I am sick of Cryptic focusing on fixing TRIBBLE while ignoring the real game breaking bugs that exist in this game. All they ever do is ruin the game even further.
Kerrat was fine the way it was even with the "Switching sides" bug but now that they have fixed that it is impossible for a KDF player to play that map. It is just a federation camp ground now and the only advantage that the KDF had was a battle cloak and they do not even have that any-more.
I play kerrat to get drops and if the map was heavily fed as it usually is then I would switch sides to have a chance of winning but now you can't do that anymore and because there are a lot more fed players than KDF players it is almost impossible for a KDF player to win the map.
If the ability to switch allegiance is not brought back to Kerrat then it should not allow massively unbalanced teams. There should only be a 1 player swing in Kerrat in that if there are 5 kdf players and 6 fed players then it should not let any other Fed players join until the numbers are balanced at 6/6 and vice versa of course.
The map is completely unplayable as a KDF player any-more, this needs to be addressed
since when did "Cryptic focusing on fixing TRIBBLE" ? -.-
T'Kanis is away better area for loot farming then either Karret or the klingon verison of kerrat.
What you do is take the defence against the borg mission, start scanning till you get into an instance.
Then you primarily focus on borg cubes or what I like to call pinotas, break them open and loot falls out.
When you run out of cubes you maybe tempted to bail don't, focus on the spheres for a little bit and more cubes enter the instance. Blows those up when they do, go back to focusing on the spheres for awhile, then cubes when they refresh and so on.
I've made millions of ec from these loot drops. Just remeber once you destroyed the six squads you are not required to leave the instance, you can keep on killing borg for loot.
I do not know if the federation has an equivalant to K'tanis nebula.
So my routine is do the foundry loot heavy mission till foundry gives no more loot, turn in contraband, commenadation for marks doff assignment, and any other little jobs, set up the T Kanis Nebula mission and then go and blow up borg cubes and occasion throw in a fleet alert and Vault Ensnared for variety.
Yes, the game needs more maps like Kerrat where you can sit there with your infinite invisibility power active and wait until someone is engaged with the PVE enemies, then re-appear and alpha strike someone at 10% and follow it up with childish remarks via zone/private message...
Can't believe anyone bothered with that stupid map in the first place... I guess it's fun for the people with infinite invisibility but I don't see the draw for anyone else...
Sounds like someone was on the wrong end an alpha strike, eh? Oh, and I never make any stupid remarks after defeating someone. I go on my merry way.
If you hate people using that infinite invisibility (which you can just easily call a cloak) on you, you can roll a Klingon or Romulan and have your own.
If you don't like the place, don't go to it. Just don't ruin it for those of us who do enjoy the only real open PvP zone in the game.
Sounds like someone was on the wrong end an alpha strike, eh? Oh, and I never make any stupid remarks after defeating someone. I go on my merry way.
If you hate people using that infinite invisibility (which you can just easily call a cloak) on you, you can roll a Klingon or Romulan and have your own.
If you don't like the place, don't go to it. Just don't ruin it for those of us who do enjoy the only real open PvP zone in the game.
Not sure why people are so into farming kerrat.... I've made more EC off selling things from PVE missions and deepspace encounters. Haven't even been there with my new ROM character since LoR came out.
Only time I farm Ker'rat is when my toon is thisclose to leveling, and I can run the mission to get a few more XP to put me over the top.
I generally run Fed (don't care that much for the KDF experience, personally), and while I have occasionally had Klinks harassing my team from the back, it doesn't tend to happen that often (and when I've just respawned there with an Escort, it doesn't happen that long, either ).
Far as I can tell, though, KDF players are still having fun with it - when I've gone in there, there's always been active chatter from them.
Not sure why people are so into farming kerrat.... I've made more EC off selling things from PVE missions and deepspace encounters. Haven't even been there with my new ROM character since LoR came out.
I like to farm Ker'rat BECAUSE I get attacked by Feds or Klinks, it makes an otherwise tedious activity much more interesting.
I do hear you though. The foundry has plenty of loot farm missions that'll earn you millions of EC in no time at all, and you get some Dil as a nice bonus. If you're just interested in EC that's a far better way to go about it.
