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  • misterde3misterde3 Member Posts: 4,195 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    davidwford wrote: »
    They did exchange technology. The Vor'cha and Neg'Var were heavily influenced by the technology acquired from the Federation(warp nacelles in particular).

    And...?
    Technology is not the same as whole ships.
  • elglass#2975 elglass Member Posts: 159 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    f2pdrakron wrote: »
    Yes but Klingon are a Federation C-Store option so why they cannot fly a B'rel?

    If you want to apply "I want to fly this and here is why" I would point out we have Klingons that are Federation members and command Federation ships, since shipbuilding in KDF seem to be House related nothing really stops a House to say "TRIBBLE you" and ditch the Empire.

    Its far more believable a Klingon Federation Captain on a B'rel that a Romulan in a D'Kyr.
    Storylines can easily be created by the individual player as to the why their captain has any type of ship. Khan steals the Reliant as an example, and we can get Mirrorverse ships in boxes we find on away missions. Personally I feel the C-Store ships should be available to ANY character I make no matter their alignment, same with costumes I purchase. I am purchasing them after all. If I want to write a bio for a "Captain" who is actually a Pirate who somehow murdered the crew of a Klingon ship and now has a contract as a privateer with the Federation, I should be able to play my level 50 Fed Captain in his Klingon Battlecruiser I spent 25 bucks for. So why not release the D'Kyr to Romulan Players, or any ship purchesed through the C-Store to any player no matter faction?
  • malakhglitchmalakhglitch Member Posts: 55 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Hmm. Not the D'Kyr, no. It would cause too many problems in the long run.

    What Cryptic CAN do is make a Vulcan ship made available for use by the Romulan Republic characters. Perhaps a Suurok-class.
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  • shpoksshpoks Member Posts: 6,967 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    joshglass wrote: »
    Storylines can easily be created by the individual player as to the why their captain has any type of ship. Khan steals the Reliant as an example, and we can get Mirrorverse ships in boxes we find on away missions. Personally I feel the C-Store ships should be available to ANY character I make no matter their alignment, same with costumes I purchase. I am purchasing them after all. If I want to write a bio for a "Captain" who is actually a Pirate who somehow murdered the crew of a Klingon ship and now has a contract as a privateer with the Federation, I should be able to play my level 50 Fed Captain in his Klingon Battlecruiser I spent 25 bucks for. So why not release the D'Kyr to Romulan Players, or any ship purchesed through the C-Store to any player no matter faction?

    You should try another game then. No, really, I'm not being sarcastic at all.
    Ever since LoR came out I've been reading nonsence like this - "I RP a pirate captain so I can fly whatever ship I please" or "I'm the Empress of my fleet and I say that members of the fleet can fly any ship in game" or "I hate the Republic, I want to RP as RSE so Cryptic should make me a separate social zone at Rator III availible only for us that want to RP as Tal'Shiar".
    This game has factions you play as. They are the following:
    UFP - You play as Starfleet
    Klingon Empire - You play as KDF
    Romulan Republic - You play as a memeber of the Republic fleet

    You are free to RP whatever you want, but that doesn't mean it should affect everyone's game. Those factions I mentioned are set in stone, you play as memeber of them in this game. There's no option to be a pirate, miner or whatever. Although you can RP at your free will you'll have to use what you have at disposal. A lot of lockbox ships for your pirate captain to comandeer. Otherwise I might want to RP as Han Solo, so I'll need them to make me a Millenium Falcon in STO that comes in a bundle with a Wookie first officer. :D
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  • alikainalikain Member Posts: 348 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    @joshglass

