What's the obsession people have with such huge and long nacelles?
I always thought that more advanced Nacelles would become somehow smaller.
This man is just reworking the constitution class to look more modern, nothing else.
Maybe it would have been a good design for the new JJ timeline...
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I'm sorry but NO. There are a few ships from other ST games that can go into STO... things like the Achilles from the Dominion Wars game. Or even the obscure cannon ships like the Raging Queen/Shelley Class or the Yeager or even the Springfield Class.
The ship does look like the TMP version of the Odyssey Class. Like really...
TBH... I doubt also Cryptic will bring out another TMP style ship...
It's a good design except for his mistakes about Warp Drive and the idea of running it on Star Light instead of Matter/Antimatter.
I'm all for a new Warp Core concept much like Romulans have their Singularity Cores but I kind of need a something I can believe will supply sufficient power.
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She to TMPish for modern era, and totally disagree with no red on nacelles. and the pylons are just too long. it has some promise but needs serious work.
It is very pretty, and if he had not shown it along side the Sovereign I would have thought he was showing us a pre production drawing of that ship actually.
Originally Posted by pwlaughingtrendy
Network engineers are not ship designers.
Nor should they be. Their ships would look weird.
It is very pretty, and if he had not shown it along side the Sovereign I would have thought he was showing us a pre production drawing of that ship actually.
While it looks nice, it also looks like it's a thinly disguised version of the "Lexington class" from Klingon Academy with altered nacelles and without the trapezoid impulse engine structure on the saucer.
While it looks nice, it also looks like it's a thinly disguised version of the "Lexington class" from Klingon Academy with altered nacelles and without the trapezoid impulse engine structure on the saucer.
much better than any of the new designs we have in the game now
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It's a lovely ship, I like it. If it were in STO I'd probably own and fly one, I do like the design of this ship. And I tend to agree with the designer about the Enterprise-E, having no neck always stroke me as the fugliest thing about the design, that's why I'm not a fan of the "E".
Getting this in game could be an issue due to liscencing and copyrights, but that doesn't mean that Cryptic shouldn't try. I watched the video and the designer stroke me as a guy who'd love to see this design fly in space, so maybe there's a chance to get it without too much trouble.
So you want to combine the E with the A and make it the size of the F in game.
Um... NO. And we already have the USS Enterprise in game (to say nothing of the horrible mispells I see all the time from players). And since the F hasn't been waxed yet, AND it was supposedly just made, there is no reason to have the G yet.
It is said the best weapon is one that is never fired. I disagree. The best weapon is one you only have to fire... once.
While it looks nice, it also looks like it's a thinly disguised version of the "Lexington class" from Klingon Academy with altered nacelles and without the trapezoid impulse engine structure on the saucer.
Thats is Mod I ssume as I know the Lexington is Constitution class.
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Who said anything about making the Enterprise although the F Oddy shouldn't be either.
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Maybe don't make it a new Enterprise, but this ship is fantastic! Did we really get two fan designed starships (the Odyssey and the Chimera) picked over this? This, or something like it, should replace the horrible, hard to look at, and impractical design of the Chimera class and become the new Starfleet Destroyer, a good hybrid of the Cruiser and Escort ships.
I would love to see this ship implemented at some point. Hell, add some hanger bays to the design and make a carrier, make it a science ship, a cruiser, another destroyer, anything!
We have to reward great ship designers like this guy, and include it somehow, someday.
I think we need a design that's a crossover between the Odyssey and the Constitution.
It should be a little smaller than the Sovereign, faster, organic lines looks to keep it modern. It really needs to stick with the traditional cruiser look that we have all learned to love.
I saw a fan art ship that is like this but cannot find it at the moment.
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I don't like the ship; but I do agree with his thinking about Starfleet design aesthetics. I've always preferred the clean hulls, and off white colours, of the Kirk era ships (though my favourite would be the Oberth, rather than the Connie or Excelsior).
