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el1m
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I am sick of Cryptic focusing on fixing TRIBBLE while ignoring the real game breaking bugs that exist in this game. All they ever do is ruin the game even further.
Kerrat was fine the way it was even with the "Switching sides" bug but now that they have fixed that it is impossible for a KDF player to play that map. It is just a federation camp ground now and the only advantage that the KDF had was a battle cloak and they do not even have that any-more.
I play kerrat to get drops and if the map was heavily fed as it usually is then I would switch sides to have a chance of winning but now you can't do that anymore and because there are a lot more fed players than KDF players it is almost impossible for a KDF player to win the map.
If the ability to switch allegiance is not brought back to Kerrat then it should not allow massively unbalanced teams. There should only be a 1 player swing in Kerrat in that if there are 5 kdf players and 6 fed players then it should not let any other Fed players join until the numbers are balanced at 6/6 and vice versa of course.
The map is completely unplayable as a KDF player any-more, this needs to be addressed
Kerrat was fine the way it was even with the "Switching sides" bug but now that they have fixed that it is impossible for a KDF player to play that map. It is just a federation camp ground now and the only advantage that the KDF had was a battle cloak and they do not even have that any-more.
I play kerrat to get drops and if the map was heavily fed as it usually is then I would switch sides to have a chance of winning but now you can't do that anymore and because there are a lot more fed players than KDF players it is almost impossible for a KDF player to win the map.
If the ability to switch allegiance is not brought back to Kerrat then it should not allow massively unbalanced teams. There should only be a 1 player swing in Kerrat in that if there are 5 kdf players and 6 fed players then it should not let any other Fed players join until the numbers are balanced at 6/6 and vice versa of course.
The map is completely unplayable as a KDF player any-more, this needs to be addressed
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I have a poor sense of time but I think it was in the past year they said that
Aww... did you get blasted while in a PvP zone? All I can say is what I usually say.
Welcome to Kerrat. Enjoy the PvPvE zone.
I'm in agreement with this guy.
Whilst i don't go out of my way to attack KDF players when i'm hunting for drops, Sometimes i've even passed within 3Km of somebody in a bop, who's having trouble with a cube.
I Draw the aggro, they take down the cube, and then proceed to cloak/alphanuke/clustermine/cloak me again and again.
Not to mention, i'll never fire at spawn, but instead of the KDF players, you know, Hunting the spawnkillers they will endlessly attack the lone cruiser who's loot hunting.
One thing i've noticed, i hardly ever see BoP's engaging escorts. They will almost always target ships that have no chance against them.
I do agree that spawn camping is just... low. Very low.
Always seemed to be a fed ball at spawn.. but whatever I just warp out.
If you guys want to go hunt in ker'rat one day let me know, ill get out some of the old cloaking ships
Your Javelin deals 125417 (89066) Disruptor Damage(Critical) to Tholian Recluse. > lol
You think that KDF has enough players to fight themself? EVEN THOUGH Its a PvP factoin? And Stop... you know KDF has Qo'nos and Gandala and Semi Risa.. and you have Sol System, Vulcan, Andoria, Space Stations of Coutless Galor! KDF has nothign to show for, EVEN RUTHA PENTHE is blcoked to us! And no we have no planetlike that.... only ones we get are Otha in Eta as well as one or two others.. thats IT.
Thats the thing if they forced balanced teams in Kerrat I wouldn't have a problem but they don't. I complete the map mission in less than 5 minutes easy solo, takes them muppets twice that with a whole fleet but you just can't compete because you decloak and there are three or four of them there to crush you in seconds.
Before the fix in Kerrat you would get klingons attacking you there too
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Thanks for the heads up, its not exactly the same but the drops are the same so N'vak will be my new haunt!
Definitely, Feds spawn kill much more than KDF players (Infact, i've never seen more than 3-4 KDF in one game so them spawnkilling me is a nonissue.)
The main problem i have, is the "Let's ignore the guys who are parked around spawn, and hunt down the Cruiser who doesn't even have a chance to fire back before your Cluster torps blow him to pieces" thing.
So what you're really saying, is that Kerrat wasn't fine "even with" the allegiance bug, but only because of the allegiance bug. That you need Federation players to be forced into supporting the Klingon Empire against their will. That was and will continue to be unacceptable.
Now if they want to put in something that lets people switch teams voluntarily, fine. If they want to betray the Federation, or simply stop you from spawncamping them by being on your team, I'm fine with that. As long as it's the player's choice. I insist however that in any map where Klingons fire upon Federation vessels, I be able to fire upon the Klingon vessels. I do not think that's an unreasonable position for me to take.
Really though, most Feds in Kerrat are there for the three daily missions, or the loot from the PvE bit. As opposed to the Klingons, who do really nothing but skulk around while cloaked and attack the cruiser fighting the tactical cube while it's shields are drained. I hardly think you're deserving (or in need) of any help at all, under those circumstances.
Or perhaps, considering it's a Borg infested region of space, you'd be happier if we enforced the Pax Omega there.
Ker'rat is the Fed map, N'Vak is the KDF map.
So basically, you are saying you want to limit the amount of Feds that can enter a Fed map.
1. Spawncamping. Only once or twice in all the time I've been in Kerrat have I seen a KDF camp. Yet at almost every single reset, the Feds would camp the KDF's spawn point (or try to).