    If that the case why even have factions. Why not let everyone fly any ships they want.
    "You ask why we give our ships computer normal emotions. Do you really want a warship incapable of loyalty?"
  • majesticmsfcmajesticmsfc Member Posts: 1,401 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    I smell the possibility of a Vulcan lock box coming, oh boy have the lock boxes gone downhill since the Ferengi lock box. The first two made sense, every single box since then apart from maybe, (emphasis on the word maybe) the Dominion one hasn't.
    alikain wrote: »
    This is not going to happen guys. Think about it, the alliance system well not allow the Romulan to fly D'Kyr because what will happen if one is ally with the KDF. Do they get to fly the D'Kyr too, since the D'Kyr is listed as a federation ship. What we need is more Romulan ships not allied ships. Am guess you all want the Romulans to be a full faction right. Then stop asking for other faction things to be add to the Romulan side.:mad:

    I agree a lot of us have been wondering why Federation players keep asking for KDF stuff. Would be better if they just rolled a KDF character. Same with Vulcan ships, you want to fly one, roll a Federation character. Keep the factions unique (not much there now really between the Fed and KDF).

    The problem with this game is so many people only play one faction and then demand all the other faction(s) content like ships, consoles etc to be on their prefered faction. This has happened so much in the last 18 months since F2P with Cryptic caving in on these demands at least on the Federation side there really isn't much point playing both the Federation and KDF, you basically pick one and go with it, ignore the other. Not good for the long term survivability of the game no wonder they did the Romulans, instant cash flow for the next 12 months or so and then they'll do the same with the Cardassians, then the Dominion and so on and so forth. Forget the KDF and Federation story arc's they are dead now, new factions and cross faction content is all we will get.
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  • alikainalikain Member Posts: 348 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    @majesticmsfc

    I have to agree, this game went downhill with all the lockboxes cryptic introduce into the game. Now most people have gotten into their mind that they have to get any ships from any faction. After all if the lockboxes can give the ships that their factions wouldn't allow them to have, why not ask for more ships in lockboxes. And also use the c-store ships as another Excuse to get other factions ship, why is that? Because they paid for so they should be able to use it with any character they create.
    "You ask why we give our ships computer normal emotions. Do you really want a warship incapable of loyalty?"
  • elglass#2975 elglass Member Posts: 159 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    shpoks wrote: »
    You should try another game then. No, really, I'm not being sarcastic at all.
    Ever since LoR came out I've been reading nonsence like this - "I RP a pirate captain so I can fly whatever ship I please" or "I'm the Empress of my fleet and I say that members of the fleet can fly any ship in game" or "I hate the Republic, I want to RP as RSE so Cryptic should make me a separate social zone at Rator III availible only for us that want to RP as Tal'Shiar".
    This game has factions you play as. They are the following:
    UFP - You play as Starfleet
    Klingon Empire - You play as KDF
    Romulan Republic - You play as a memeber of the Republic fleet

    You are free to RP whatever you want, but that doesn't mean it should affect everyone's game. Those factions I mentioned are set in stone, you play as memeber of them in this game. There's no option to be a pirate, miner or whatever. Although you can RP at your free will you'll have to use what you have at disposal. A lot of lockbox ships for your pirate captain to comandeer. Otherwise I might want to RP as Han Solo, so I'll need them to make me a Millenium Falcon in STO that comes in a bundle with a Wookie first officer. :D
    Given that I don't do PVP, Roleplaying in this game is almost non existent except within most fleet organizations, and the Faction specificity concerns individual play, I honestly don't see any particular reason not to let people play the ships the specifically PAY to use. I'm not saying a standard assault cruiser should be available to all factions, but if I buy an Odyssey cruiser, why does it affect your game play if we never have any real contact? I have minimal contact with other players even though this is an MMORPG, and enjoy the story content and how everything cinches, and for the most part am happy to play within faction. But at the same time I'd like access to all I pay to use on all my characters because I pay to use them. It doesn't impact you personally so I'm not sure exactly why it would bother you. I mean you already have Klingons and Federation and most likely Romulans in Ferenghi, Dominion, Cardassian, Tholian, and other ships, why not let people cross faction ships they PAY to play?
  • elglass#2975 elglass Member Posts: 159 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    alikain wrote: »
    @joshglass

