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gabriael69gabriael69 Member Posts: 30
I dont know about other gamer's in STO but im bored i get on now just to do rep projects and that keeps me busy for maybe an hr then i sit their wondering what else to do and end up going to play WOT=world of tanks or SWTOR=Star wars the old republic in star wars their a contant update it seems ever 2 weeks im not trying to tell you how to do your job but their really should be something for end game like maybe raids also it be nice if you did a news post like say ever 2 weeks to tell us little hints of the upcoming contant updates it saddens me when i log and all i see if more stuff to do with your zen store but guess you gota do that everone gota make a buck i still love sto and probly keep playing less now with not much to do:confused:

PS:side note i have a ship that has 56k hull and 13k shields and a tact cube one shot me for over 70k that a bug or as is
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  • jumpingjsjumpingjs Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    gabriael69 wrote: »
    I dont know about other gamer's in STO but im bored i get on now just to do rep projects and that keeps me busy for maybe an hr then i sit their wondering what else to do and end up going to play WOT=world of tanks or SWTOR=Star wars the old republic in star wars their a contant update it seems ever 2 weeks im not trying to tell you how to do your job but their really should be something for end game like maybe raids also it be nice if you did a news post like say ever 2 weeks to tell us little hints of the upcoming contant updates it saddens me when i log and all i see if more stuff to do with your zen store but guess you gota do that everone gota make a buck i still love sto and probly keep playing less now with not much to do:confused:

    PS:side note i have a ship that has 56k hull and 13k shields and a tact cube one shot me for over 70k that a bug or as is


    I have a suggestion: attempt to learn some better grammar! (+ Spelling and Syntax too) :D:):P

    /endbeingmean+Iamsorryforthat-kinda

    YouTube wants to say "bye"

    As for what you say:

    SWTOR has a bigger fanbase and has more money to spend, you got that Star Trek fan?

    I have only played about 25% of the game, and I am addicted to it. I do not intend to play the 25% for a LONG time.

    I also read Cryptics Stories and so forth.

    I also like the Fleet, and being with the Fleet, and playing with the Fleet. When no on in my fleet is online, I generally play less.

    I also like exploring, "paying the in-game STO bills" and so on.

    I also do the odd mission every now and again too.

    Good Luck out there.

    Remember to stay within Starfleet Communique.

    As for PS: It is a stupid system needing an update, and in someways, unfortunately not a bug.
    Hopefully I'll come back from my break; this break is fun; I play intellectual games.

    I hope STO get's better ...
  • praxi5praxi5 Member Posts: 1,562 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    Welcome to the PvPer's life...

    After we get finished being dragged through completely unwanted and repetitive PvE grinds, we're forced to go back to the same 3 maps that have existed (and not even been fixed) since launch.

    At least PvP is dynamic in that no 2 matches are the same, but still.
  • adamkafeiadamkafei Member Posts: 6,539 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    jumpingjs wrote: »
    As for PS: It is a stupid system needing an update, and in someways, unfortunately not a bug.

    Needs an update that it will never get because of people who refuse to think so without these 1 hit kills nobody who does think would never die, even in a shuttle
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  • mewmaster101mewmaster101 Member Posts: 1,239 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    gabriael69 wrote: »
    I dont know about other gamer's in STO but im bored i get on now just to do rep projects and that keeps me busy for maybe an hr then i sit their wondering what else to do and end up going to play WOT=world of tanks or SWTOR=Star wars the old republic in star wars their a contant update it seems ever 2 weeks im not trying to tell you how to do your job but their really should be something for end game like maybe raids also it be nice if you did a news post like say ever 2 weeks to tell us little hints of the upcoming contant updates it saddens me when i log and all i see if more stuff to do with your zen store but guess you gota do that everone gota make a buck i still love sto and probly keep playing less now with not much to do:confused:

    PS:side note i have a ship that has 56k hull and 13k shields and a tact cube one shot me for over 70k that a bug or as is

    lol at the swtor update thing, most of the time their "updates" are adding more stuff to the Cartel market (their C-store), or rotating out one of a couple annoying events no one seems to like in the first place. Also if you think bug fixes are rare in STO, you have never played SWTOR. Another thing to point out is SWTOR is technically pay to win, because you NEED to buy a sub and stay subbed, or a upgrade from the Cartel market to use endgame equipment at all.
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  • zombiedeadheadedzombiedeadheaded Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    STO is essentially a game without content, and with one-dimensional mechanics. As such, it will always stay a tiny speck on the MMO map, witha small fanbase loyal to what they want it to be, rather than what it is.

