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Massively Visits Cryptic (Pt. 1)

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Massively's STO Columnist Terilynn Shull recently visited Cryptic Studios to talk to the team. In this week's Captain's Log entry, she writes about her interview with Lead Designer Al "CaptainGeko" Rivera.


Link to the column.
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  • seannewboyseannewboy Member Posts: 667 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    Awesome stuff in that article.
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  • atatassaultatatassault Member Posts: 1,008 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    This was nice, I guess. But I feel that it seems like the Devs react and talk the most only to the prominent media people that cover STO. And the major people that cover STO are not game mechanically inclined.

    Dan Stahl's interviews have often had ship questions, and he defers to Al Rivera. But whenever the major media interviews Rivera, they always seem to not ask Rivera the hard ship questions. Like, New Ships are getting more powerful all the time (The Scimitar makes the Galaxy even more obsolete than it already was [yes, I realize no character has access to both ships, but if there was a choice, nobody would choose the Galaxy]).

    Older ships need to be brought up to new standards. Crappy stats and Crappy Boff layouts need to be revised. Ideally, Stats should be decoupled from the looks of the ship, be we know that's never going to happen.
  • lordmalak1lordmalak1 Member Posts: 4,681 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    Yawn.

    Another 'convert STO to Neverwinter' interview.

    "Response to LoR has been incredible" obviously means that the team is thrilled that STO survived the infusion of new material so infused with bugs.
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  • purplegamerpurplegamer Member Posts: 1,015 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    lordmalak1 wrote: »
    Yawn.

    Another 'convert STO to Neverwinter' interview.

    "Response to LoR has been incredible" obviously means that the team is thrilled that STO survived the infusion of new material so infused with bugs.

    I do get the distinct impression that STO is being left to wait around for Neverwinter updates and the STO team hopes that each Neverwinter update contains something they can port into STO. It's cheap and incredibly lazy, but they can still rake in the fantasy fulfillment cash that's keeping this game afloat.

    I can't get more disillusioned about this game than I am right now.
  • raventomoeraventomoe Member Posts: 723 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    To break up the raining on the parade going on here. I have a question.

    What is the ship being shown in the article? Is that the Vet Rewards ship or something else you guys are working on?
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  • robeasomrobeasom Member Posts: 1,911 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    I would love to see what Cryptic would do regarding crafting and what reward the people who have crafted stuff will get. Oh look a crafting reputation and your reward is 50 crafting reputation points keep griding to get to tier V crafting to get a MXII Aegis set which is obsolete compared to the other sets
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  • lordmanzelotlordmanzelot Member Posts: 468 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    This ship looks nice like the "real" TNG romulan ships.
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  • phantomeightphantomeight Member Posts: 567 Bug Hunter
    edited July 2013
    To bring up an old sore..... you gotta love how Massively keeps getting exclusives after twisting the words of a dev in a non official forum... I cannot stand them after they did this.

    http://massively.joystiq.com/2012/05/15/star-trek-online-dev-not-concerned-with-losing-global-playabilit/

    From that point on we've never enjoyed the company of the devs on the forums like we used to. I will never forget the awkward blackout where no dev posted for a long time.

    All we usually get now are sanitized dev blogs on a schedule. Shame on us for hinging on their every word and treating it as gospel, then freaking out when something changes or doesn't quite pan out as a dev mentioned. Shame on Massively for ruining anything that was left.
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  • redshirtthefirstredshirtthefirst Member Posts: 415 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    raventomoe wrote: »
    To break up the raining on the parade going on here. I have a question.

    What is the ship being shown in the article? Is that the Vet Rewards ship or something else you guys are working on?

    My bet: the 1000 day vet reward ship for romulans....
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  • stirling191stirling191 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    "Numbers just keep going up"

    STO had seen an increase in players because of the implementation of the fleet and reputation systems


    Excuse me while I go laugh my TRIBBLE off...
  • starfish1701starfish1701 Member Posts: 782 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    The Romulan Scout Ship, and the Science Vessel! :eek:

    The Romulan Vet Ship looks really great! :D

    As a Life Time Subscriber, I am really happy with these additions.
  • atatassaultatatassault Member Posts: 1,008 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    To bring up an old sore..... you gotta love how Massively keeps getting exclusives after twisting the words of a dev in a non official forum... I cannot stand them after they did this.

    http://massively.joystiq.com/2012/05/15/star-trek-online-dev-not-concerned-with-losing-global-playabilit/

    From that point on we've never enjoyed the company of the devs on the forums like we used to. I will never forget the awkward blackout where no dev posted for a long time.

