Note Connie was retired at the end of the 23rd century, phased out by the Excelsior. Excel is a beefer version of the connie and could do everything a connie can do but better. There is no logical reason for a non zen version by the 25th century.
How do we know all of them were as there is no proof of this?It is the Miranda class a medium criuser which costs less to operate not the Excelsior which is expensive to operate yes economics do apply to the 23 and 24 centuries despite what Picard said.
I would imagine that is still a good use of this past ST6 UD
I don't beleive this for 1 minute.
On Earth, war, disease, poverty and famine have been completely abolished. Humans no longer strive to acquire wealth and instead work to better themselves and as such there is no base form of currency.
I would say there is still a stock exchange as well as free enterprise and yes rich people.
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How do we know all of them were as there is no proof of this?It is the Miranda class a medium criuser which costs less to operate not the Excelsior which is expensive to operate yes economics do apply to the 23 and 24 centuries despite what Picard said.
I would imagine that is still a good use of this past ST6 UD
I don't beleive this for 1 minute.
On Earth, war, disease, poverty and famine have been completely abolished. Humans no longer strive to acquire wealth and instead work to better themselves and as such there is no base form of currency.
I would say there is still a stock exchange as well as free enterprise and yes rich people.
BY Sto era both Excel and miranda are nearing the end of their service life. Oberth was already gone, replaced by Nova class. Miranada and Excel did well and their modular hulls allowed a long use but both classes got Hammered during DW eventually Starfleet will phase them out as thier tech improves. Romulans and KDf are not as inventive as Starfleet.
Oh and to asnwer about the connie for TNG era. Both Vistory and Stargazer were originally Connies but the writers which included gene Roddenberry that the ship was too old at this point. the only time is the 359 wreck and that's just because they still have the ST3 wreck model so might as well put it in. all evidence point to the class being retired by TNG
Oh and to asnwer about the connie for TNG era. Both Vistory and Stargazer were originally Connies but the writers which included gene Roddenberry that the ship was too old at this point. the only time is the 359 wreck and that's just because they still have the ST3 wreck model so might as well put it in. all evidence point to the class being retired by TNG
Writer intentions can only be used to verify things that actually happened. All sorts of crazy things could be theorized based on writer quirks but if they go against what was actually shown in the show you have to pick the show. The connie was there at wolf 359, star fleet still used almost every other ship from that era. The modern connie refit is a completely sensible conclusion when examining the facts of canon.
Writer intentions can only be used to verify things that actually happened. All sorts of crazy things could be theorized based on writer quirks but if they go against what was actually shown in the show you have to pick the show. The connie was there at wolf 359, star fleet still used almost every other ship from that era. The modern connie refit is a completely sensible conclusion when examining the facts of canon.
again why? The ship was replaced by Excel. Excel does EVERYTHING the connie does. I can see the ship relaunched in emergency situation when their fleet was been hit hard. Nothing further.
again why? The ship was replaced by Excel. Excel does EVERYTHING the connie does. I can see the ship relaunched in emergency situation when their fleet was been hit hard. Nothing further.
Everything the Miranda class did was done better by later ships, everything the Saratoga class did was done better by later ships, everything the Oberth class did was done better by later ships. It's an exclusive argument when actually applied to star trek so it makes no sense.
When the Ambassador class was mass produced they didn't discontinue the Excelsior class.
Why have any other type of ship when the Excelsior, Ambassador, Galaxy, and Sovereign class came out? They maintained older ships because it was economical and locally advantageous for production.
Everything the Miranda class did was done better by later ships, everything the Saratoga class did was done better by later ships, everything the Oberth class did was done better by later ships. It's an exclusive argument when actually applied to star trek so it makes no sense.
When the Ambassador class was mass produced they didn't discontinue the Excelsior class.
Why have any other type of ship when the Excelsior, Ambassador, Galaxy, and Sovereign class came out? They maintained older ships because it was economical and locally advantageous for production.
Excel Miranda and oberth are unique that they were so modular and cheap to maintain. also note by DW they had dealt with First contact and the skirmish war with the Klingons. and the first days of the DW were not good for the Fed. so we saw so many of those classes because they had litterally built hundreds of them. they at most built 100 connies. so were more availible and most already refited with modern tech. Refitting the connie with modern tech would take more time. again they could be launched but the fed will have to be in the most dire straights. Also note ALOT of those ships were destroyed during the war so their would be signifigantly less of them afterward.