    If that the case why even have factions. Why not let everyone fly any ships they want.
    We have factions for the feel of the characters we want to play and storyline advancement within the episodic nature of the game. I for one don't enjoy playing Klingon side because their world is dirty and disorganized and based upon a really limited viewpoint whereas Federation is cleaner, and contains the greater Vision of Star Trek with acceptance of cultural and racial diversity. I enjoy the story on Federation side so enjoy playing in that faction. Others don't feel the same way so they have multiple factions. Just because I like Feds best doesn't mean I don't want to steal a Bird of Prey from the Klingons in my story, (ala Star Treks 3 and 4), or mean that I wouldn't enjoy having a D'Derix in my fleet to drive around on a sunday afternoon. If I PAY to use something I'd like to use it on all my characters, and as I said previously, with the cross factional ships already out there with Ferenghi, Romulan, Cardassian, Dominion, and Tholian, I don't see it as ruining peoples factional story.
  • elglass#2975 elglass Member Posts: 159 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    alikain wrote: »
    @majesticmsfc

    I have to agree, this game went downhill with all the lockboxes cryptic introduce into the game. Now most people have gotten into their mind that they have to get any ships from any faction. After all if the lockboxes can give the ships that their factions wouldn't allow them to have, why not ask for more ships in lockboxes. And also use the c-store ships as another Excuse to get other factions ship, why is that? Because they paid for so they should be able to use it with any character they create.
    If it weren't for the lock box cross faction ships weren't present in the game, I'd be totally against cross factioning, but the game world is already so muddied with different ships running around on both sides, I just don't see the harm in letting people have what they buy.
  • elglass#2975 elglass Member Posts: 159 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    I smell the possibility of a Vulcan lock box coming, oh boy have the lock boxes gone downhill since the Ferengi lock box. The first two made sense, every single box since then apart from maybe, (emphasis on the word maybe) the Dominion one hasn't.



    I agree a lot of us have been wondering why Federation players keep asking for KDF stuff. Would be better if they just rolled a KDF character. Same with Vulcan ships, you want to fly one, roll a Federation character. Keep the factions unique (not much there now really between the Fed and KDF).

    The problem with this game is so many people only play one faction and then demand all the other faction(s) content like ships, consoles etc to be on their prefered faction. This has happened so much in the last 18 months since F2P with Cryptic caving in on these demands at least on the Federation side there really isn't much point playing both the Federation and KDF, you basically pick one and go with it, ignore the other. Not good for the long term survivability of the game no wonder they did the Romulans, instant cash flow for the next 12 months or so and then they'll do the same with the Cardassians, then the Dominion and so on and so forth. Forget the KDF and Federation story arc's they are dead now, new factions and cross faction content is all we will get.
    Were I in charge of designing a game like this I would never have allowed dilution of the purity of the factions to begin with, and characters would start as Captains, and never go above that unless they literally were in charge of a Fleet, and then that Fleet would be titled within a guideline to maintain the purity of the in game story. But I'm not the one who developed it, and people who don't care about story say what they want and the developers who want money do that to get money. As it stands we have more Vice Admirals than even full fledged Captains, and the game revolves around what ships can get the best builds and not having to split my resources earned between 5 characters and 5 fleets so I can get the best out of my one fleet that I can. Story is good, but not important to most I feel, if it did you wouldn't see so many people with Dreadnaughts and Tal Shiar Adapted ships.
  • marc8219marc8219 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    I suspect most Romulan players myself included wouldn't like people saying "Romulan ships for Vulcans" so why try to do the reverse. Ships are one of they few things making different factions, we might as well all be one big super Federation with acess to all ships otherwise, and that would get boring. CBS probably wouldn't allow it anyway, borgifying the Tal Shiar ships was the only way that was allowed to slide.
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  • anubisdeltaanubisdelta Member Posts: 27 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    ariseabove wrote: »
    What are you talking about that ship is Tier 4 if your a Romulan allied with the Feds you can fly it.

