Wow just looked at the New mine consoles - even the Mk X - gives better than Purple Mk XI from the exchange
At T2 the XI is way superiour to the exchange traded XII
Essentially those once expensive items are now worthless
With the added bonus that each piece gets even the lowest Mk X - is really as good as Purple XII exchange stuff - wow toss that exchange stuff in the recycler as more people catch on!
just wait till they decide to come out with military base and have tactical consoles with insane numbers..
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I cant wait for the next holding and tac consoles so i can laugh at the 25 million EC consoles selling for 1k more than a vendor will give for it the next day.
I was pleasently surprised at the cost of the new MK X nuetronium consoles as well. i was expecting 10 to 20k dilithium for them.
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I never understood the pricing on the blue Neut Mk XI's on the exchange. They're free from a Fed mission. Even for a KDF player, surely they must have a Fed for doing things like that, no? Yes, the KDF version of the same mission still does not provide the blue Mk XI after all this time...meh.
What's hot is going to fluctuate - it's important to keep abreast or even ahead of what's going to be changing so you can plan accordingly.
T2 stuff makes all the exchange stuff obsolete - and for just a few fleet credits and a days dilithium
A console that used to cost $20+ million is now worth $500k max
Thing I wonder about now is how hard is it going to get soon to make some serious EC?
Sorry to say, but the over priced consoles on the exchange were just that..over priced. I am so very happy fleet consoles pretty much nullified that problem,and fleet tactical consoles will nullify the WAY over priced mk xii purples on the exchange now, i cant wait!
I am so very happy fleet consoles pretty much nullified that problem,and fleet tactical consoles will nullify the WAY over priced mk xii purples on the exchange now, i cant wait!
It's people taking advantage of other players' lack of knowledge...pricing those consoles as high as they are.
You are all saying you can't wait until Tac consoles come out but you are not considering the bigger picture. How exactly are you going to grind EC when no drop you can get will be worth more than a few hundred thousand?. You can bet that any changes that Cryptic make will only benefit them in the long run and eventually grinding EC will be next to impossible unless you really want to dedicate hours upon hours to it!
I for one hope that they never bring Fleet Tactical consoles out, It will not only cripple EC grinding but it will have a knock on effect to Doffs specifically console doffs and it will make certain maps as barren as Defra.
If they must make Fleet Tactical Consoles they should limit them to disruptor and Phaser!
Lol, you're still going to get people, for one reason or another, that'll pay the high prices.
And on a side note, I'd rather see eng armour consoles, with higher resistances, as well as shields with higher resistances. Make combat feel more like, well Star Trek combat, with not having bs 1-hit instakills.
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You are all saying you can't wait until Tac consoles come out but you are not considering the bigger picture. How exactly are you going to grind EC when no drop you can get will be worth more than a few hundred thousand?. You can bet that any changes that Cryptic make will only benefit them in the long run and eventually grinding EC will be next to impossible unless you really want to dedicate hours upon hours to it!
I for one hope that they never bring Fleet Tactical consoles out, It will not only cripple EC grinding but it will have a knock on effect to Doffs specifically console doffs and it will make certain maps as barren as Defra.
If they must make Fleet Tactical Consoles they should limit them to disruptor and Phaser!
Soon the starbase system will have a monopoly on all the good equipment - better kiss up to your fleet leaders:eek:
You are all saying you can't wait until Tac consoles come out but you are not considering the bigger picture. How exactly are you going to grind EC when no drop you can get will be worth more than a few hundred thousand?. You can bet that any changes that Cryptic make will only benefit them in the long run and eventually grinding EC will be next to impossible unless you really want to dedicate hours upon hours to it!
I for one hope that they never bring Fleet Tactical consoles out, It will not only cripple EC grinding but it will have a knock on effect to Doffs specifically console doffs and it will make certain maps as barren as Defra.
If they must make Fleet Tactical Consoles they should limit them to disruptor and Phaser!
selling consoles isnt the only way to make EC.
actually i have never gotten into that..
i love this change.. the higher up VR XII consoles were way too hard to get and very expensive..
i hope they eventually expand it to all gear.
think about it, if you dont need to buy a 50m console, you dont need 50m.. its basic law of buisness.
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Sorry to say, but the over priced consoles on the exchange were just that..over priced. I am so very happy fleet consoles pretty much nullified that problem,and fleet tactical consoles will nullify the WAY over priced mk xii purples on the exchange now, i cant wait!
Do you have the doffs required or know how much purple eng doffs with resolve and a crit trait cost, the cost of artifacts, and how hard it is to get these doffs if not using exchange, and how many duds we end up with even when using 5 purples with crit trait? sometimes half or more of that price is just to recoup the costs of all of this, then some profit for time spent doing this, it takes several tries for hours or days to get a mk xii purple, and even then it might be junk like a torp console or sensor probes.
Soon the starbase system will have a monopoly on all the good equipment - better kiss up to your fleet leaders:eek:
i co-run a kdf fleet.. the only rule is that to get access to the fleet stores is to donate 100k worth of FC..
we dont monopolize on anything.