BY Sto era both Excel and miranda are nearing the end of their service life. Oberth was already gone, replaced by Nova class. Miranada and Excel did well and their modular hulls allowed a long use but both classes got Hammered during DW eventually Starfleet will phase them out as thier tech improves. Romulans and KDf are not as inventive as Starfleet.
What are klingons going to do wth thier K'tingas and B'rel BoP as they go back to that era as well as both ogf the ship were launched in late 2260s and the Miranda and Excel were in late 2280s.
The reason why they won't retire the Excel and the Mranda is simple econimics thos maasive ships like the Svvies and Glaxies cost a lot to produce.It is why the Akira and Sabre come into prodution.
The only Cooniie that was really retired was the Enteprise A why because Starfleet wanted that one so it can display it at the Citiadal.They didn't want to take a chance at it getting destroyed like the first one.
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What are klingons going to do wth thier K'tingas and B'rel BoP as they go back to that era as well as both ogf the ship were launched in late 2260s and the Miranda and Excel were in late 2280s.
The reason why they won't retire the Excel and the Mranda is simple econimics thos maasive ships like the Svvies and Glaxies cost a lot to produce.It is why the Akira and Sabre come into prodution.
The only Cooniie that was really retired was the Enteprise A why because Starfleet wanted that one so it can display it at the Citiadal.They didn't want to take a chance at it getting destroyed like the first one.
then how come we didn't see any during DW? The answer. they were RETIRED. IF Starfleet had sever losses they could reactivate the connies to be fillers while the shipyards work to replace the losses with more modern ships. Face the Connie is OBSOLETE. HAd a good run and a fair good production run but her day is done.
The constitution class refit would mostly be retired yes, but there'd be a few around for reactivation if necessary like the old Iowa class battleships were. However calling the Excelsior class a "beefier" constitution is wrong entirely, she was a new design built for a new engine, Scotty said himself they over-engineered her so much because they didn't know what strain to expect from the transwarp drive, when she was refitted with a normal warp drive they found her to be a rugged and reliable design that was easy to maintain and upgrade, that's why they were being built up until the mid 23rd century and are still in full service despite there being larger and more powerful ships available.
But back to the point, there's no reason there shouldn't be a tier 5 Exeter class, she's a new design that simply looks similar to the old one, like the Lakota to the Excelsior, looks aren't everything when the Lakota showed that an old ship can be refitted to almost match a Defiant (though its still being heavily debated), this should prove that starfleet would do something like that, heck they already did it to her once in 2271 and she was only 26 years old at that point, no reason they can't do it again by simply using the basic layout slapping in some new tech and producing them in decent numbers.
then how come we didn't see any during DW? The answer. they were RETIRED. IF Starfleet had sever losses they could reactivate the connies to be fillers while the shipyards work to replace the losses with more modern ships. Face the Connie is OBSOLETE. HAd a good run and a fair good production run but her day is done.
All evidence points at the class serving, possibly in limited numbers, at least into the 2360's.
On the other hand, there is no evidence that the class was retired in favor of the Excelsior or Constellation.
But you are hellbent on holding on to your misconceptions. So, who am I to deprive you of them? :rolleyes:
I get the notion that you have a beef with the class. If so, you need to lighten up, Cap'n. It's only fiction and a game.
The constitution class refit would mostly be retired yes, but there'd be a few around for reactivation if necessary like the old Iowa class battleships were. However calling the Excelsior class a "beefier" constitution is wrong entirely, she was a new design built for a new engine, Scotty said himself they over-engineered her so much because they didn't know what strain to expect from the transwarp drive, when she was refitted with a normal warp drive they found her to be a rugged and reliable design that was easy to maintain and upgrade, that's why they were being built up until the mid 23rd century and are still in full service despite there being larger and more powerful ships available.
But back to the point, there's no reason there shouldn't be a tier 5 Exeter class, she's a new design that simply looks similar to the old one, like the Lakota to the Excelsior, looks aren't everything when the Lakota showed that an old ship can be refitted to almost match a Defiant (though its still being heavily debated), this should prove that starfleet would do something like that, heck they already did it to her once in 2271 and she was only 26 years old at that point, no reason they can't do it again by simply using the basic layout slapping in some new tech and producing them in decent numbers.
