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Are Saurian, Tellarite and Pakled redundant species?
tilarta
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I've been wondering why I've seen so few Saurians, Tellarites and Pakleds in comparison to the many other species.
Do the players just not like to create them?
Makes me wonder why they were included at all if the above case is true.
I mean, they're minor races at best, hardly more then cameo appearances.
Do the players just not like to create them?
Makes me wonder why they were included at all if the above case is true.
I mean, they're minor races at best, hardly more then cameo appearances.
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This is the most likely cause. In addition their traits are ground based and not the best ground based traits either.
They're being outclassed with regard to ground traits.
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Mind you, I don't believe it's that useful.
To quote a line from a movie:
You can add whatever skills/traits/combat augmentations you want, but if you're not a good player, all of that is meaningless.
Plus, if you want Efficient, play a Liberated Borg instead, they're much more aesthetically pleasing to the eye.
Yes, I know Tellarites are one of the Founding Federation species, but that's about all I know.
I'm not sure if their role has ever been expanded beyond that one fact.
Pakled I can't even make sense of, they had one episode of TNG and that qualifies them to be a playable species?
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Pakleds actually appeared or were mentioned in quite a number of episodes of Star Trek, although they were only substantial to the plot in a single episode.
Of course, the Gorn only appeared in one episode and had a cameo in another, yet it is one of the more popular KDF races, as opposed to the Letheans, who are much less popular.
Not surprisingly, Saurians, Rigelians, Tellarites, Pakleds, and Benzites, who rarely appeared in Star Trek, are not that popular.
Borg, Trills, Vulcans and strangely, Catians, are much more popular while Andorians, Bajorans, Betazoids, Bolians, Ferengi, Klingons are occassionally seen at ESD.
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I think you hit the nail on the head right there. I'm reminded of what B'Etor said
I don't know a lot of people who would find Tellarites attractive physically, and for some people that can be a determining factor.
Let us upgrade the Seleya Ceremonial Lirpa and Kri'stak Blade
There aren't many people who willingly play ugly lizards, pigs or idiots.
That said, Pakleds are a freaking joke, and assuming that the ones we saw in the episode they came from are representative of their race, for all their "cleverness" (which seems to just be people assuming they're not backstabbing thieves), they seem to be a lot more trouble than they're worth for just about every galactic power. Plus, from a gameplay point of view, although I might be wrong in terms of their traits since the revamp, but it seems like their "racial bonuses" are almost more of a curse than a boon.
Even if the game doesn't actually make a distinction, were I downed in an STF and given a chance between having the revival command be used on me by a Pakled, and being left for the Borg, I'd have to think long and hard before I made my decision.
(Please note - this is just my opinion, and is not intended to offend any Pakled fans that may be out there)
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So you don't really wonder why there are so few Captains of the species you list, you just want to ridicule those of us that chose them.:rolleyes:
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My Pakled BOFF is the only BOFF I've officially put off the ship (spaced) for incompetence.
Anyway, stupid thread.
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think it prtty much is no-one has fond memories of the specie's
Besides, Saurians make some of the best booze in the Galaxy. Saurian Brandy has the James T. Kirk Seal of Approval. :P
For Saurians I guess it's because we don't really know a whole lot about them, and their appearance customization options are rather limited.
Tellarites I dunno, I think they're awesome and I play one myself. I guess it's a combination of appearance and people wanting to maximize their trait value.
Though really, there are several Federation races that could be considred 'redundant'. Humans, Vulcans and Aliens vastly outnumber every other race from what I've seen.
The three I listed are the least common ones I see ingame.
Actually, I've only seen 2 Saurians and never any Pakleds or Tellarites.
Conversely, on the KDF side, I do see Gorn a lot, so I assumed they at least enjoyed a moderate level of success.
Letheans I rarely see though.
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Everytime someone makes a character that is an copy of an existing superhuman, Creativity is sad
They say beauty is in the eye of the beholder, and mine must be slitted. I think the Saurians looks very cool. I kind of want to make one but have run out of character slots.
I made a couple of lib borgs but kept feeling like I wasn't autistic enough.
And I was speaking purely from a humanoid point of view, Saurians aren't what we're used to, so they're not as appealing as Liberated Borg, who can appear to be fully humanoid.
As from an aesthetic point of view, the Saurians are just a joke.
Turian, Krogan, Gorn, these are good examples of reptilian species.
Just by looking at them you know they are reptiles.
The Saurians are just a pink bag stuck on a mammal's body.
And think about that for a moment, if they are a pure reptilian species, their females wouldn't have something that mammals do.
Turian and Krogan females certainly do not have that particular feature!
They resemble the males quite closely.
And for a mammallian species, telling the genders apart is quite difficult (unless the female is talking, because her voice makes it obvious).
Although for a Turian female, it's quite easy, they don't have the cranial spines that mark a male Turian.
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Everytime someone makes a character that is an copy of an existing superhuman, Creativity is sad
My primary has a Leathean bridge officer and my other KDF officer is Leathean. Leathean ships along with Ferasan ships have been often requisted for along time now.
That doesn't really tell us anything. Gorn apparently reproduce via biological fission or cloning, given that they don't actually have females at all. :P
It's been an occasional topic of discussion in some of the channels I use.
It's just because they don't resemble mammalian females that we are unable to recognize them as female.
But as far as ingame goes, I don't think there is a female Gorn available, probably because they've never been seen and Cryptic doesn't know how to depict them.
Bees like honey, they don't like vinegar.
Everytime someone makes a character that is an copy of an existing superhuman, Creativity is sad