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Why do blue phasers suck?
lykum
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srsly 5 bucks for a whole lotta nuthin.
the blue phasers are by far the prettiest in the game. can we get an updated blue phaser? I mean scimitar thalaron pulse and all..
edit: not only that but equipping single blue phaser forward shows up as a dual beam. Why on earth wouldn't you just give the 1701 dual forward blue beams cryptic? I seriously feel that I've gotten ripped off on this!opportunity lost to make more money with the pretty blues! I know canon wouldn't allow it but perhaps a nanite phaser in blue?
the blue phasers are by far the prettiest in the game. can we get an updated blue phaser? I mean scimitar thalaron pulse and all..
edit: not only that but equipping single blue phaser forward shows up as a dual beam. Why on earth wouldn't you just give the 1701 dual forward blue beams cryptic? I seriously feel that I've gotten ripped off on this!opportunity lost to make more money with the pretty blues! I know canon wouldn't allow it but perhaps a nanite phaser in blue?
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cause sometimes its party time!
cause sometimes its party time!
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they don't even work well for leveling up, they just plain don't do much but look blue. see Enterprise 1701 is another victim of not splitting up the eras in the separate times. just like CV Enterprise was scrapped at the end of world war two.
I see no problem with blue nanite phasers, maybe just make it a different sound?
cause sometimes its party time!
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That people should know what they're screaming about!
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My character Tsin'xing
not the point I was trying to make lol
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Cryptic in the past occasionally released trinkets like the blue TOS ship phasers or buzzy TOS hand-phasers as nice memorabilia or unique things that have no aspirations towards being the go-to weapon. They're meant for fun visual authenticity...not DPS.
Besides..if you wanna think rationally about them in-universe: They were the weapons of a vessel that is almost 140 years out of date with current weapon technology*. They have every right to be obsolete.
* Conversely, I'm aware that 140-years out-of-date Constitution-class is allowed to be used today. But in a game where your liberated Borg Admiral, Reman Science Officer, Jem'hadar tactical officer and Gorn First-Officer can run around spraying bugs for a vegan Romulan colony, what IS canon anymore in STO anyway? These arguments are merely provided for your consideration.
The Artist Formerly Known As Nikotaka ][ Join Date: Jan 2010
"Can anyone remember when we used to be explorers...?"
Not just because it's nice to just ignore all the gear you find through the leveling grind.
Removing the tedium of constantly replacing pointless equipment you outgrow after 15 minutes is well worth the expense in my opinion.
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Sto's interpretation of the power difference between a mk 1 and mk 12 phaser is laughable at best. I'd imagine those old blue beams could still do quite a bit of damage.
It's a directed beam of energy.. judging by the Power of Enterprise D's phaser putting craters in that planet, I'd say canon is wrong in how they represented the Mk 2 phaser in the Crystalline Entity episode.
Point is the blue beams got some bite, and it's not being taken advantage of.
cause sometimes its party time!
Anywho want blue phasers, get an Andorian ship
worked just fine for me.
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However, these were never meant to replace weapons that required real effort to obtain in the game, even though they still remain capable weapons if the person wants to run them as support weapons to other systems like torpedoes, mines, dual arrays or cannons, as the total damage difference probably won't be that different unless you are using many.
Finally, from an in-universe standpoint, the blue phasers (and the original hand phasers) were designed as multi-function tools as well as weapons, and featured functions not used in later, dedicated weapons systems. Wide-angle stun setting, overload, and the ability to use them as power sources all stem from internal design features that were replaced in later phasers to improve damage capability, and so the blue phaser banks are inherently going to underperform when compared to later phasers that were constructed purely for firepower.
My two cents.
Of course, this is something that's always bothered me... thinking rationally in-universe. When and why did the colour of phaser beams change? Why go from blue to orange?
I can't shake the picture of some Starfleet focus group saying to itself, "Yes, you know those ravening beams of devastation we use to disintegrate our enemies? We think they should be a warmer, friendlier colour."
My character Tsin'xing
I Don't think Star fleet had anything to do with the Color change, pretty sure the producers, and creators of the show had a say on that decision
Also in TOS, the phasers changed colors so many times, red, blue, green...they didn't care.
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My character Tsin'xing
This 100%
This is one of my biggest gripes in the game when it comes to graphics.The beams are just to damn thick and need to be thinned down some.
Then again Cryptic never has been one for getting the scale of things right.
it's not the beam size that's the issue it's the ship size. make piloting the fighters and stuff viable for PvP maps where you don't want too many 'big' ships spamming abilities.
would be afun PvP map!
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your just regurgitating things I already know. I had a VERY good point btw. also, your taking this conversation out of context.
back to those pretteh pretteh blues!
cause sometimes its party time!
You can get slightly better versions from one of the "Spectres" episodes, but you would have to repeat the mission for each single phaser bank you want.
I miss that command. :<
I had purple tetryons and quantums back then (it also affected torpedoes), and fleet actions were a symphony of rainbows. So non-canonically fabulous!
The Artist Formerly Known As Nikotaka ][ Join Date: Jan 2010
"Can anyone remember when we used to be explorers...?"
I'm inclined to think that is the fault of a lack of concern for continuity back when Star Trek was younger, as has been stated: Weapon colors change a lot in TOS.
There may be an in-universe reason the colors change; Old franchises like Trek and Wars often try to retcon their more glaring problems away when they realize a writing decision has violated their own decades-old canon...Or class an entire episode as non-canon if it's too much a violation :rolleyes: ... but yeah, I'd say it's more a decision of producers as well not too worried about conventions of continuity before they realized 'Maybe we should standardize this stuff'.
The Artist Formerly Known As Nikotaka ][ Join Date: Jan 2010
"Can anyone remember when we used to be explorers...?"
Because Dual Beam Phasers are limited to 90' targeting arc. The Retrofit Forward Phaser Bank that you're bemoaning offers 250' targeting arc. Plus the effect of two, blue beams. Which was most consistent with the ship seen in the television show.
This. Through episode replay of the mission Everything Old is New, you can obtain a (blue quality) MK version appropriate to your level at the time of replay. You can choose one of the following:
You'd have to replay twice to get both forward and aft retrofit beams. But those are FREE. They only cost time.
The set from the TOS Constitution was re-tuned (and made green quality) to be better - than they were originally - when this additional set was added to the game. Though neither set is intended to be as good as standard phasers of purple quality.