In all repects the Excel is the beefier connie, she was supposed to fill her role with the transwarp and even though the transwarp failed the design is still in essence a connie on steroids. Her stronger than adverage hull allowed her to be around. the Lakota is starfleets attempt to do the the excel what TMP did for the connie. It would extend her service life. service life. For Exeter why make her, except for nostalgia reasons.
All evidence points at the class serving, possibly in limited numbers, at least into the 2360's.
On the other hand, there is no evidence that the class was retired in favor of the Excelsior or Constellation.
But you are hellbent on holding on to your misconceptions. So, who am I to deprive you of them? :rolleyes:
I get the notion that you have a beef with the class. If so, you need to lighten up, Cap'n. It's only fiction and a game.
Where's everything I read says by turn of the century they were retired except for Republic. By 2400 enough Excels would have been produced so they could retire the class. I love the connie but i realize her day is over but should the dire need arise she could serve again. THe last built of them are in the mothball fleet. Stored should the fleet be so hit they need them till the can make more new ships.
If CBS don't want the Constitution Refit to be used as a Tier 5 ship, why can't Cryptic use the Excalibur, Vesper and Exetor class since they're are Cryptic designed 25th century types, they could still make the Fleet Cruiser Refit with those type for now. far as i see they can add the Constitution class on the Fleet Cruiser Refit at a later time when CBS decides if Cryptic could use it for T5 or not.
then how come we didn't see any during DW? The answer. they were RETIRED. IF Starfleet had sever losses they could reactivate the connies to be fillers while the shipyards work to replace the losses with more modern ships. Face the Connie is OBSOLETE. HAd a good run and a fair good production run but her day is done.
Not eveything sbout Star Trek is on the screen some of it is written down and if you know when the ships were launched.Where to look Star Trek came out way before the pc and pc gaming that is where you need to look and ADB as a lot of corect informaion Aradillo Design Burearu that made StarFleet Battles yes this game has a lot of correct info.
Besides the 23rd Century Criusers are far superior to those of the 24th or 25th except the Rigle and Ambassador class.
To all of you there fans of these ships that want to be able to use them.
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Not eveything sbout Star Trek is on the screen some of it is written down and if you know when the ships were launched.Where to look Star Trek came out way before the pc and pc gaming that is where you need to look and ADB as a lot of corect informaion Aradillo Design Burearu that made StarFleet Battles yes this game has a lot of correct info.
Besides the 23rd Century Criusers are far superior to those of the 24th or 25th except the Rigle and Ambassador class.
To all of you there fans of these ships that want to be able to use them.
Until about 2340 Excel ruled as the flagship and backbone of the fleet. Now I can see Akula, Centaur, Curry, Constellation, Soyuz, Miranda's, and Oberth during these few decades till the next tech upgrade which was the Ambaasador then another 20 or so years we have the Gal tech.
Until about 2340 Excel ruled as the flagship and backbone of the fleet. Now I can see Akula, Centaur, Curry, Constellation, Soyuz, Miranda's, and Oberth during these few decades till the next tech upgrade which was the Ambaasador then another 20 or so years we have the Gal tech.
The Excel was ruled in what way becuase it was bigger and since when does it beome flag ship.There are no flag ships in Stafleet and it is the admirals flagship not starfleets or the Captian.
It is why most USNavey carriers are flagships to the admiral on board as they have thier flag on the mast.
Bigger desn't mean better take look at the way thing s are in this game as the bigger ships do squat in damage compared to a little escort
Don't forget this is a game so don't apply any canon here.
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The Excel was ruled in what way becuase it was bigger and since when does it beome flag ship.There are no flag ships in Stafleet and it is the admirals flagship not starfleets or the Captian.
It is why most USNavey carriers are flagships to the admiral on board as they have thier flag on the mast.
Bigger desn't mean better take look at the way thing s are in this game as the bigger ships do squat in damage compared to a little escort
Don't forget this is a game so don't apply any canon here.
But as an Ip game it should be close to cannon while maintianing game balance. Tiberium Twilight moved from cannon and got creamed.