    I log on, play a couple of fleet actions, log off. It's little more than an online shoot em up, and so it will always stay, till darkness falls.
  • jumpingjsjumpingjs Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    I have a quotation for you: "People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones", or in other words check your own grammar before criticising others.

    Besides many posters are not native English speakers, being rude to people is a great way to ensure they don't bother to comment on the rest of your post, which may in fact have something of use therein.

    My Grammar is within adequate parameters, and I would not say "Very good". It is not "good" grammar by any means, but it is better than most of the "grammer" I have seen in my life. :D:)

    (I forgot the Colon at the time of writing)


    As for the not native speakers, good point, and in-fairness, I should have supplied a useful tip : when using the personal pronoun in the nominative case, instead of "i" it really ought to be "I".

    As for being rude, I apologised, and admitted to being rude.
    Hopefully I'll come back from my break; this break is fun; I play intellectual games.

    I hope STO get's better ...
  • cha0s1428cha0s1428 Member Posts: 416 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    I can't say that I disagree. I have finished my rep grind on most of my characters, my fleet will never move past T3 shipyard since nobody has need for anything higher than T3 for that much of a dilithium/EC sink.

    There is no replay value for any of the episodes, and I burned out on STFs DOING the rep grind. PvP has gotten out of hand, as in the only ppl who really do it anymore are premades, which doesn't interest me as its just a long grinding war of attrition all the time (why I quit Guild Wars)

    The only thing I had left to do was log on with everyone to do their daily dilithium cap, but since I have no need for it, have no ships/packs/zen stuff to buy, I don't need to do it, really. Which means I really have nothing to do anymore.

    My ships are set, geared out, and completely badass. I just have nothing to point them at now, so meh, I haven't logged on in about a week. Been having more fun playing Xcom Enemy Unknown and Fallout New Vegas again.

    Anything on the horizon I am not really interested in because all new content now seems to be focused on a stupid rep grind, fleet grind, pve grind, or some other form of grind for something that either has little value or is completely necessary in order to compete with others. Sure its new stuff, but its hard to get excited about a new rep grind or fleet holding under the current mechanics, as I will still have to grind the same old boring TRIBBLE (Defera dil dailies, Eta Eridani dailies, ISE, KASE, bunny hunting, etc.) to unlock whatever OP thing they offer with the new fleet holding or reputation system.

    Meh, I think I have had enough.
  • corvallecorvalle Member Posts: 254 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    cha0s1428 wrote: »
    I can't say that I disagree. I have finished my rep grind on most of my characters, my fleet will never move past T3 shipyard since nobody has need for anything higher than T3 for that much of a dilithium/EC sink.

    There is no replay value for any of the episodes, and I burned out on STFs DOING the rep grind. PvP has gotten out of hand, as in the only ppl who really do it anymore are premades, which doesn't interest me as its just a long grinding war of attrition all the time (why I quit Guild Wars)

    The only thing I had left to do was log on with everyone to do their daily dilithium cap, but since I have no need for it, have no ships/packs/zen stuff to buy, I don't need to do it, really. Which means I really have nothing to do anymore.

    My ships are set, geared out, and completely badass. I just have nothing to point them at now, so meh, I haven't logged on in about a week. Been having more fun playing Xcom Enemy Unknown and Fallout New Vegas again.

    Anything on the horizon I am not really interested in because all new content now seems to be focused on a stupid rep grind, fleet grind, pve grind, or some other form of grind for something that either has little value or is completely necessary in order to compete with others. Sure its new stuff, but its hard to get excited about a new rep grind or fleet holding under the current mechanics, as I will still have to grind the same old boring TRIBBLE (Defera dil dailies, Eta Eridani dailies, ISE, KASE, bunny hunting, etc.) to unlock whatever OP thing they offer with the new fleet holding or reputation system.

    Meh, I think I have had enough.

    ^
    Ain't this the truth..I think alot of players are beginning to feel this way.
  • kirkepsilon1kirkepsilon1 Member Posts: 132 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    gabriael69 wrote: »
    I dont know about other gamer's in STO but im bored i get on now just to do rep projects and that keeps me busy for maybe an hr then i sit their wondering what else to do and end up going to play WOT=world of tanks or SWTOR.

    I feel your pain I haven't played in quite a while since beta testing LOR and for much the same sort of reasons you don't play much, its a general sense of there really is not that much to do that is not become boring and repetitive by now and mundane.

    A couple of my main reasons for not playing are I feel the game has become too much of a money grab and that they have sacrificed providing a quality experience in favor of just pure profit rather than providing a quality experience which then incentivises players to spend a bit of money in the game.