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i co-run a kdf fleet.. the only rule is that to get access to the fleet stores is to donate 100k worth of FC..
we dont monopolize on anything.
Biggest problem I see with a fleet of any size is only having 2 slots to use - so getting enough provisions for people is going to be a real problem for awhile.
Biggest problem I see with a fleet of any size is only having 2 slots to use - so getting enough provisions for people is going to be a real problem for awhile.
we have 1000s of provisions..
more then enough.
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1000's of mining provisions already? How is that possible? I think you need to run a mining provision assignment in 1 of the 2 assignment spots for the mine.
1000's of mining provisions already? How is that possible? I think you need to run a mining provision assignment in 1 of the 2 assignment spots for the mine.
no not the mine yet.. we are at 20 and 33 on the mine.
its almost level 2.. so not quite high enough to get the xii consoles anyway.
by then we should be in the 100s. we wont have a problem with provisions.. it just takes time to build them up.
most of my fleet members are holding out till the xii gear anyway.. but they can buy at any time if they feel like it.
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The one thing about this that really irritates me is that crafting is even more pointless. I can understand why loot drops were always better than crafted items, but really it makes little sense to hold crafting down with the left hand while lifting fleet provisioning with the right hand.
If loot drops are no longer going to be the best, then crafters should be able to compete with fleet provisions as well. I do not like being forced to group with strangers just to buy quality gear. Crafting should be the solo player's path to pinnacle tech.
i love this change.. the higher up VR XII consoles were way too hard to get and very expensive..
Ranking your way up in a fleet in order to get consoles is also way too hard and very expensive. If a casual player couldnt grind the EC they arent going to be better off with this
ps--all my toons are in fleets, and this isnt an anti-fleet rant
I do not like being forced to group with strangers just to buy quality gear.
I've fought it for so long now. Never been in a fleet. Been in a clan, though and you know what? I hate drama. Especially when it comes to gaming, which is my escape from drama.
Feeling the pressure though. Also, tired of feeling like a third rate customer. You are not in a fleet. You can not buy this, go here, play that. I didn't feel this shutout being F2P.
On the plus side, I get most of my gear from the exchange so, may not be as good, but cheaper is.
Ranking your way up in a fleet in order to get consoles is also way too hard and very expensive. If a casual player couldnt grind the EC they arent going to be better off with this
ps--all my toons are in fleets, and this isnt an anti-fleet rant
you are mistaken.. just being in an active fleet is enough to get to the top ranks of the fleet system.
its not like you have to go out of your way to get these items..
unlike the old way, where you had to do a doff mission to get an artifact, power it up by collecting the items required.. then doing another doff mission to get a random reward.. which was always something you never wanted or could use. or buy it off the exchange for some insane amount.
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welcome to mmorpg .there will always be better gear appearing than you have . cryptic knows alot of peoples game is gear and they will try keep them happy .
You are all saying you can't wait until Tac consoles come out but you are not considering the bigger picture. How exactly are you going to grind EC when no drop you can get will be worth more than a few hundred thousand?.
If they must make Fleet Tactical Consoles they should limit them to disruptor and Phaser!
I make 600-1mil per toon just doing 1 farm mission and selling any MK X of value on the exchange or vendoring the rest. i dont think losing end game Tac consoles is going to kill my ability to make EC's considering I have never gotten a MK XII purple anything from those farm missions much less a 25 million EC tac console... What will happen is some people who make 100 million a week on the exchange off these consoles will now make far less. Cry me a river, they can grind and overprice marion instead!
What will happen is exchange prices will drop to a reasonable level based on what the buyers are willing to pay for and the minimum sellars are willing to sell. As is now MK XII blue is max the price of any of these items should be selling for in MK XII purple rather than 500k to a 19.5+ million ec jump. Absurd inflation.
As for disruptor or phaser only??? Are you insane? So all the advanced and elite fleet weapons that are NOT phaser or disruptor will not get a matching tac console? That does not make sense.
welcome to mmorpg .there will always be better gear appearing than you have . cryptic knows alot of peoples game is gear and they will try keep them happy .
I look forward to that myself. I want better gear!!! I want to try something new in 6 monthes.
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just wait till they decide to come out with military base and have tactical consoles with insane numbers..
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I was pleasently surprised at the cost of the new MK X nuetronium consoles as well. i was expecting 10 to 20k dilithium for them.
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T2 stuff makes all the exchange stuff obsolete - and for just a few fleet credits and a days dilithium
A console that used to cost $20+ million is now worth $500k max
Thing I wonder about now is how hard is it going to get soon to make some serious EC?
What's hot is going to fluctuate - it's important to keep abreast or even ahead of what's going to be changing so you can plan accordingly.
And I will be the first one to buy 5 MK XII fleet tactical consoles and go win in a pvp match
I got my money ready!
Sorry to say, but the over priced consoles on the exchange were just that..over priced. I am so very happy fleet consoles pretty much nullified that problem,and fleet tactical consoles will nullify the WAY over priced mk xii purples on the exchange now, i cant wait!