If CBS don't want the Constitution Refit to be used as a Tier 5 ship, why can't Cryptic use the Excalibur, Vesper and Exetor class since they're are Cryptic designed 25th century types, they could still make the Fleet Cruiser Refit with those type for now. far as i see they can add the Constitution class on the Fleet Cruiser Refit at a later time when CBS decides if Cryptic could use it for T5 or not.
oh im sure if cryptic released the other skins only on the T5 fleet cruiser retrofits, everyone would be screaming at the fact that theres no Connie skin for the T5 cruiser.
the reason why the other ships cant be used is because they look a lot like connies profile wise, and share ship skins with it.
I know one of the shots is the exeter sue me:P, Still these are good looking designs, and hell block the constitution refit skin for it if its preventing us from getting these beauties as t5 ships.
The Const. is the back bone of Starfleet going back to 2240.
And she did great during her time but remember during Search for Spock they declared the Enterprise as too old. and again look at what the Excel looks like and what she was meant to do in her role both before and after the Transwarp experiment.
I know one of the shots is the exeter sue me:P, Still these are good looking designs, and hell block the constitution refit skin for it if its preventing us from getting these beauties as t5 ships.
And only CBS stopping you from having it. Please convince them to give it to you.
I was once DKnight1000, apparently I had taken my own name so now I'm DKnight0001. If I ask you a question it is not an insult but a genuine attempt to understand why. When I insult you I won't be discreet about it, I will be precise and to the point stupid.
In all honesty, in spite of it not being an idea I'd personally like to see come to fruition, there's no real reason for it not to anymore. The D7 can be flown at full fleet ship grade. I know it's the K't'inga... but we have the D7 skin. Literally an older ship, and the TOS Enterprises opposite number in the KDF for the series. Granted we did see one give Voyager a bit of a kicking, and K't'ingas were still a front line ship during DS9, but still... I can dress it like a D7.
Although with this in mind, be careful what you wish for. Inspite of the KDF having no Excelsior like cruiser, the devs decided to clone the existing Vor'cha, when the T3 K't'inga is the most DPS oriented cruiser going. I know some will love a T5 Connie in whatever form they get it, but like I say, be careful what you wish for.
The tranwarp drive didn't work and it was said it was to complex even Scotty said that himself.It was never to old not if Starfleet built a bunsch of new ones with better cores.shields and weapons etc.
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The tranwarp drive didn't work and it was said it was to complex even Scotty said that himself.It was never to old not if Starfleet built a bunsch of new ones with better cores.shields and weapons etc.
if Transwarp worked what would the Excel done? It would replace the Connie. After the failure of Transwarp and they put in a new more traditional warp core. what could it do? Replace the connie. it made no difference. that is what the Excel was designed for. The fact she is still around after Ambassador, Galaxy, and Sovereign is a credit to her design a refit ablility. Againt what was the 2 things the connie was design to do. Explore space and if needed defend the federation she was capable of doing both easily. Now what was the Excel design to do. Explore space and defend the federation. They had the EXACT SAME ROLE. Why because the Excel replaces the connie. now it would take time to build a fleet of Excels so the Connies did the job till the 24th century. By then Starfleet had a caouple decades to build a sizable number of Excels then the mothballed the connies to the reserve fleet in case starfleet needed them again. the the ONLY forseeable time at this point is if Starfleet has taken crippleing losses and needs place holder ships till they can build more of the modern ships. They connie can do that job but considering the production run of the Miranda and the Excel (It looked like in a Voyager flashback when Voyager was nearly completion that an Excel was being built nearby. By the star of the Dominion War they literally had hundreds, maybe in even a couple thousand of these 2 classes. I would not be surpired if half of Starfleet at the time was made up of those 2 classes. and even with the hammering their numbers took during DW Starfleet still would not need to bring out the connie.
No.It wouldn't as the Excel would be where they would be leaving the connies to look after Fed space.
Don't get me wrong I like the Excel as it is classic ship but not as much as i like my connie go look at my sig on my boards.The Excel maybe bigger but doesn't it is more powerfull.
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And she did great during her time but remember during Search for Spock they declared the Enterprise as too old. and again look at what the Excel looks like and what she was meant to do in her role both before and after the Transwarp experiment.
That was the Enterprise itself they were referring to, not the Constitution class in general.