Who says that in game it would need to be the new Enterprise? It could be any new random class of Starfleet cruiser, the ship realy is great and would be a nice asset to STO anyway.
I don't like the ship; but I do agree with his thinking about Starfleet design aesthetics. I've always preferred the clean hulls, and off white colours, of the Kirk era ships (though my favourite would be the Oberth, rather than the Connie or Excelsior).
Me too, although I love the Galaxy class for ex., I've always been a fan of the white hulls and the design philosphy of having 2 pylons on 2 nacelles, stardrive section, neck and a saucer - yes a saucer, not a chevron, not a spearhead but plain old saucer. The neck is also a very important design element to me.
I would love to see this ship implemented at some point. Hell, add some hanger bays to the design and make a carrier, make it a science ship, a cruiser, another destroyer, anything!
Nothing persobal, but really enough with the carriers! This ship is obviously a cruiser, the designer even made blueprints and designed the entire interior of the ship and this is no carrier, it's a pure blue-blood Federation cruiser.
On another note I agree with you that there needs to be a way to implement nice designs like this one in the game, it certainly looks better that many things we see in game.
Maybe don't make it a new Enterprise, but this ship is fantastic! Did we really get two fan designed starships (the Odyssey and the Chimera) picked over this? This, or something like it, should replace the horrible, hard to look at, and impractical design of the Chimera class and become the new Starfleet Destroyer, a good hybrid of the Cruiser and Escort ships.
Did this guy enter the competition? You gotta be in it to win it.
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I do like it, but it is a pretty old fashioned design. The nacelles and pylons would probably need to be updated to fit more with STO's 'modern' designs.
While it certainly does carry the.. "Aura of Majesty".. of a big Federation cruiser/flagship, I'm not really sure where it would fit in with the current ship lineup in the game. I can't help but think that it would be rendered redundant between the Regent, Excelsior and Ambassador. It would likely be heresy to the creator, but perhaps it could work as a new series of Federation Dual Cannon-capable cruiser? (The photon collector would undoubtably enable it to power some pretty beefy energy weapons.)
Unfortunately you are actually Wrong about the lexington been 1709. The Original one was but there have been 2 others with different NCC numbers Which is common for starfleet. A new ship is usualy built and it will have a completely new NCC number to a past ship baring the same name. The Enterprise is a rare exception to this in the fact they all share the 1701 number. Here are the other Two from the Star Trek.com official site.
Unfortunately you are actually Wrong about the lexington been 1709. The Original one was but there have been 2 others with different NCC numbers Which is common for starfleet. A new ship is usualy built and it will have a completely new NCC number to a past ship baring the same name. The Enterprise is a rare exception to this in the fact they all share the 1701 number. Here are the other Two from the Star Trek.com official site.
You forget Yamato. She was 1305-E. The writers and designers just got lazy and not look at previous incarnations. truly a ship should have the same number for registry no matter what.
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And let's not even get into Copyright, and licensing, and Lawyers...and blah blah blah
And yeah, we already have an Enterprise.
HOWEVER
I don't like it and much prefer the design of D and E
F NEEDS mega work tbh
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I always thought that more advanced Nacelles would become somehow smaller.
This man is just reworking the constitution class to look more modern, nothing else.
Maybe it would have been a good design for the new JJ timeline...
The ship does look like the TMP version of the Odyssey Class. Like really...
TBH... I doubt also Cryptic will bring out another TMP style ship...
I'm all for a new Warp Core concept much like Romulans have their Singularity Cores but I kind of need a something I can believe will supply sufficient power.
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My thoughts exactly.
I ma just going through a TOS/TMP withdraw and seeing phaser fired in that era.
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Originally Posted by pwlaughingtrendy
Network engineers are not ship designers.
Nor should they be. Their ships would look weird.