    All we usually get now are sanitized dev blogs on a schedule. Shame on us for hinging on their every word and treating it as gospel, then freaking out when something changes or doesn't quite pan out as a dev mentioned. Shame on Massively for ruining anything that was left.
    Indeed. The Devs aren't chatty any more after that.
  • stevilfirebrandstevilfirebrand Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    I don't think they're working on crafting just now... but possibly in the future. That's how I read it anyway.
  • daveynydaveyny Member Posts: 8,227 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    I'm not really sure what some folks are expecting...

    Do you really think that Cryptic is going to do anything but go with positive news reporting??

    Their first concern is making money... obviously.

    If that happens to coincide with the game becoming better..., great.

    If not, then They are going to go with what ever makes the most of said money, and we as the players will either have to learn to live with it or move on.

    The days of the Devs' being open and honest with us ended shortly after PWE took over...

    Anybody who has been around since the beginning can see this for themselves and those of you who are new to the game will eventually understand this also.



    The selling of Star Trek has always been about the biggest bang for the IP owners buck with the least possible amount of effort...
    (just like most things in todays world)

    As long as we (Star Trek Fans) are willing to give them our cash for "whatever" They deliver, Cryptic/PWE is going to go the same route as just about every other Trek Vendor.
    (with very few exceptions)

    We can pizz and moan all we want about how things have changed, but the only real way to effect these changes, is by deciding to NOT support them with our money...

    Unfortunately, in the long run, that will only harm us, as most likely it would result in the game closing down.

    BTW: I found the pictures included..., more interesting than the article itself. :D
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  • crypticarmsmancrypticarmsman Member Posts: 4,115 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    daveyny wrote: »
    The days of the Devs' being open and honest with us ended shortly after PWE took over...

    UIm, they ended the day STO started Open Beta in 2009. Period. (And I'm not trying to go after the Dev Team per se -- but in the end, this IS ALL a business, and the primary goal of any company is profit <-- that allows the doors to remain open, salaries to be paid, etc.

    If you truly believe the Dev's attitude is different from the days Cryptic first launched STO (and was owned by Atari -- or hell, back when they were working on CoH); then you have a big pair of rose colored glasses, or no understanding of marketing or business.

    The marketing end has actual.ly improved since PWE took over. (Whether you like the style of marketing is irrelevant'; but honestly Cryptic left completely to it's own devices did a sub standard job of marketing it's products.)

    But in the end, these days, Cryptic Devs are no more or less 'upfront/honest' then they have been since Cryptic employees have been interacting with the public since their CoH days.
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  • manwholaughsmanwholaughs Member Posts: 65 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    "Numbers just keep going up"

    STO had seen an increase in players because of the implementation of the fleet and reputation systems


    Excuse me while I go laugh my TRIBBLE off...

    You beat me to it.

    Whatever hope I had for the future of this game just shot right out of the window, at least now I know.

    To Dan Stahl and his little gang, you might be able to kid yourselves with this BS you now spew on a daily basis, and sure you might be able to fool a percentage of your customers for a time, but sooner or later you'll be seen for what you truly are.
  • daveynydaveyny Member Posts: 8,227 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    UIm, they ended the day STO started Open Beta in 2009. Period. (And I'm not trying to go after the Dev Team per se -- but in the end, this IS ALL a business, and the primary goal of any company is profit <-- that allows the doors to remain open, salaries to be paid, etc.

    If you truly believe the Dev's attitude is different from the days Cryptic first launched STO (and was owned by Atari -- or hell, back when they were working on CoH); then you have a big pair of rose colored glasses, or no understanding of marketing or business.

    The marketing end has actual.ly improved since PWE took over. (Whether you like the style of marketing is irrelevant'; but honestly Cryptic left completely to it's own devices did a sub standard job of marketing it's products.)

