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Stop rearraning my department heads!

predconpredcon Member Posts: 478 Arc User
edited September 2013 in PC Gameplay Bug Reports
I know it's a cosmetic issue, but it's one that bugs me a lot. I'll say it again, it ruins the level of immersion for me when the game is constantly setting the DOFF Department Heads to whatever it feels like (there's a consistency to whom it chooses to assign to which department, but it's never whom I've set there). A 'lock station choices' feature would be nice.
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  • pacelli1pacelli1 Member Posts: 266 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    Good luck. This one comes and goes for me. Everything will be fine for a while then BLAMO. Right now, I have no Operations or Engineering head - and cannot set one!
  • geekasylumgeekasylum Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    Hear Hear! This one bugs me as well. For now Ive given up assigning department heads. It only re-organises them again the next time I log in.
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  • shevetshevet Member Posts: 1,667 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    As near as I can figure out, whenever I go into a ground map, the system looks for my department heads and sets them - looking, not at my list of bridge officers, but at my current (or most recent) away team.

    If I've just been to a map which only allows one boff companion, like New Romulus... that's the only one it finds. And department head slots for which that boff isn't eligible, don't get filled.

    It doesn't actually affect gameplay, but I do find it hugely annoying. (A recent patch did pull the camera back from the department heads' faces... so we get a better view of the wrong officers... if that fix made the to-do list, surely we can hope for a fix to this issue?)

    The problem does have some real consequences - in single-boff maps it can mess up your away team; more than one I've tried to enter one of the New Romulus missions to find that, instead of my normal away team, I've got my single companion boff and three security guards.
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  • eazzieeazzie Member Posts: 4,229 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    Ok agreed it is annoying, just like a bug you can not seem to be able to swat, but it isn't breaking the game. There are a few more serious issues that need, or able being tackled at the moment.

    it's just a case of living with it
  • yreodredyreodred Member Posts: 3,527 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    predcon wrote: »
    I know it's a cosmetic issue, but it's one that bugs me a lot. I'll say it again, it ruins the level of immersion for me when the game is constantly setting the DOFF Department Heads to whatever it feels like (there's a consistency to whom it chooses to assign to which department, but it's never whom I've set there). A 'lock station choices' feature would be nice.

    Yeah, it's really annoying to see your officers being reset to other stations all the time.

    I support this.
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  • pacelli1pacelli1 Member Posts: 266 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    shevet wrote: »
    As near as I can figure out, whenever I go into a ground map, the system looks for my department heads and sets them - looking, not at my list of bridge officers, but at my current (or most recent) away team.

    If I've just been to a map which only allows one boff companion, like New Romulus... that's the only one it finds. And department head slots for which that boff isn't eligible, don't get filled.

    It doesn't actually affect gameplay, but I do find it hugely annoying. (A recent patch did pull the camera back from the department heads' faces... so we get a better view of the wrong officers... if that fix made the to-do list, surely we can hope for a fix to this issue?)

    The problem does have some real consequences - in single-boff maps it can mess up your away team; more than one I've tried to enter one of the New Romulus missions to find that, instead of my normal away team, I've got my single companion boff and three security guards.

    Your observations lead me to where the problem probably lies. I've noticed that the "Charlie's Angels" shot on the loader screen sets the BOFFS based on your Away Team set up. I think this problem has existed every since the "Charlie's Angels" addition. I would rather they got rid of that, if it would fix the problem.
  • pacelli1pacelli1 Member Posts: 266 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    eazzie wrote: »
    Ok agreed it is annoying, just like a bug you can not seem to be able to swat, but it isn't breaking the game. There are a few more serious issues that need, or able being tackled at the moment.

    it's just a case of living with it

    As someone who works in, and actually cares about, customer service, this is not acceptable. To quote the 57th Rule of Acquisition, "Good customers are as rare as latinum -- treasure them." You don't ignore them, and they shouldn't stand for it when they are.
  • nrobbiecnrobbiec Member Posts: 959 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    Who's assigned to the main away team doesn't have any effect on it. Tovan Khev used to keep popping up despite it but that stopped. Away team does affect bridges though - only your away team have a chance of showing up, but it's mostly random unnamed npcs that show up, Romulan bridge is the worst for this as only one away team and Tovan Khev appear on the bridge. This bugs with department heads and bridges has been around since LoR launched so that says a lot.
  • sander233sander233 Member Posts: 3,992 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    shevet wrote: »
    As near as I can figure out, whenever I go into a ground map, the system looks for my department heads and sets them - looking, not at my list of bridge officers, but at my current (or most recent) away team.

