always seeming OP compared to the last additions in game. Its the power creep.
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Now there is no stopping for it. We just need to adopt, as we always do.
You should not be surprised if there is a "twist in story" by cryptic when Sword of Kahless and/or Bird of Preys are available to Federation.
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And the last... our BoP and Raptors are obsolete and can't complete with newer Fed/Rom ship designs with 5 weapon slots and 5 tac consoles in 1 on 1 situation, that leave the only indigenous ships like the Battle Cruisers and Carriers that atleast put some fight. but the only thing that carry us to victory in PvP is our Experience like a Professional Army (KDF) vs a Conscripted Army (Fed)