I'll just leave
This here. This is my permanent response to the Elitists, as well as just an amusing video. Feel free to comment as you like and check out more videos by these guys.
And no, this is not a flame, however the video brings a valid point that applies to more then Battlefield.
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watch the video. Its to show how ridiculous and funny elitism with any platform is. The part of it that's my permanent response is when the Assault says: "Grow the **** up, its still Battlefield, whether you play on PC or on the console it's still Battlefield and ya' know what we all play this because we love Battlefield Right?" *others agree* "I mean c'mon its not like where playing some Call Of Duty Game or something (The Irony being they're being elitists about Battlefield Vs Call of Duty here)." My point is what the assault says is my response to Elitists.
Some of BFF's other videos:
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Plus I guess I would agree with them, MMOs don't translate well to consoles. They just don't, I don't think STO has any place on the PS4.
Kirk's Protege.
OP has their opinion. We have ours. Just agree to disagree and leave it at that.
real cool guy eh ?
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I'll not enter this discussion about PC or consoles either.
But for me, STO require too much commands and interaction that only a keyboard and a mouse can provide.
"If we're going to be damned, let's be damned for what we really are." - Jean-Luc Picard
PC's are inherently more powerful, upgradeable and mostly interchangeable.
Consoles are not..
Leave STO off the console..take your little hand paddles somewhere else.
Thanks
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Anyway, want to play STO on PS4 ? Plug your computer to your TV, plug a pad, start STO. Enjoy !
Regardless of your own feelings of superiority (elitism) of a console which hasn't been released yet it's more than likely never coming to console whether is be X Box, PS, Wii or whatever and it's not a question of which is better it just didn't and still doesn't work as a business model.
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I see what you did there
Again, Watch the Video. I didn't make it, it clearly says it was made by Machinnima and Happy Hour, which I am neither of. Thats how I know you didn't even watch it. I could have put a rick roll video and you wouldn't know.
*Edit* hmmm now that i think about it.
Because I would probably have to play with these guys during E-STFs etc ... "Hit the Nanite Spheres with Gravity Well ..." - "Ok just wait 10min" :P
PS : Watched the video ... it's just stupid ... enjoying "Fun" - games like GTA on consoles as well ... but would never play MMOs or RTS etc on a console ... so not sure whats your point, besides "I don't like PC Games, because everyone playing them is an arrogant dipsh...."
I did watch it. A load of guys sitting round talking about how different the game is and the voice of reason eventually saying that it's just a game and people should get on with playing it. It ends talking about how TRIBBLE Call of Duty is in comparison.
What you don't seem to realise is that in the video that you posted (or your video for the purposes of the discussion, to clarify for the less able to comprehend) you are represented by the noob who keeps throwing grenades and is arbitrarily hating on PC users and the "crowded" graphics. An argument that makes no sense at all.
Fact is, it's not Battlefield and it's not coming to console. It was never here to start with, so your crappy comparison doesn't apply because there is no console version to be elitist about.
You need to find a better outlet for that rather than baiting and trolling the forums with this anti computer garbage continually.
hehe....very entertaining reply indeed
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What you don't realize is I don't hate all PC users, I just hate the ones who think they're superior to everyone else because they play PC (Hence the one in the video). I play all systems, but I prefer my console for many things. Don't assume simply because I dream about STO on Consoles that I hate PC. its like BFF's admitted in the video, Consoles have less frames then PC but each platform has drawbacks. The purpose of the video, and this thread (besides stating my stance towards elitism no matter the platform) was to poke fun at Elitism of each Platform, not to start a new argument. So enjoy the video. :cool:
On a different note, anyone else excited for the next Battlefield installment?
Price? I can build a competent gaming PC for the same price as a console and TV.
Controls? Mouse is both more precise and faster than analog sticks. Keyboard has a lot more controls available than 4-6 buttons and 4 shoulders. Keyboard controls can be operated by one hand instead of needing both to stabilize the controller. If you REALLY prefer a controller, though, they're all USB - you can plug your favorite controller flavor into the PC and play with it. You can't do the reverse - you can only plug USB keyboards into consoles to TYPE with, not to actually play a game.