I like to farm Ker'rat BECAUSE I get attacked by Feds or Klinks, it makes an otherwise tedious activity much more interesting.
I do hear you though. The foundry has plenty of loot farm missions that'll earn you millions of EC in no time at all, and you get some Dil as a nice bonus. If you're just interested in EC that's a far better way to go about it.
That's my point, it's no use farming Kerrat unless you want the challenge of figthing other players in the process. If you're out to farm loot, there are much better options.
I may take my scim in there though this evening to see what it's like now. I can alpha strike for short periods while still cloaked
Not sure why people are so into farming kerrat.... I've made more EC off selling things from PVE missions and deepspace encounters. Haven't even been there with my new ROM character since LoR came out.
As far back as begining kerrat is known for dropping really good equipment every now then. This why many farm it.
If you don't like the place, don't go to it. Just don't ruin it for those of us who do enjoy the only real open PvP zone in the game.
in all honesty its never been the "open pvp" that's bothered me about Kerrat, it's always been the bugs.
last time i was in there were 2 tac cubes stuck in their warp in animation cycle in the middle of the map and and the normal cubes were stuck on practically all four corners and after a while several people asked the same question ie "can you guys see that too or is my PC having a fit ?" and people just up and left because it was literally headache inducing and you couldn't tell where the tac cubes actually were or attempt to do the map "properly".
...and this was straight after a Capture and Hold game where no one could win...and not because of uber play either but because it was also bugged...
the worst part is give a half decent Foundry author an hour with the tools and they could probably spit out a better map based on the same "let's fight over a (Borg) enemy" concept to be dropped straight into the game but Kerrat is now almost emblematic of Cryptics procrastination and unwillingness to bug fix something as long as people can still play with it at all...
since when did "Cryptic focusing on fixing TRIBBLE" ? -.-
What I meant by this comment is that they never fix what people actually want fixing and then just go and ruin bugs that are actually to the players advantage. Totally lopsided
Population is so unbalanced now I'm forced to troll on my sci brel using every doff and cheese console there is and sci spamming and decloaking people while cloaked. Just pick a KDF player that you think will be attacked a lot, then wait by him cloaked, when the Romulans decloak, subnuc and hit them with other consoles and sci spam, if they try to cloak again evasives up to them and CPB or tractor, then continue to spam them. Many end up leaving out of fustration then the population gets more balanced, making it playable for my KDF tac afterwards.
Its easy to build as it doesn't need rep or best gear, just needs good doffs mostly so everyone KDF should make a sci brel and keep it logged off near kerrat to help deal with Fed Roms. I get called a douche and a troll a lot with my sci brel so know it works great and is fun, and only way to stop the infestation.
I do the same thing (minus the cheese rep buffd/consoles) as my tac in my fleet norgh - it might not be a true pvp build (its pretty underpowered dps wise) but after a while of launching debuff chains, rainbow turrets and chroniton/breen spam, let alone giving those pesky torpvaros a particle blast TRIBBLE, they really do give up often (not that thats my plan...more I've gotten bored of the cookie cutter dbb+dhc/dhc routine so tried to make my bop more fun to fly)
Problem now is kerrats gone from 'hunt for red october' to 'hide and go seek' - before, feds were numerous, but vulnerable due to the element of surprise...
..now however, they have numbers and surprise capability - let alone the laundry list of superior 5 fore gun/5 tac console ships, or the fact the romulans on either side have near fed hull and shield, yet their drawbacks can be mitigated - unlike kdf ships (unless you have a bizzare compulsion to spend your game life trying to get jevonite bulkheads and stack your sci slots with field gens)
This major difference broke the fairly natural 'ecosystem' of the kerrat battlefield - from wolves among the sheep to wolves amongst the sheep armed with wolf seeking missile turrets
T'Kanis is away better area for loot farming then either Karret or the klingon verison of kerrat.
What you do is take the defence against the borg mission, start scanning till you get into an instance.
Then you primarily focus on borg cubes or what I like to call pinotas, break them open and loot falls out.
When you run out of cubes you maybe tempted to bail don't, focus on the spheres for a little bit and more cubes enter the instance. Blows those up when they do, go back to focusing on the spheres for awhile, then cubes when they refresh and so on.
