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kalkofen
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Hi the last days i recognized some changes. Superior Romulans Operatives losed 0,5 % CritH.
Today i wanted to test my T'varo and recognized that my torps have now longer the Cooldown reduced. I forget the actual console but i remember that my quantum Torpedos have about 6 sec cooldown and now its 8 sec. I checked the last release notes but cant find anything about that.
Is it just me thinking this is a bit unfair or is it not worth to mention this "minor changes"?
Today i wanted to test my T'varo and recognized that my torps have now longer the Cooldown reduced. I forget the actual console but i remember that my quantum Torpedos have about 6 sec cooldown and now its 8 sec. I checked the last release notes but cant find anything about that.
Is it just me thinking this is a bit unfair or is it not worth to mention this "minor changes"?
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Photons and Rapid Reload Transphasics are the 6s Torpedoes.
The 2P MACO set gives a 5% reduction on cooldowns, this is meant to affect Torpedoes.
Also Projectile DOFFs reduce Torpedo Cooldowns.
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I haven't played my T'varo since the patch, so I don't know if that's true.
If that's true, it's only fair.
No, it's not a flat 2sec cooldown, is 20% of a given projectile's cooldown, and applies to all projectiles (torps, missiles, mines, though not tractor mines seemingly). Just tested it today, still working fine. I did notice that the Description of the 2pc bonus no longer states this 20% reduction however, and it's now "Enhanced Projectile Potency" instead of "Enhanced Projectile Efficiency". Why am I worried about this?
It brings them at least One Step Closer to the semblance of balance that was messed up by these boffs. And by multiple other Romulan-related things.
And the 2 set Bonus is now +10% torp damage.
Its ok to change something but i want to read about that in the Patch log.
How was balance messed up by Romulan BOffs? Fed and KDF players have access to them as well through the Embassy. The Romulan players themselves have a mission with a long cooldown and long duration in order to get them, and the mission itself is rather rare. So I don't know what you're talking about.
Because these boffs make critical hits a rule. With 5 of them stacking, plus some other bonuses, you're sitting at 20%. And it's not just that. Unlike the Embassy boffs, the Republic ones come with two space traits, not just one. Coupled with the Battle Cloak and Singularity Powers, this is just insane. No wonder the arenas have become one big alpha cloakfest.
lol you couldn't be further off the mark
What your saying is that people have gone down the route of alpha cloakfest because of boffs
Of course it has nothing to do with nearly every romulan ship having a battle cloak or anything
singularity powers aren't as great as the crying nerf feds think they are, i much prefer to keep hold of the plus15 to shields than try and maneuver my ship into position to use a glorified GravWell or jam sensors
Uh huh... I still don't see any issues. So you can crit like mad. That's nice. I guess that just means that you have no resistances, since tbh, my ships can still get alpha'd and be fine. Helps to have a pair of neutroniums and a monotanium on. Takes a lot of bite off a lot of things. I do get hit by crits on a relatively regular basis... ok. I just hit an EPtS3 and a TSS2 and all of a sudden... yeah, that's right, I survive.
And tbh, the Romulans need to have things that are exclusively them, that make them unique. Last thing we needed was more clones of the feds. So I approve of the Republic BOffs having two space traits. Makes things more interesting.
As for the alpha cloak-fest you speak of? Um... no, that's not because of BOffs, that's because every Romulan ship under the sun (except for the new temporal ships and their ****tles and runabouts) have battlecloaks. And how is that imbalance? That's just smart gameplay.
Let me give you a hint here: if what you're doing doesn't work anymore (which seems to be the case based on the bmwing you're doing), then adjust your playstyle and find what does work. Heaven forbid YOU have to change. -.-
I'm not talking about ships that don't have any resistance. I'm talking about standard neutronium-fitted ships with EPtS, TSS, Aux2SIF and Tactical Team. But with the double stacking Beam Overloads, Romulan crits will eventually overpower ANY resistance you have, whether it's during the first pass or the third. And good luck fitting two neutroniums and a monotanium on a science ship or escort, not mentioning an EPtS3.
I'm not arguing against Battle Cloak. Hell, Klingons have been doing decloak alphas forever. But for their ships to be able of such feat, they always had to sacrifice something, be it hull or shields. But the Romulans? In addition to the Battle Cloak, they have Singularity Powers (Singularity Jump being the most useful) and boffs that enhance both CritH and damage output after decloak.
They have to hit hard and fast to be effective.
He told us, that there where minor Chances that aren't mentioned in the Release Notes or even told in a Forum Thread.
So perhabs it would be good if Cryptic relaunches the Dev Forum thread so we can discuss with them and see what they've done.
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Two things:
1) ANY ship will overpower defenses eventually. And if you leave your power on the weapons setting, yeah, you'll get downed. If you have one of those come after you, you hit EPtS, EM, divert power to Aux and hit a TSS, then divert power to shields. And then redivert power to weapons. Suddenly, you'll survive.
2) I can name 8 escort class ships that can mount that armor level. I can also name 4 science class ships that can also do that. If you really want me to name them I will.