While it looks nice, it also looks like it's a thinly disguised version of the "Lexington class" from Klingon Academy with altered nacelles and without the trapezoid impulse engine structure on the saucer.
http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20060818020141/startrek/images/4/43/USS_Lexington-1.jpg
http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20060818021338/startrek/images/6/65/USS_Lexington-2.jpg
i take that over his design but wrong era for game.
much better than any of the new designs we have in the game now
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Getting this in game could be an issue due to liscencing and copyrights, but that doesn't mean that Cryptic shouldn't try. I watched the video and the designer stroke me as a guy who'd love to see this design fly in space, so maybe there's a chance to get it without too much trouble.
Um... NO. And we already have the USS Enterprise in game (to say nothing of the horrible mispells I see all the time from players). And since the F hasn't been waxed yet, AND it was supposedly just made, there is no reason to have the G yet.
Thats is Mod I ssume as I know the Lexington is Constitution class.
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Who said anything about making the Enterprise although the F Oddy shouldn't be either.
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You did:
The only Starfleet name to ever have that many lettered incarnations is the Enterprise.
The images posted are of the Lexington class, not the TOS era U.S.S. Lexington.
Just by the by, there was a Nebula class Lexington too. She fought at the second battle of Sector 001.
I would love to see this ship implemented at some point. Hell, add some hanger bays to the design and make a carrier, make it a science ship, a cruiser, another destroyer, anything!
We have to reward great ship designers like this guy, and include it somehow, someday.
It should be a little smaller than the Sovereign, faster, organic lines looks to keep it modern. It really needs to stick with the traditional cruiser look that we have all learned to love.
I saw a fan art ship that is like this but cannot find it at the moment.
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Me too, although I love the Galaxy class for ex., I've always been a fan of the white hulls and the design philosphy of having 2 pylons on 2 nacelles, stardrive section, neck and a saucer - yes a saucer, not a chevron, not a spearhead but plain old saucer. The neck is also a very important design element to me.
Nothing persobal, but really enough with the carriers! This ship is obviously a cruiser, the designer even made blueprints and designed the entire interior of the ship and this is no carrier, it's a pure blue-blood Federation cruiser.
On another note I agree with you that there needs to be a way to implement nice designs like this one in the game, it certainly looks better that many things we see in game.
Did this guy enter the competition? You gotta be in it to win it.
If I ask you a question it is not an insult but a genuine attempt to understand why.
When I insult you I won't be discreet about it, I will be precise and to the point stupid.
While it certainly does carry the.. "Aura of Majesty".. of a big Federation cruiser/flagship, I'm not really sure where it would fit in with the current ship lineup in the game. I can't help but think that it would be rendered redundant between the Regent, Excelsior and Ambassador. It would likely be heresy to the creator, but perhaps it could work as a new series of Federation Dual Cannon-capable cruiser? (The photon collector would undoubtably enable it to power some pretty beefy energy weapons.)
What is the resistry of that ship than?
Even they get wrong
http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/USS_Lexington_%28Nebula_class%29
NCC-61832"
That is not the Lexington with that registration #.It really makes me question the authenticity of that site.
The Offical site
http://www.startrek.com/boards-topic/33303848/Starship-Lexington-NCC-1709_1195531636_33303848
USS Lexington NCC 1709.
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Unfortunately you are actually Wrong about the lexington been 1709. The Original one was but there have been 2 others with different NCC numbers Which is common for starfleet. A new ship is usualy built and it will have a completely new NCC number to a past ship baring the same name. The Enterprise is a rare exception to this in the fact they all share the 1701 number. Here are the other Two from the Star Trek.com official site.
http://www.startrek.com/database_article/lexington-u-s-s-ncc-1709 - Constitution-class seen in TOS
http://www.startrek.com/database_article/lexington-u-s-s-ncc-14427 - Excelsior-class Seen in TNG
http://www.startrek.com/database_article/lexington-u-s-s-ncc-61832 - Nebula-class Seen in DS9
You forget Yamato. She was 1305-E. The writers and designers just got lazy and not look at previous incarnations. truly a ship should have the same number for registry no matter what.