    But in the end, these days, Cryptic Devs are no more or less 'upfront/honest' then they have been since Cryptic employees have been interacting with the public since their CoH days.

    Well, up till PWE took over, it seemed the Dev's comments in the forums were more numerous and open to me anyway.

    Perhaps I was wearing that particular shade of glasses, but one can't deny that things around here certainly changed at that point...

    Whether it has been for the better or worse, is up to each individual I guess.

    I have found myself spending less time in the forums lately as most of what I read around here has become even more negative than seemed in the past.
    (which I partially tribute to a lack of Dev presence, but of course that is also just my opinion.)
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  • daveynydaveyny Member Posts: 8,227 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    You beat me to it.

    Whatever hope I had for the future of this game just shot right out of the window, at least now I know.

    To Dan Stahl and his little gang, you might be able to kid yourselves with this BS you now spew on a daily basis, and sure you might be able to fool a percentage of your customers for a time, but sooner or later you'll be seen for what you truly are.

    I don't doubt that Their numbers have been increasing, I'm just not sure Their 'retention' is all that great.
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  • movodormovodor Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    I like how people with no access whatsoever to game data-much less population data specifically-think they know how the game is going :)

    I probably won't fly the romulan vet ship since I have my fleet d'd and scimitar, but pretty ship nonetheless.
  • obsidiusrexobsidiusrex Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    To bring up an old sore..... you gotta love how Massively keeps getting exclusives after twisting the words of a dev in a non official forum... I cannot stand them after they did this.

    http://massively.joystiq.com/2012/05/15/star-trek-online-dev-not-concerned-with-losing-global-playabilit/

    From that point on we've never enjoyed the company of the devs on the forums like we used to. I will never forget the awkward blackout where no dev posted for a long time.

    All we usually get now are sanitized dev blogs on a schedule. Shame on us for hinging on their every word and treating it as gospel, then freaking out when something changes or doesn't quite pan out as a dev mentioned. Shame on Massively for ruining anything that was left.

    It's why I created Obsidius' First Rule of the Forums, although I should amend the rule to include things like tweets from a dev's personal Twitter account, etc.
    You beat me to it.

    Whatever hope I had for the future of this game just shot right out of the window, at least now I know.

    To Dan Stahl and his little gang, you might be able to kid yourselves with this BS you now spew on a daily basis, and sure you might be able to fool a percentage of your customers for a time, but sooner or later you'll be seen for what you truly are.
    This sort of ire is cliche. If you really have that much antipathy for "Dan Stahl and his little gang," you could probably better use your time elsewhere. Schadenfreude can only amuse a person for so long, amusing that time actually comes.
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  • crypticarmsmancrypticarmsman Member Posts: 4,115 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    daveyny wrote: »
    Well, up till PWE took over, it seemed the Dev's comments in the forums were more numerous and open to me anyway.

    Perhaps I was wearing that particular shade of glasses, but one can't deny that things around here certainly changed at that point...

    Whether it has been for the better or worse, is up to each individual I guess.

    It's (for example) true that certain Devs (and DStahl in particular) do not post more about the far off, long range plans for STO as they used to -- BUT, remember, that style of posting lead to them being labeled as 'liars', 'dishonest', etc. if a long term plan was abandoned, changed significantly, or delayed; and many players from that time said up front -- "Hey, why don't you wait until you're 99% certain what you post will come to pass?" -- and in the end, that's the path they've taken since; which honestly overall probably leads to less stress for DStahl; and less nerd rage on the Forums with regard to 'broken promises' (Yes, those type of posts continue; but not to the degree when we were getting the monthly Engineering Reports , when a group saw that their favorite upcoming listed feature was not moving up the list; or worse, disappeared altogether.

    I kind of miss those days myself, (and for all those saying "They just need to post a disclaimer..." -- they DID, but the ragers had selective memory when that point was brought up -- so in the end, such disclaimers do nothing to lessen the angry response of someone who's really wanted STO feature addition gets shelved/axed for whatever reason, be it a good/understandable or a bad reason.)
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  • masterkeychnk5masterkeychnk5 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    Yes...

    YEs.....