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How do we know all of them were as there is no proof of this?It is the Miranda class a medium criuser which costs less to operate not the Excelsior which is expensive to operate yes economics do apply to the 23 and 24 centuries despite what Picard said.
I would imagine that is still a good use of this past ST6 UD
I don't beleive this for 1 minute.
On Earth, war, disease, poverty and famine have been completely abolished. Humans no longer strive to acquire wealth and instead work to better themselves and as such there is no base form of currency.
I would say there is still a stock exchange as well as free enterprise and yes rich people.
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BY Sto era both Excel and miranda are nearing the end of their service life. Oberth was already gone, replaced by Nova class. Miranada and Excel did well and their modular hulls allowed a long use but both classes got Hammered during DW eventually Starfleet will phase them out as thier tech improves. Romulans and KDf are not as inventive as Starfleet.
Writer intentions can only be used to verify things that actually happened. All sorts of crazy things could be theorized based on writer quirks but if they go against what was actually shown in the show you have to pick the show. The connie was there at wolf 359, star fleet still used almost every other ship from that era. The modern connie refit is a completely sensible conclusion when examining the facts of canon.
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again why? The ship was replaced by Excel. Excel does EVERYTHING the connie does. I can see the ship relaunched in emergency situation when their fleet was been hit hard. Nothing further.
Everything the Miranda class did was done better by later ships, everything the Saratoga class did was done better by later ships, everything the Oberth class did was done better by later ships. It's an exclusive argument when actually applied to star trek so it makes no sense.
When the Ambassador class was mass produced they didn't discontinue the Excelsior class.
Why have any other type of ship when the Excelsior, Ambassador, Galaxy, and Sovereign class came out? They maintained older ships because it was economical and locally advantageous for production.
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Excel Miranda and oberth are unique that they were so modular and cheap to maintain. also note by DW they had dealt with First contact and the skirmish war with the Klingons. and the first days of the DW were not good for the Fed. so we saw so many of those classes because they had litterally built hundreds of them. they at most built 100 connies. so were more availible and most already refited with modern tech. Refitting the connie with modern tech would take more time. again they could be launched but the fed will have to be in the most dire straights. Also note ALOT of those ships were destroyed during the war so their would be signifigantly less of them afterward.
What are klingons going to do wth thier K'tingas and B'rel BoP as they go back to that era as well as both ogf the ship were launched in late 2260s and the Miranda and Excel were in late 2280s.
The reason why they won't retire the Excel and the Mranda is simple econimics thos maasive ships like the Svvies and Glaxies cost a lot to produce.It is why the Akira and Sabre come into prodution.
The only Cooniie that was really retired was the Enteprise A why because Starfleet wanted that one so it can display it at the Citiadal.They didn't want to take a chance at it getting destroyed like the first one.
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then how come we didn't see any during DW? The answer. they were RETIRED. IF Starfleet had sever losses they could reactivate the connies to be fillers while the shipyards work to replace the losses with more modern ships. Face the Connie is OBSOLETE. HAd a good run and a fair good production run but her day is done.
But back to the point, there's no reason there shouldn't be a tier 5 Exeter class, she's a new design that simply looks similar to the old one, like the Lakota to the Excelsior, looks aren't everything when the Lakota showed that an old ship can be refitted to almost match a Defiant (though its still being heavily debated), this should prove that starfleet would do something like that, heck they already did it to her once in 2271 and she was only 26 years old at that point, no reason they can't do it again by simply using the basic layout slapping in some new tech and producing them in decent numbers.
All evidence points at the class serving, possibly in limited numbers, at least into the 2360's.
On the other hand, there is no evidence that the class was retired in favor of the Excelsior or Constellation.
But you are hellbent on holding on to your misconceptions. So, who am I to deprive you of them? :rolleyes:
I get the notion that you have a beef with the class. If so, you need to lighten up, Cap'n. It's only fiction and a game.
In all repects the Excel is the beefier connie, she was supposed to fill her role with the transwarp and even though the transwarp failed the design is still in essence a connie on steroids. Her stronger than adverage hull allowed her to be around. the Lakota is starfleets attempt to do the the excel what TMP did for the connie. It would extend her service life. service life. For Exeter why make her, except for nostalgia reasons.