I've made millions of ec from these loot drops. Just remeber once you destroyed the six squads you are not required to leave the instance, you can keep on killing borg for loot.
I do not know if the federation has an equivalant to K'tanis nebula.
So my routine is do the foundry loot heavy mission till foundry gives no more loot, turn in contraband, commenadation for marks doff assignment, and any other little jobs, set up the T Kanis Nebula mission and then go and blow up borg cubes and occasion throw in a fleet alert and Vault Ensnared for variety.
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I'll have to check that out myself, it's been some time since I've run T'Kanis, because there's a lot of other stuff to spend time PvEing. I'm always interested in finding new places to loot-farm, since that's how I generally earn EC.
This thread made me want to switch back to my BoP.
For goodol'times sake.
BoP pilots don't go there to win the mission or to PvP. They juts go there for fun.
De-cloacking alpha never get's old, getting someone with their pants on is sweet.
Yea, monster play iz good.
Agreed, getting PvP kills for the 'kill 10 Federation ships' mission, and doing the other applicable missions, is only about half the reason I go to Ker'rat. The rest has to do with the fact that it's fun to fly a BoP in Ker'rat. You have room to move around, and you have time on your side. You can wait for the opportune moment to strike, rather than feeling pressured to decloak and fire madly before some kill counter is filled (like in arena), which is a sure way to get yourself blown up for little gain. I've been known to spend hours flying around Ker'rat chatting in zone/other chats while blowing up the occasional Feddie. It's a fun thing to do, much more interesting than grinding the same old PvE again and again.
I enjoy Ker'rat as is. Nothing puts a smile on my face in STO more than killing some farmer just before he makes his NPC kill.
I do however practice restraint. I don't farm a player and normally leave them alone after I kill them once. Unless of course, they seek revenge. Then it's on.
You know Cryptic has Jumped the Proverbial Shark when they introduced Tractor Pulling to Star Trek Online!
Good.... Dont you have a similar open PVP (K vs K) map near your home planet? If KDF stop showing up then I can farm in peace without cocky BOP captians trying to Alpha strike me all the time.
Feds have a MOUNTAIN of ways to get items, never mind the amount of content. Ker'rat is an open PvP zone. It's no secret that it's been that way for years. When you choose to enter, that's no one's fault but your own.
I don't mind being out numbered as long as I kill 1-3 feds before I die its ok... today is a good day to die;)
Yes, I used to take my KDF in there occasionally and would check how many fed vessels had to gang up on me to take me down.... typically took 5-6 in my Bortasqu.
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since when did "Cryptic focusing on fixing TRIBBLE" ? -.-
What you do is take the defence against the borg mission, start scanning till you get into an instance.
Then you primarily focus on borg cubes or what I like to call pinotas, break them open and loot falls out.
When you run out of cubes you maybe tempted to bail don't, focus on the spheres for a little bit and more cubes enter the instance. Blows those up when they do, go back to focusing on the spheres for awhile, then cubes when they refresh and so on.
I've made millions of ec from these loot drops. Just remeber once you destroyed the six squads you are not required to leave the instance, you can keep on killing borg for loot.
I do not know if the federation has an equivalant to K'tanis nebula.
So my routine is do the foundry loot heavy mission till foundry gives no more loot, turn in contraband, commenadation for marks doff assignment, and any other little jobs, set up the T Kanis Nebula mission and then go and blow up borg cubes and occasion throw in a fleet alert and Vault Ensnared for variety.
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Sounds like someone was on the wrong end an alpha strike, eh? Oh, and I never make any stupid remarks after defeating someone. I go on my merry way.
If you hate people using that infinite invisibility (which you can just easily call a cloak) on you, you can roll a Klingon or Romulan and have your own.
If you don't like the place, don't go to it. Just don't ruin it for those of us who do enjoy the only real open PvP zone in the game.
Not sure why people are so into farming kerrat.... I've made more EC off selling things from PVE missions and deepspace encounters. Haven't even been there with my new ROM character since LoR came out.