Were they to work like the Science Consoles, UR Mk XII's would be +31.9's.
Say you were upgrading VR MK XII's to the UR's, for an average build - you'd see an increase of ~150.1 DPS before abilities.
Say you were upgrading VR Mk XI's to the UR's, for an average build - you'd seen an increase of ~312.6 DPS before abilities.
Course, they'd have some other benefit that might make them worth the investment...
It's people taking advantage of other players' lack of knowledge...pricing those consoles as high as they are.
I for one hope that they never bring Fleet Tactical consoles out, It will not only cripple EC grinding but it will have a knock on effect to Doffs specifically console doffs and it will make certain maps as barren as Defra.
If they must make Fleet Tactical Consoles they should limit them to disruptor and Phaser!
And on a side note, I'd rather see eng armour consoles, with higher resistances, as well as shields with higher resistances. Make combat feel more like, well Star Trek combat, with not having bs 1-hit instakills.
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You know that Cryptic knows that, right? That it means folks will be more likely to have to reach for their wallets...
Soon the starbase system will have a monopoly on all the good equipment - better kiss up to your fleet leaders:eek:
I can't kiss my own TRIBBLE I have tried :P
selling consoles isnt the only way to make EC.
actually i have never gotten into that..
i love this change.. the higher up VR XII consoles were way too hard to get and very expensive..
i hope they eventually expand it to all gear.
think about it, if you dont need to buy a 50m console, you dont need 50m.. its basic law of buisness.
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Do you have the doffs required or know how much purple eng doffs with resolve and a crit trait cost, the cost of artifacts, and how hard it is to get these doffs if not using exchange, and how many duds we end up with even when using 5 purples with crit trait? sometimes half or more of that price is just to recoup the costs of all of this, then some profit for time spent doing this, it takes several tries for hours or days to get a mk xii purple, and even then it might be junk like a torp console or sensor probes.
i co-run a kdf fleet.. the only rule is that to get access to the fleet stores is to donate 100k worth of FC..
we dont monopolize on anything.
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They seem to do a good job balancing this with reputation items that are pretty darn good.
Biggest problem I see with a fleet of any size is only having 2 slots to use - so getting enough provisions for people is going to be a real problem for awhile.
we have 1000s of provisions..
more then enough.
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1000's of mining provisions already? How is that possible? I think you need to run a mining provision assignment in 1 of the 2 assignment spots for the mine.
no not the mine yet.. we are at 20 and 33 on the mine.
its almost level 2.. so not quite high enough to get the xii consoles anyway.
by then we should be in the 100s. we wont have a problem with provisions.. it just takes time to build them up.
most of my fleet members are holding out till the xii gear anyway.. but they can buy at any time if they feel like it.
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If loot drops are no longer going to be the best, then crafters should be able to compete with fleet provisions as well. I do not like being forced to group with strangers just to buy quality gear. Crafting should be the solo player's path to pinnacle tech.
Also, unrelated:
Ranking your way up in a fleet in order to get consoles is also way too hard and very expensive. If a casual player couldnt grind the EC they arent going to be better off with this
ps--all my toons are in fleets, and this isnt an anti-fleet rant
I've fought it for so long now. Never been in a fleet. Been in a clan, though and you know what? I hate drama. Especially when it comes to gaming, which is my escape from drama.
Feeling the pressure though. Also, tired of feeling like a third rate customer. You are not in a fleet. You can not buy this, go here, play that. I didn't feel this shutout being F2P.
On the plus side, I get most of my gear from the exchange so, may not be as good, but cheaper is.
you are mistaken.. just being in an active fleet is enough to get to the top ranks of the fleet system.
its not like you have to go out of your way to get these items..
unlike the old way, where you had to do a doff mission to get an artifact, power it up by collecting the items required.. then doing another doff mission to get a random reward.. which was always something you never wanted or could use. or buy it off the exchange for some insane amount.
[12:44] Vessel One of Two Unimatrix 01 deals 1019527 (1157678) Kinetic Damage to you with Plasma Energy Bolt Explosion.
I make 600-1mil per toon just doing 1 farm mission and selling any MK X of value on the exchange or vendoring the rest. i dont think losing end game Tac consoles is going to kill my ability to make EC's considering I have never gotten a MK XII purple anything from those farm missions much less a 25 million EC tac console... What will happen is some people who make 100 million a week on the exchange off these consoles will now make far less. Cry me a river, they can grind and overprice marion instead!
What will happen is exchange prices will drop to a reasonable level based on what the buyers are willing to pay for and the minimum sellars are willing to sell. As is now MK XII blue is max the price of any of these items should be selling for in MK XII purple rather than 500k to a 19.5+ million ec jump. Absurd inflation.
As for disruptor or phaser only??? Are you insane? So all the advanced and elite fleet weapons that are NOT phaser or disruptor will not get a matching tac console? That does not make sense.
I look forward to that myself. I want better gear!!! I want to try something new in 6 monthes.
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