2. Running away in a fight/decloaking alphas on weak targets. Um, ok, you try go for sustained battle in a hull and shield weak ship (a BoP). Oh, and why would you not attack the weak target? But anyway, I see Feds running away waaaay more often.
3. KDF players can't fight alone so that's why they need multiple people. Yeah, no. That should be better applied to Feds.
Keep on truckin', KDF players.
As for being fed only yesterday i did my Keratt daily the KDF out numbered us Feds 3-1. Trying to get node transmissions with a PvP nut on yer tail. :P
But its all pot luck as i said.
As for getting rid of Kerrat. No its a fun open zone. We need more of them not lose the only one we have.
I only go for the daily dill. I never do Keratt in a cruiser. BoP, Defiant Retro, Tvaro retro. Small fast elusive and cloaked. Anything else is madness doing the loot runs with mad PvP and Borglets.
No what I am saying is that the teams per zone should be balanced, not allowing 10 feds and one KDF. It should stop more feds entering that zone if they already have one more ship in zone than the KDF and vice versa
We all know damn well that they will take every single opportunity to camp Fed players, just as Fed players do, sure, they probably don't get the chance as often as Fed players do, since Kerrat usually has more Feds, but don't act all high and mighty by pretending all the things Fed players do in that map is beneath you KDF people.
It's ultimately pointless to fight the people at spawn, because they respawn within 10 seconds. It's just an endless battle with the attackers eventually wearing down. KDF doesn't like to spawncamp in Ker'rat nearly as much as the Federation does, it's boring.
Eventually more KDF show up to even the odds, and suddenly the Federation doesn't have the advantage of numbers and starts getting blown up. Rather than organizing and fighting in a zone intended for PvP combat, the Federation just abandons the zone en-masse and just clutters up some other zone, stacking the odds 2-3 to 1 again.
When the odds are even, that's when Ker'rat gets really interesting. Federation players rarely want it to be interesting, because it interferes with their mindless, routine PvE farming.
I've noticed this particular chain of events happening regularly, and it sometimes culminates with a Feddie mining the spawn in order to keep the KDF dispersed (a sign of desperation, imo). Very rarely do I ever see a KDF player mining the spawn.
To the folks whining about KDF players 'picking on' solitary targets, let me explain something to you: A lot of the folks in Ker'rat are flying BoPs, since Ker'rat is the best place for BoPs to be used PvP-wise due to their limitations. BoPs are rarely able to actually stand up against a Fleet escort or a DPS-focused cruiser/carrier. The best players can last for a while, but they eventually have to break off. At the same time, they're also usually fighting against superior numbers of Federation players (including a lot of cruisers). So 'staying and fighting' is usually pretty stupid and results in fragile BoPs getting shredded for little reason beyond satisfying some Feddies standards of 'fair combat'. Most BoP pilots prefer to shoot for 'getting the kill and surviving'.
So, BoPs tend to hunt targets in packs of 2-3 BoPs, coordinating their decloak alphas to cripple and then destroy the target. It gets us kills (which is why we're there half the time) and helps slow down the Federation at least somewhat. Quit whining about BoPs using the tactics necessary to make them truly effective in PvP.
Also, I see PLENTY of Fed-Roms using these mean, mean BoP tactics themselves, and I see no Federation players complaining about that. Hypocrisy, much?
We're not denying that KDF spawncamping happens. We're saying the Federation did it a hell of a lot more when the restart respawn was on the KDF spawnpoint. Even when the KDF have control of a zone, we don't always spawncamp.
Yes, the game needs more maps like Kerrat where you can sit there with your infinite invisibility power active and wait until someone is engaged with the PVE enemies, then re-appear and alpha strike someone at 10% and follow it up with childish remarks via zone/private message...
Can't believe anyone bothered with that stupid map in the first place... I guess it's fun for the people with infinite invisibility but I don't see the draw for anyone else...
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Its easy to build as it doesn't need rep or best gear, just needs good doffs mostly so everyone KDF should make a sci brel and keep it logged off near kerrat to help deal with Fed Roms. I get called a douche and a troll a lot with my sci brel so know it works great and is fun, and only way to stop the infestation.
Your foundless defence of the current state of Kerrat being that KDF are usually outnumbered by at least 3 to 1 leads me to believe that you worry about a fair balanced fight and that you know that you could not handle yourself if the numbers were even!
That age old argument again ''well your valid points are nothing more then you trying to maintain the status quo!!!''
I'm not worried one bit because I am barely, if ever, in Kerrat.
And now I wait for the typical ''then your opinion no matter!!!'' reply.
Again, KDF players shouldn't proudly beat their chest and give themselves a pat on the back while pretending they would never, ever, do the things that Feds do in Kerrat, because we all know that's bull**** in any open zone PvP game.
The camped side always TRIBBLE and moans about the campers and how they would never do such a thing themselves, then the moment they can turn the tables they do the exact same thing.
I guess its easier to complain about a pvp zone keeping one from farming effectively than it is to take the mature route and accept that one has willingly entered a dangerous zone.
R.I.P
Kerat is PvPvE zone. If you can't understand this simple concept then no wonder your bum is full of big red bleeding bat'leth stamp marks
You can always send a PM to fed escort player and ask him to cover for you while you do your petaQ looting.
Ain't Nobody Got Time for That
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For goodol'times sake.
BoP pilots don't go there to win the mission or to PvP. They juts go there for fun.
De-cloacking alpha never get's old, getting someone with their pants on is sweet.
Yea, monster play iz good.