    If you have a fed toon with it already you can claim it for free if not you will have to buy it.

    Actually the D'kry Vulcan Science ship is a T5 its a Rear Admiral lvl 40 ship hence why cant fly as Romulan due to it been a T5 or Admiral grade ship.

    Tier 1 - LT (Lvl 1 - 9)
    Tier 2 - LTC (Lvl 10 - 19)
    Tier 3 - Cmd (Lvl 22 - 29)
    Tier 4 - Cap (Lvl 30 - 39)
    Tier 5 - RA/VA (Lvl 40 - 50) - Faction ships can't be used by Rom Allies

    Ranks and Tiers Explained here

    http://sto.gamepedia.com/Rank
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  • otakuboytotakuboyt Member Posts: 2 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    I really really want the D'Kyr for my Romulan. My character is a science officer and a reunificationist.

    She is a bit of a vulcanphile. Her pet is a Sehlat Cub. The only reason she is alive is because her parents took her on a very risky trip to Vulcan in 2387.
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  • wufangchuwufangchu Member Posts: 778 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    Actually the D'kry Vulcan Science ship is a T5 its a Rear Admiral lvl 40 ship hence why cant fly as Romulan due to it been a T5 or Admiral grade ship.

    Tier 1 - LT (Lvl 1 - 9)
    Tier 2 - LTC (Lvl 10 - 19)
    Tier 3 - Cmd (Lvl 22 - 29)
    Tier 4 - Cap (Lvl 30 - 39)
    Tier 5 - RA/VA (Lvl 40 - 50) - Faction ships can't be used by Rom Allies

    Ranks and Tiers Explained here

    http://sto.gamepedia.com/Rank

    I suppose that then means that the adapted cruiser and destroyer are only T4 because everyone is flying them that can get them and they certainly arent federation or kdf.. I suppose the same applies for the breen and dominion ships as well..
    Frikkin lock boxes..
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  • misterde3misterde3 Member Posts: 4,195 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    wufangchu wrote: »
    I suppose that then means that the adapted cruiser and destroyer are only T4 because everyone is flying them that can get them and they certainly arent federation or kdf.. I suppose the same applies for the breen and dominion ships as well..
    Frikkin lock boxes..

    They're "cross-faction", because they don't belong to any of the playable factions.:)
    There are faction-specific (like the MU- and Time-) and cross-faction lockbox ships.
    And the Adapted ships are Tal Shiar, which means they don't belong to any of the playable factions.
  • varnoukhvarnoukh Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    I'd be delighted if my Romulan could fly the D'kyr.
  • daan2006daan2006 Member Posts: 5,346 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    want to fly vulcan ships play a fed ty and have a great day! :)
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    macronius wrote: »
    This! Their ability to outdo their own failures is quite impressive. If only this power could be harnessed for good.
  • otakuboytotakuboyt Member Posts: 2 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    daan2006 wrote: »
    want to fly vulcan ships play a fed ty and have a great day! :)

    Yeah, a Federation-aligned Romulan.
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  • daan2006daan2006 Member Posts: 5,346 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    otakuboyt wrote: »
    Yeah, a Federation-aligned Romulan.

    they are ally not a member of starfleet the federation or the vulcans
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    macronius wrote: »
    This! Their ability to outdo their own failures is quite impressive. If only this power could be harnessed for good.
  • varnoukhvarnoukh Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    otakuboyt wrote: »
    Yeah, a Federation-aligned Romulan.

    That's me! Now hand over my D'kyr :)
  • nethernynetherny Member Posts: 54 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    I'm reading a lot of player-made, character story based reasons for wanting various ships. Well, if you can't make the ship fit the toon, make the toon fit the ship.

    Make a Fed side Alien, make him look Romulan, buy the D'Kyr, Done.

    I had a "Romulan" toon a long time ago on KDF side by doing this lol.
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