    YESSSSSSSSSSS!!!

    MOAR GRIND!! I LUV IT.

    I will be the first to announce: "I LOVE TO GRIND REPUTATION!!!!!"


    Honestly I do, dont oppose me. Great job Al Riviera keep it up ;)

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  • stirling191stirling191 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    daveyny wrote: »
    I don't doubt that Their numbers have been increasing, I'm just not sure Their 'retention' is all that great.

    The epicly hilarious part is that those very same words describe the resource sinks that keep getting piled on players. I know it's more than likely not what Gecko meant, but the simple fact that words coming out of his mouth echo the complaints of a not insignificant number of players, and then him turning around and saying that those very things are good for the game is just so beyond absurd you can't help but laugh at it.
  • thumpyechothumpyecho Member Posts: 298 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    ".....but it will likely have a new reputation faction associated with it."

    ...ughhhh...really?.....I dunno maybe it's just me...maybe I'm weird....
  • lordmalak1lordmalak1 Member Posts: 4,681 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    daveyny wrote: »
    I don't doubt that Their numbers have been increasing, I'm just not sure Their 'retention' is all that great.

    I'm sure they count those accounts that haven't been logged into in months as active, just like the mule accounts that have to be created to work around their mail mess.
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  • daveynydaveyny Member Posts: 8,227 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    It's (for example) true that certain Devs (and DStahl in particular) do not post more about the far off, long range plans for STO as they used to -- BUT, remember, that style of posting lead to them being labeled as 'liars', 'dishonest', etc. if a long term plan was abandoned, changed significantly, or delayed; and many players from that time said up front -- "Hey, why don't you wait until you're 99% certain what you post will come to pass?" -- and in the end, that's the path they've taken since; which honestly overall probably leads to less stress for DStahl; and less nerd rage on the Forums with regard to 'broken promises' (Yes, those type of posts continue; but not to the degree when we were getting the monthly Engineering Reports , when a group saw that their favorite upcoming listed feature was not moving up the list; or worse, disappeared altogether.

    I kind of miss those days myself, (and for all those saying "They just need to post a disclaimer..." -- they DID, but the ragers had selective memory when that point was brought up -- so in the end, such disclaimers do nothing to lessen the angry response of someone who's really wanted STO feature addition gets shelved/axed for whatever reason, be it a good/understandable or a bad reason.)

    I wish I had time to locate His last one...
    (have to go to work shortly)

    It would be interesting to see how many of the things listed, actually got impelmented in one way or another.

    I wonder if any of the 'ragers' would be any happier???
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  • stirling191stirling191 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    lordmalak1 wrote: »
    I'm sure they count those accounts that haven't been logged into in months as active, just like the mule accounts that have to be created to work around their mail mess.

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  • f8explorer#7814 f8explorer Member Posts: 1,328 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    seannewboy wrote: »
    Awesome stuff in that article.

    The visuals were REALLY awesome ... love the look of the vet ship.
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  • f8explorer#7814 f8explorer Member Posts: 1,328 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    To bring up an old sore..... you gotta love how Massively keeps getting exclusives after twisting the words of a dev in a non official forum... I cannot stand them after they did this.

    http://massively.joystiq.com/2012/05/15/star-trek-online-dev-not-concerned-with-losing-global-playabilit/

    From that point on we've never enjoyed the company of the devs on the forums like we used to. I will never forget the awkward blackout where no dev posted for a long time.

    All we usually get now are sanitized dev blogs on a schedule. Shame on us for hinging on their every word and treating it as gospel, then freaking out when something changes or doesn't quite pan out as a dev mentioned. Shame on Massively for ruining anything that was left.

    Sometimes it becomes necessary to separate the writers from the publication.

    Terry Lynn does good work with her articles and the devs know this.
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  • wilvwilv Member Posts: 390 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    raventomoe wrote: »
    To break up the raining on the parade going on here. I have a question.

    What is the ship being shown in the article? Is that the Vet Rewards ship or something else you guys are working on?

    I think all the pics (except the first 2) are the vet rewards. I know the big ship is the 1000 day reward, the small ship is the 400 day reward and I think the cape and shoulders might be the 500 day reward.
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