    If I've just been to a map which only allows one boff companion, like New Romulus... that's the only one it finds. And department head slots for which that boff isn't eligible, don't get filled.

    It doesn't actually affect gameplay, but I do find it hugely annoying. (A recent patch did pull the camera back from the department heads' faces... so we get a better view of the wrong officers... if that fix made the to-do list, surely we can hope for a fix to this issue?)

    The problem does have some real consequences - in single-boff maps it can mess up your away team; more than one I've tried to enter one of the New Romulus missions to find that, instead of my normal away team, I've got my single companion boff and three security guards.

    It's even worse than you think.

    The way your Boffs stand in your Charlie's Angels poster screen? It's based not on something simple like the order you have them in your away team, but on when they joined your crew.

    I had to fire and rehire and retrain three different people to get my sig screenshot. And purple science Klingon BOffs are damned expensive!
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  • eazzieeazzie Member Posts: 4,229 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    pacelli1 wrote: »
    As someone who works in, and actually cares about, customer service, this is not acceptable. To quote the 57th Rule of Acquisition, "Good customers are as rare as latinum -- treasure them." You don't ignore them, and they shouldn't stand for it when they are.

    Me. Customer Service Manager for 5 years, for a Department store. To date 12 awards won from commendation either by co workers or public. NAH NAH NAH NAH NAH LOL :P
  • pacelli1pacelli1 Member Posts: 266 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    eazzie wrote: »
    Me. Customer Service Manager for 5 years, for a Department store. To date 12 awards won from commendation either by co workers or public. NAH NAH NAH NAH NAH LOL :P

    So, little or no chance of you working for PW/C any time soon then, huh? :rolleyes:
  • eazzieeazzie Member Posts: 4,229 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    pacelli1 wrote: »
    So, little or no chance of you working for PW/C any time soon then, huh? :rolleyes:

    :( Nah, they have the best as it is (Brandon as CM too awesome for words, askray and bluegeek too funny for words)
  • hanoverhanover Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    Are we positive this has no effect on gameplay? Don't those department heads drive the suggested DOFFs for duty assignments?

    Even if not, it would be better to just omit the function than push something out that obviously received zero QA testing.
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  • crusty8maccrusty8mac Member Posts: 1,381 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    nrobbiec wrote: »
    Who's assigned to the main away team doesn't have any effect on it. Tovan Khev used to keep popping up despite it but that stopped. Away team does affect bridges though - only your away team have a chance of showing up, but it's mostly random unnamed npcs that show up, Romulan bridge is the worst for this as only one away team and Tovan Khev appear on the bridge. This bugs with department heads and bridges has been around since LoR launched so that says a lot.

    I still get Tovan promoting himself from latrine duty to First Officer, Head of Tactical and Security. I blame him.
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  • eazzieeazzie Member Posts: 4,229 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    crusty8mac wrote: »
    I still get Tovan promoting himself from latrine duty to First Officer, Head of Tactical and Security. I blame him.

    Yep if all else fails blame the Rommies:rolleyes:
  • crusty8maccrusty8mac Member Posts: 1,381 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    I don't blame all Romulans, just that @#$%, Tovan.
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  • teidi01teidi01 Member Posts: 6 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    hanover2 wrote: »
    Are we positive this has no effect on gameplay? Don't those department heads drive the suggested DOFFs for duty assignments?

    Even if not, it would be better to just omit the function than push something out that obviously received zero QA testing.



    I think the problem is game breaking...and it is related to two other problems relating to BOFFS:

    1. The way boffs and what boffs show on your ship bridges

    2. The lack of a bridge officer showing during FIRST CONTACT MISSIONS....making them impossible to play and therefore...BROKEN since the expansion.

    Until a moderator comes to the forum stating that these problems are not related i will have this theory.
  • jim625jim625 Member Posts: 907 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    I really want the department heads fixed NOW!! it's driving me insane :mad:
  • orangeitisorangeitis Member Posts: 5,222 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    eazzie wrote: »
    There are a few more serious issues that need, or able being tackled at the moment.
    Yes, like killing Tovan Khev.
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