I generally run Fed (don't care that much for the KDF experience, personally), and while I have occasionally had Klinks harassing my team from the back, it doesn't tend to happen that often (and when I've just respawned there with an Escort, it doesn't happen that long, either
Far as I can tell, though, KDF players are still having fun with it - when I've gone in there, there's always been active chatter from them.
I like to farm Ker'rat BECAUSE I get attacked by Feds or Klinks, it makes an otherwise tedious activity much more interesting.
I do hear you though. The foundry has plenty of loot farm missions that'll earn you millions of EC in no time at all, and you get some Dil as a nice bonus. If you're just interested in EC that's a far better way to go about it.
That's my point, it's no use farming Kerrat unless you want the challenge of figthing other players in the process. If you're out to farm loot, there are much better options.
I may take my scim in there though this evening to see what it's like now. I can alpha strike for short periods while still cloaked
And I have more patience than St. Josephs Hospital- Me.
That sounds better in the original Klingon.
As far back as begining kerrat is known for dropping really good equipment every now then. This why many farm it.
R.I.P
last time i was in there were 2 tac cubes stuck in their warp in animation cycle in the middle of the map and and the normal cubes were stuck on practically all four corners and after a while several people asked the same question ie "can you guys see that too or is my PC having a fit ?" and people just up and left because it was literally headache inducing and you couldn't tell where the tac cubes actually were or attempt to do the map "properly".
...and this was straight after a Capture and Hold game where no one could win...and not because of uber play either but because it was also bugged...
the worst part is give a half decent Foundry author an hour with the tools and they could probably spit out a better map based on the same "let's fight over a (Borg) enemy" concept to be dropped straight into the game but Kerrat is now almost emblematic of Cryptics procrastination and unwillingness to bug fix something as long as people can still play with it at all...
1) create KDF PvE instances of Starbase 24
2) create open PVP instances of Starbase 24 with loot drops turned off
3) delete Kerrat
What I meant by this comment is that they never fix what people actually want fixing and then just go and ruin bugs that are actually to the players advantage. Totally lopsided
I do the same thing (minus the cheese rep buffd/consoles) as my tac in my fleet norgh - it might not be a true pvp build (its pretty underpowered dps wise) but after a while of launching debuff chains, rainbow turrets and chroniton/breen spam, let alone giving those pesky torpvaros a particle blast TRIBBLE, they really do give up often (not that thats my plan...more I've gotten bored of the cookie cutter dbb+dhc/dhc routine so tried to make my bop more fun to fly)
Problem now is kerrats gone from 'hunt for red october' to 'hide and go seek' - before, feds were numerous, but vulnerable due to the element of surprise...
..now however, they have numbers and surprise capability - let alone the laundry list of superior 5 fore gun/5 tac console ships, or the fact the romulans on either side have near fed hull and shield, yet their drawbacks can be mitigated - unlike kdf ships (unless you have a bizzare compulsion to spend your game life trying to get jevonite bulkheads and stack your sci slots with field gens)
This major difference broke the fairly natural 'ecosystem' of the kerrat battlefield - from wolves among the sheep to wolves amongst the sheep armed with wolf seeking missile turrets
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I'll have to check that out myself, it's been some time since I've run T'Kanis, because there's a lot of other stuff to spend time PvEing. I'm always interested in finding new places to loot-farm, since that's how I generally earn EC.
Agreed, getting PvP kills for the 'kill 10 Federation ships' mission, and doing the other applicable missions, is only about half the reason I go to Ker'rat. The rest has to do with the fact that it's fun to fly a BoP in Ker'rat. You have room to move around, and you have time on your side. You can wait for the opportune moment to strike, rather than feeling pressured to decloak and fire madly before some kill counter is filled (like in arena), which is a sure way to get yourself blown up for little gain. I've been known to spend hours flying around Ker'rat chatting in zone/other chats while blowing up the occasional Feddie. It's a fun thing to do, much more interesting than grinding the same old PvE again and again.
I do however practice restraint. I don't farm a player and normally leave them alone after I kill them once. Unless of course, they seek revenge. Then it's on.
Surprise over.
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Yes, I used to take my KDF in there occasionally and would check how many fed vessels had to gang up on me to take me down.... typically took 5-6 in my Bortasqu.