    Also for me the game lacks any depth or substance right now and just most things like the rep system are nothing more than pointless boring grind fests for huge periods of time now most people like me don't have all that time to waste we want to play and have fun with the latest equipment not wait over a week before we can use it. Imagine if you did that with dlc for a standalone game I bet most people would just take it back and get something else. As a consequence of me feeling this way I have been playing other games like Fallout 3 and PGA golf :P.

    I don't know how long I may have to wait but am not going to be coming back anytime soon until something changes that warrants my attention again, so like me keep doing what your doing play other things until this game becomes interesting again best solution to the problem for the moment :).
  • emplehodemplehod Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    Seriously, why would anyone expect any major issue be fixed when minor, easy-to-fix (5 minutes) issues remain since the release of the game?

    I've mentioned this several times but even the keybinds are messed up. Ever check them? Let me elaborate:

    The "Pitch Up" and "Pitch Down" binds are totally reversed. Pitch up should make the front of the ship climb. It doesn't.

    The camera keybinds are messed up too. One of the binds labeled as "Zoom In" actually zooms OUT, so you have to use binds that are both labeled "OUT" to actually zoom in and out.

    These fixes are so super simple; all it would require is to go into the code in one place and swap the text for "Pitch Up" and "Pitch Down" and change the camera one also.

    BTW, the binds also do not remain when you create a new character (some do) but I know for a fact that the bind for "Jump" is always reset to SPACE.
  • taschenbillard12taschenbillard12 Member Posts: 6 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    you might do something wrong try this for example

    Add "AdjustCamDistance -15 "
    Subtract "AdjustCamDistance 15 "
    Up "+invertibleup"
    Down "+invertibledown"

    i have no problems to bind something to the spacebar too
  • o1derfull1o1derfull1 Member Posts: 294
    edited August 2013
    most things like the rep system are nothing more than pointless boring grind fests for huge periods of time

    This sentiment is all over this thread and crops on on the forums at least weekly. I don't get it, at all. One borg stf a day will take you 15 min and give you more marks than you need to get to T5 rep. Epohh tagging for 5 min a day will give you more marks than you need to get to T% rep. Nukara is slightly more annoying, but still one Azura rescue and one vault ensnared a day for about 25 min of your time will give you more marks than you need to get to T5 rep.

    All told, that's 45 min. And you're doing 3 differing PvE space events, and one lolwut ground event. There's variety, and brevity. Also, it take 45 days I think to get max rep. I have no idea what your attention spans must be like to consider 45 days a long time and grind fest. That's half a summer. That's nothing in an MMO.

    I'm not sure how it could be less long or grindy. I suppose they could let you buy T5 in the zen store but then people would cry pay to win. If they nerfed the requirements, people would just get there even faster and easier and we'd just see more 'bored' threads sooner.

    I've been playing for just about 3 months now, and I have 3 level 50s, and haven't made it past the cardassian missions of any of them.

    I still need tons of doffs and commendation xp, to explore more than half the PvE queues (I just did mine trap for the first time, yesterday) , finish the quest missions, gear my Romulan for PvP and play more than Kerrat all while hitting my daily dil cap, trying each foundry mission, and working on the accolades for nimbus and new romulus, and also learn how to, and actually do, the borg ground stfs.

    There is MUCH to do in this game that takes a while, but the good news is it's all the fun stuff. The rep grinds? Not so much.
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  • robeasomrobeasom Member Posts: 1,911 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    One Crystalline entity during the bonus marks gives me more than enought nukar marks to get me to tier V
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  • alopenalopen Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    o1derfull1 wrote: »
    This sentiment is all over this thread and crops on on the forums at least weekly. I don't get it, at all. One borg stf a day will take you 15 min and give you more marks than you need to get to T5 rep. Epohh tagging for 5 min a day will give you more marks than you need to get to T% rep. Nukara is slightly more annoying, but still one Azura rescue and one vault ensnared a day for about 25 min of your time will give you more marks than you need to get to T5 rep.

    All told, that's 45 min. And you're doing 3 differing PvE space events, and one lolwut ground event. There's variety, and brevity. Also, it take 45 days I think to get max rep. I have no idea what your attention spans must be like to consider 45 days a long time and grind fest. That's half a summer. That's nothing in an MMO.

    I'm not sure how it could be less long or grindy. I suppose they could let you buy T5 in the zen store but then people would cry pay to win. If they nerfed the requirements, people would just get there even faster and easier and we'd just see more 'bored' threads sooner.

    I've been playing for just about 3 months now, and I have 3 level 50s, and haven't made it past the cardassian missions of any of them.