Where's everything I read says by turn of the century they were retired except for Republic. By 2400 enough Excels would have been produced so they could retire the class. I love the connie but i realize her day is over but should the dire need arise she could serve again. THe last built of them are in the mothball fleet. Stored should the fleet be so hit they need them till the can make more new ships.
Not eveything sbout Star Trek is on the screen some of it is written down and if you know when the ships were launched.Where to look Star Trek came out way before the pc and pc gaming that is where you need to look and ADB as a lot of corect informaion Aradillo Design Burearu that made StarFleet Battles yes this game has a lot of correct info.
Besides the 23rd Century Criusers are far superior to those of the 24th or 25th except the Rigle and Ambassador class.
To all of you there fans of these ships that want to be able to use them.
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Until about 2340 Excel ruled as the flagship and backbone of the fleet. Now I can see Akula, Centaur, Curry, Constellation, Soyuz, Miranda's, and Oberth during these few decades till the next tech upgrade which was the Ambaasador then another 20 or so years we have the Gal tech.
The Excel was ruled in what way becuase it was bigger and since when does it beome flag ship.There are no flag ships in Stafleet and it is the admirals flagship not starfleets or the Captian.
It is why most USNavey carriers are flagships to the admiral on board as they have thier flag on the mast.
Bigger desn't mean better take look at the way thing s are in this game as the bigger ships do squat in damage compared to a little escort
Don't forget this is a game so don't apply any canon here.
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But as an Ip game it should be close to cannon while maintianing game balance. Tiberium Twilight moved from cannon and got creamed.
oh im sure if cryptic released the other skins only on the T5 fleet cruiser retrofits, everyone would be screaming at the fact that theres no Connie skin for the T5 cruiser.
the reason why the other ships cant be used is because they look a lot like connies profile wise, and share ship skins with it.
The Const. is the back bone of Starfleet going back to 2240.
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I know one of the shots is the exeter sue me:P, Still these are good looking designs, and hell block the constitution refit skin for it if its preventing us from getting these beauties as t5 ships.
And she did great during her time but remember during Search for Spock they declared the Enterprise as too old. and again look at what the Excel looks like and what she was meant to do in her role both before and after the Transwarp experiment.
And only CBS stopping you from having it. Please convince them to give it to you.
If I ask you a question it is not an insult but a genuine attempt to understand why.
When I insult you I won't be discreet about it, I will be precise and to the point stupid.
Although with this in mind, be careful what you wish for. Inspite of the KDF having no Excelsior like cruiser, the devs decided to clone the existing Vor'cha, when the T3 K't'inga is the most DPS oriented cruiser going. I know some will love a T5 Connie in whatever form they get it, but like I say, be careful what you wish for.
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The tranwarp drive didn't work and it was said it was to complex even Scotty said that himself.It was never to old not if Starfleet built a bunsch of new ones with better cores.shields and weapons etc.
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if Transwarp worked what would the Excel done? It would replace the Connie. After the failure of Transwarp and they put in a new more traditional warp core. what could it do? Replace the connie. it made no difference. that is what the Excel was designed for. The fact she is still around after Ambassador, Galaxy, and Sovereign is a credit to her design a refit ablility. Againt what was the 2 things the connie was design to do. Explore space and if needed defend the federation she was capable of doing both easily. Now what was the Excel design to do. Explore space and defend the federation. They had the EXACT SAME ROLE. Why because the Excel replaces the connie. now it would take time to build a fleet of Excels so the Connies did the job till the 24th century. By then Starfleet had a caouple decades to build a sizable number of Excels then the mothballed the connies to the reserve fleet in case starfleet needed them again. the the ONLY forseeable time at this point is if Starfleet has taken crippleing losses and needs place holder ships till they can build more of the modern ships. They connie can do that job but considering the production run of the Miranda and the Excel (It looked like in a Voyager flashback when Voyager was nearly completion that an Excel was being built nearby. By the star of the Dominion War they literally had hundreds, maybe in even a couple thousand of these 2 classes. I would not be surpired if half of Starfleet at the time was made up of those 2 classes. and even with the hammering their numbers took during DW Starfleet still would not need to bring out the connie.
Don't get me wrong I like the Excel as it is classic ship but not as much as i like my connie go look at my sig on my boards.The Excel maybe bigger but doesn't it is more powerfull.
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That was the Enterprise itself they were referring to, not the Constitution class in general.