And as for Romulan ships not having to sacrifice things? Well let's start with -40 subsystem power. And then if you say plasmonic leach? Well guess what, that's sacrificing a console slot that other ships don't have to. Singularity cores are slightly weaker than warp cores, because in order to maintain the power levels, you need to NOT use singularity powers. As soon as you do, you lose ALL bonus power from the core. And as for the abilities themselves? The cooldown and duration of those abilities make them far less effective. And the fact it needs to charge? Yeah, there is no imbalance here.
Stop complaining.
Those BOFFs have far deeper meaning to the Romulans than the KDF & Fed playerbase, simply because all Romulan vessels have the advantage of Battlecloaks.
The Battlecloak by itself isn't the issue. It is the sheer abundance of Battlecloak access (including their tactical usefulness) for the Romulans combined with some huge BOFF trait buffs to Battlecloaks (Subterfuge and Operative traits, esp. Superior versions).
This is exemplified with Battlecloaks on the average KDF player with the BOP and all Romulan warbirds.
1. An average KDF player in a BOP, if he uses Battlecloak in combat, that makes the player extremely vulnerable and open to quick destruction. Shields drop, bare hull exposed. Does not have access to the sheer abundance of Romulan Subterfuge/Operative BOFFs. Usually results in a quickly destroyed Klingon BOP. Everyone that has played STO long enough and has played a BOP or fought KDF BOPs enough already knows this.
2. Romulan players have ample BOFFs with Subterfuge/Operative traits. This is handed out like candy. A Warbird hitting Battlecloak in the midst of combat does not have to worry. Their defenses are actually boosted up when activating cloak, and all the Warbirds, to include the "hit & run" T'Varo have far more hullpoints than the KDF BOPs, in case they actually DO get hit before the cloak takes full effect. They even maneuver better under cloak, something the KDF BOPs cannot do. Not to mention the inherent buffs applied to a decloaking attack, combined with the Romulan traits that boost it even more.
All that is achievable to any Romulan player, because you get a number of BOFFs that boost cloaked warfare as part of quest progression before you even hit Lv30.
KDF & Fed players have to go out of their way for expensive Embassy BOFFs if they want to have any of that goodness. Even then, the advantages for getting these Embassy BOFFs with Superior Subterfuge/Operative and such is minimal.
Why?
Feds: Only 2 ships have access to cloaks, and they both have normal cloaks, so the advantage of weaving in & out of cloaks in combat doesn't matter. Only the decloaking alpha strike, and the defense boost to cloaking doesn't matter: Because they cannot cloak during combat.
KDF: The KDF has wider access to cloaks than the Feds, but as with the Defiant & Gal-X users, the boost is minimal, as mentioned already. Most cloak-capable ships are standard cloaks, and cannot reap the full benefits of Subterfuge/Operative due to these types of Cloaks. Only a KDF BOP user stands to gain, but they are still dealing with ships with the smallest hull and shield mods in the game. The T'Varo is like a nimble Cruiser compared to the KDF BOP in terms of survivability.
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You are not wrong to want the factions to have unique features, but unfortunately for all of us, to Cryptic "unique features" = "power creep".
What bugs me the most is the sneaky way the went about it, stealth change and not including this in patch notes. What did you think guys, that the players are idiots and won't notice that something has changed!?
And even this you managed to do half-arsed, on the set title still says "enhanced projectile efficency" and on the bonus "enhanced projectile potency". What happened, someone got lazy to type one more sentence?
Cryptic, please pull your **** together before you drive this game into the gutter.
It's just the 2pc description that's changed, the original bonuses still hold. Interesting though, that the July 25th patch notes say:
Even though now it's even more unclear what the 2pc set does.
PVP vs the KDF was always full of cloaked alphas. Now that both sides have it, it has become a staple. That is because it is a very strong strategy, and one that is proven useful in Star Trek many times.
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The KDF NEVER has had the cloaked alpha that is running rampant the way it is now. Only the KDF BOPs have the Battlecloaks, and those ships have definite vulnerabilities for that package, unlike Romulan Warbirds that pay nothing for their tactical flexibility. The rest of the cloak-capable KDF ships are standard cloaks. Once out of cloak, they are in for the long haul of the fight, unlike ALL Romulan Warbirds that can weave in & out of combat with impunity.
For a KDF BOP user to use cloaks during a fight is a death sentence. Not so for the Romulans, who actually have no such worries and is actually tactically smarter to do so.
The KDF does not have the sheer abundance of BOFFs that boost anything and everything related to cloaks, nor improve the CritH%, CritD%, regular Damage boosts, AND Defenses when cloaking/decloaking... these BOFFs are handed out like candy to the Romulans.
What I find hilarious in the past of this game are Feds angry at KDF players for cloaking and KDF BOP users doing hit & run (because sticking in a firefight with a .8 shield mod and 22k hull ship is a good idea and "honorable" for some, when Fed Escorts are running at near 1.0 shield mods and near cruiser level hulls, and 5 TAC Consoles). Yet when given the chance to do so, they take upon it!
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instead, the should have made the crit % ONLY effective on romulan ships. slotted as a boff on any other factions ships, they lose that bonus. which makes perfect sense, they're romulans, they know their factions ships best, not some aliens.
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Oh, and as far as handing out boffs with multiple Space traits like candy... sure, if you had diabetic parents and got maybe one piece a month. It's actually a pain in the aft to get more than one or two decent ones, at least with my luck. The Romulan boff Recruitment assignment rarely pops up, and I've never seen a Reman boff Recruitment assignment.