Graphics? PC graphics are always superior to console graphics. Consoles are obsolete by the time they are barely in stores. They then go through several years of software updates and mediocre titles before the next hardware revision. Your PC, so long as it's not using an integrated graphics solution, starts with more graphics horsepower. It's also capable of higher resolutions, multi-monitor gaming, etc.
Processing Power? PC again. Don't even need to explain why, just look at the previous argument.
Upgrading? For consoles, you can only buy accessories. For PC, if you want more speed/power/coolness, you replace the requisite part(s). Need better graphics performance? Buy a new video card. System lagging? Probably need more RAM or a faster CPU. Easy to buy, easy to install, and cheaper than replacing the whole console.
Portability? Gaming laptop. You lose a lot of the upgradability (though you can still upgrade the RAM, HDD space, and in a few cases the video card), but it comes as an entirely self-contained unit. You can't do that with a console because you still need a TV.
Game Distribution Options? PC again. Consoles get 2 choices: physical copies or the console brand's digital store. With a PC, you get physical copies, Steam, Origin, GMG, GOG, Amazon Digital Distribution, Direct2Drive, direct-from-the-developer.....
Game Updates? Console developers have to pay licensing fees for every update they want to deploy. Consequently, many developers or publishers let bugs stay for MONTHS before fixing them, or sometimes even just abandon a game rather than spend some of their profit revenue to fix their shoddy product. PCs don't have these licensing fees, all updates/patches are free to distribute.
I'm sure there's more reasons someone might come up with, but I'll be able to answer them as they come. This is just a starting list to show you, categorically, why PCs really are the superior platform. This is not hate, this is simply a presentation of fact.
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You're failing to provide quantifiable (or unarguable) evidence to support your position. That's why it's an opinion.
carry on.
rofl.
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....what do you know...it works !
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Forum rule: Trolling is bad, m'kay?
got caught up in the whole PC is better than console fad that this thread is about .....
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Found this on Gamefaq's:
"Pros of playing on the PC:
Mods - You basically have unlimited DLCs. Download new UIs, graphic enhancement mods, add mounts, quests, music, etc.
Better graphics - Newer PCs will potentially see some increased performance and visual quality
Customization - Tailor your gaming experience to fit your play style with video settings, control settings, audio settings and mods
Largest Control Variety - You can use a Keyboard/Mouse and any other peripherals available to the PC. Xbox or PS3 Controllers can also be used with a little bit of work.
Cons of playing on the PC:
Cost - Generally takes a larger initial investment to play games smoothly on the PC
Tweaking/Optimization - May take some tweaking of your video settings and possibly controls to get optimal performance
Some maintenance (patches, drivers) can be expected.
Pros of playing on the Console:
Little or no Initial Setup - Plug and Play
Convenient - Sofa Gaming
Assured Performance Consistency - Skyrim is likely to run well on consoles because developers know the exact hardware specifications they are designing for.
Achievements/Trophies --- I disagree with this one, as long as you have Steam you generally have Achievements, not that having them or not is a big deal.
Consoles are generally the first to get official DLCs
Cons of playing on the Console:
No ability for Advanced Video settings (in game).
No mod support.
Locked to a specific control scheme."
Seems like a pretty good list.
This thread was actually poking fun at Elitism of all platforms, not about PC better then console or console better then PC.
Those are the opinions of one particular site and are pretty generic. A large number of them do not apply to STO or your beloved PS4, are completely subjective and bare little to no relevance in the discussion of whether or not to waste time money and resources to develop something that the majority of players on this forum and I'm willing to bet game neither need nor want.
In neither this or any other thread have you presented any solid argument for porting STO to the PS4 or other next generation console other than it would be convenient for you because you would rather spend the money on that than a new laptop. At least Mac users had a slightly better argument that justifies the Developers working on a port, but we've yet to see and test it's effectiveness.
Well no it's not, you deliberately titled the thread and referenced a video which calls PC players elitists for whatever reason. I've yet to see anything objective or humorous about your own elitism about consoles.
THIS IS NOT ABOUT PORTING STO TO THE FRIKIN PS4, XBOX ONE, PS3, XBOX 360 OR Wii/Wii U.Can not stress this enough, this is not that thread okay. And if you looked I changed the title to a more suitable title, though it seems to have only changed it on the Original post only.
This is the one you should have put, it reminds me of player's on STO and those who may some day play this game.
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Ah yeas teamspeak, the voice chat on STO is awful.