    I still need tons of doffs and commendation xp, to explore more than half the PvE queues (I just did mine trap for the first time, yesterday) , finish the quest missions, gear my Romulan for PvP and play more than Kerrat all while hitting my daily dil cap, trying each foundry mission, and working on the accolades for nimbus and new romulus, and also learn how to, and actually do, the borg ground stfs.

    There is MUCH to do in this game that takes a while, but the good news is it's all the fun stuff. The rep grinds? Not so much.

    Its not that the grind is hard, its that end game has repetive PvE and alot of issues with PvP. I like to PvP but even that will get old after awhile with how broken some of the consoles are. Rather than balance them though, Cryptic just makes an even better console and requires another grind to get it. All this does is force you to particpate in the useless grind just to compete in PvP. BTW the biggest problem I ever had with the grind is running out of XP because I like to try new things with my lvl 50 toon which also sucks out XP to train different boff skills. So during a grind on a toon I am forced to play my character the same way the whole grind. DOFFs are expensive
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  • dracounguisdracounguis Member Posts: 5,358 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    praxi5 wrote: »
    Welcome to the PvPer's life...

    Welcome to any MMO gamer's life, you mean. :D
    Sometimes I think I play STO just to have something to complain about on the forums.
  • the1tiggletthe1tigglet Member Posts: 1,421 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    lol at the swtor update thing, most of the time their "updates" are adding more stuff to the Cartel market (their C-store), or rotating out one of a couple annoying events no one seems to like in the first place. Also if you think bug fixes are rare in STO, you have never played SWTOR. Another thing to point out is SWTOR is technically pay to win, because you NEED to buy a sub and stay subbed, or a upgrade from the Cartel market to use endgame equipment at all.

    Yeah I was about to say that as well. SWTOR went with the horrible Freemium model. It's like their devs were ferengi holdingonto your slip of latinum while they throw lobi crystals at you trying to make you a deal that even your mother wouldn't want.

    The updates are really just more store stuff from what I've seen.

    And no game should be freemium man, not for so little content, they want freemium which, as shown to us by SOE who've been exploiting players for years, is clearly a double dip without even washing their hands first.
  • cha0s1428cha0s1428 Member Posts: 416 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    o1derfull1 wrote: »
    This sentiment is all over this thread and crops on on the forums at least weekly. I don't get it, at all. One borg stf a day will take you 15 min and give you more marks than you need to get to T5 rep. Epohh tagging for 5 min a day will give you more marks than you need to get to T% rep. Nukara is slightly more annoying, but still one Azura rescue and one vault ensnared a day for about 25 min of your time will give you more marks than you need to get to T5 rep.

    All told, that's 45 min. And you're doing 3 differing PvE space events, and one lolwut ground event. There's variety, and brevity. Also, it take 45 days I think to get max rep. I have no idea what your attention spans must be like to consider 45 days a long time and grind fest. That's half a summer. That's nothing in an MMO.

    I'm not sure how it could be less long or grindy. I suppose they could let you buy T5 in the zen store but then people would cry pay to win. If they nerfed the requirements, people would just get there even faster and easier and we'd just see more 'bored' threads sooner.

    I've been playing for just about 3 months now, and I have 3 level 50s, and haven't made it past the cardassian missions of any of them.

    I still need tons of doffs and commendation xp, to explore more than half the PvE queues (I just did mine trap for the first time, yesterday) , finish the quest missions, gear my Romulan for PvP and play more than Kerrat all while hitting my daily dil cap, trying each foundry mission, and working on the accolades for nimbus and new romulus, and also learn how to, and actually do, the borg ground stfs.

    There is MUCH to do in this game that takes a while, but the good news is it's all the fun stuff. The rep grinds? Not so much.

    Wow, you completely and totally missed the point.

    The stuff isn't hard to do, I (and many more) are just tired of doing the same 5-10 things over and over again. Run the dailies for dil, run Tau Dewa patrol, run nebula rescue, run ISE, etc. All of which only takes an hour or 2, sure. Its just the same thing every day.

    Aside from that, you said you have a lot of things to do. Thats great. Many of us don't. I have no more rep to get. I don't need dil, or zen, or EC.

    PvP has become boring as you either get slaughtered by a premade, or slaughter some people with horrible ship builds. OR you manage to get 10 people who know what they are doing, and the fight lasts for hours, and not in a fun way. Either way, even if you do happen to have fun in a pvp fight, it means nothing. Yay 15 people died and we win/loose. No points, no record, nothing to track. Its meaningless, and its lost its thrill. It used to be fun, but its worn off.

    You may be having fun still, and that's great, honestly. I hope you continue to have fun.

    You aren't bored yet, but don't worry though, you'll get there.
  • cgta1967cgta1967 Member Posts: 86 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    cha0s1428 wrote: »
    ....I (and many more) are just tired of doing the same 5-10 things over and over again.......

    then do something else.

    problem solved.
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  • cha0s1428cha0s1428 Member Posts: 416 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    cgta1967 wrote: »
    then do something else.

    problem solved.

    brilliant.

    Like what?

    Play something else?

    Done.
  • daan2006daan2006 Member Posts: 5,346 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    cha0s1428 wrote: »
    brilliant.

    Like what?

    Play something else?

    Done.

    but but but their are foundry missions :P sorry had to :D
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    macronius wrote: »
    This! Their ability to outdo their own failures is quite impressive. If only this power could be harnessed for good.
  • timezargtimezarg Member Posts: 1,268
    edited August 2013
    I don't necessarily agree with how PvP's depicted, but I agree that the repetitive PvE content gets old really quickly.

    It would be nice if PvP were expanded into a truly viable alternative method of gathering resources (dilithium, marks, EC, etc). I'd spend all my time PvPing, and I'd probably end up buying more Zen via dilithium as well.
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  • adamkafeiadamkafei Member Posts: 6,539 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    I confess I logged in the other day for all of 5 seconds before I was bored i've played everything more times than are fun and I sadly remember the time before the rep system and I tell you every STF I did before season 7 was fun but the day season 7 was released all the fun was sucked out of it.
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  • corvallecorvalle Member Posts: 254 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    adamkafei wrote: »
    I confess I logged in the other day for all of 5 seconds before I was bored i've played everything more times than are fun and I sadly remember the time before the rep system and I tell you every STF I did before season 7 was fun but the day season 7 was released all the fun was sucked out of it.

    ^^ This right here for me as well. I had a blast in STF's before S7. Why? Because I could go into an STF, and do my best hoping to complete the optionals with a chance at some borg salvage, or tech.

    It was fun knowing that I always had that chance. People did NOT afk because that would diminish their chance at getting those items.

    Now, its all about the stupid mark grind. People can afk, there is no real reason to complete the optional..(15 marks lol). Pre season 7 was fun ;)
  • daan2006daan2006 Member Posts: 5,346 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    corvalle wrote: »
    ^^ This right here for me as well. I had a blast in STF's before S7. Why? Because I could go into an STF, and do my best hoping to complete the optionals with a chance at some borg salvage, or tech.

    It was fun knowing that I always had that chance. People did NOT afk because that would diminish their chance at getting those items.

    Now, its all about the stupid mark grind. People can afk, there is no real reason to complete the optional..(15 marks lol). Pre season 7 was fun ;)

    not to say i didnt have to do slide bar and pay dill for my sets to ya i miss the old days before this game became slide bars online
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    macronius wrote: »
    This! Their ability to outdo their own failures is quite impressive. If only this power could be harnessed for good.
  • lordthrudlordthrud Member Posts: 121 Arc User
    edited August 2013
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  • darthpetersendarthpetersen Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    STO is essentially a game without content, and with one-dimensional mechanics. As such, it will always stay a tiny speck on the MMO map, witha small fanbase loyal to what they want it to be, rather than what it is.

    I log on, play a couple of fleet actions, log off. It's little more than an online shoot em up, and so it will always stay, till darkness falls.

    Thats so true. Iam still here, because i hope, that STO become mor Star Trek, with deeper content, canon interior, open PvP-zones (where you can capture a system for your faction) and not only more reputation systems and more stupid grind.
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  • darkdog13darkdog13 Member Posts: 209 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    While sto may lack content at least you get to play it, swtor is by far the worst f2p game i have ever seen sure you may get regular updates with content but you have to pay for it most of the time let alone like stupid things like buying extra hotbars if you want more then 2 or having to pay to unlock the privilege to play more then 5 instances/pvp fights per week.

    Swtor seems like a smash and grab trying to suck up as much money and pull the plug as soon as things take a downturn the game did not even last a year under a subscription model but they sold about 2.6 million copies at $60+ and all the subscription fees from that time but even those players have to buy content from the store like everyone else now with the new model.

    S7 was a mistake i don't think you will find 1 player that enjoys the new rep grind and pvp is just hopeless it needs to be redone from the bottom up. I personally love the idea of pvp in this game and really liked the matches before level 50 but after that its all about the p2w ships and consoles that turn it into a instagib fest.

    The crazy part is both star trek and star wars appeal to some many people they don't need these p2w/buy content path people are more then willing to buy costumes/ship skins and other vanity items. Compared to any other fantasy games sto and swtor has a huge edge in that department.
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