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The KDF needs SERIOUS, SERIOUS attention IMMEDIATELY
kiloace
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Alright, I'll start off by saying I'm a Fed main. Always have been, probably always will be.
Until recently, playing KDF seemed like a waste of time. When cryptic set you to start at level 30, that's practically screaming "unfinished" so why bother?
Then Legacy of Romulus happened. I was so impressed with how much content they added to every faction. So much so that I created a KDF character. I went into it hoping that I would experience the same quality work as in the Federation faction.
I could not be more disappointed.
The KDF side is so buggy that it beats out STO's first year or so. What was cryptic thinking? I honestly think they should suspend the KDF side until its actually playable, like they did with the foundry for awhile, because I would rather be held back from that faction than given the option and keep thinking its gotten better since last time.
The missions sometimes won't finish, some aren't even 'completed,' I spend 50K ECs on an Orion Boff a few days ago. Today I logged in - she wasn't there. The Physique modifiers for the Gorn aren't in the tailor. My ship showed up instead. WTF?!
I'm sad to say this is the kinda stuff that pushed me away from STO many times before. PLEASE CRYPTIC. YOUR GAME IS GOOD EXCEPT WHEN ITS BAD. FIX IT.
/rantend
anything you guys are disappointed about that you want to add? I'm sure you've had much more experience if you're a KDF main.
Until recently, playing KDF seemed like a waste of time. When cryptic set you to start at level 30, that's practically screaming "unfinished" so why bother?
Then Legacy of Romulus happened. I was so impressed with how much content they added to every faction. So much so that I created a KDF character. I went into it hoping that I would experience the same quality work as in the Federation faction.
I could not be more disappointed.
The KDF side is so buggy that it beats out STO's first year or so. What was cryptic thinking? I honestly think they should suspend the KDF side until its actually playable, like they did with the foundry for awhile, because I would rather be held back from that faction than given the option and keep thinking its gotten better since last time.
The missions sometimes won't finish, some aren't even 'completed,' I spend 50K ECs on an Orion Boff a few days ago. Today I logged in - she wasn't there. The Physique modifiers for the Gorn aren't in the tailor. My ship showed up instead. WTF?!
I'm sad to say this is the kinda stuff that pushed me away from STO many times before. PLEASE CRYPTIC. YOUR GAME IS GOOD EXCEPT WHEN ITS BAD. FIX IT.
/rantend
anything you guys are disappointed about that you want to add? I'm sure you've had much more experience if you're a KDF main.
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However -- that's not to say that the KDF is bad or needs to be suspended. I have a blast playing my two Ferasan alts, they are fun and exciting. The uniqueness of the KDF ships compared to the Federation is a good, refreshing sight. I spent money on my KDF character and if that was taken away from me, I'd want a full refund.
You shouldn't have to deal with this though! Why can't the KDF faction be on par with the Fed faction? I certainly wouldn't mind an update specifically devoted to cleaning up and pimping out the Klingon side. Right now, it seems like even the Romulans are getting more attention that the KDF.
I don't want to log into the KDF, look at all the stuff that bothers me because it isn't a problem with the other factions, and then imagine how KDF mains must feel all the time. It doesn't seem fair to that whole (third?) of the community!
And this, my friends, is the difference in experience between a new KDF player and someone who's been there for awhile. You are most definitely correct that the faction needs more work. Absolutely. And indeed, the 3 factions should be on a roughly even footing. It's just that, after a while, you get used to it and take whatever improvement you can get and be happy about it :P
welcome to kdf.
its always been worse than feds i guess that why so many refuse to play kdf, alos heart breaking when u see fed ship after fed ship added and told its not bang for buck to make kdf ships.
ps. i rarly play feds i have 9kdf and 5 kdf/rom, 3 feds that i never play
Welcome to the last 3 years of the game for the KDF community. KDF community didn't even get a fair start, due to the nature of how the game was designed and released in a short period of time (not Cryptic's fault per se).
It's gotten better with LoR, but there are still lots of things the KDF faction could use. Whether we'll get them anytime soon is up to Cryptic.
We would all love to get some dev time but basically we are back to being ignored for another significant length of time which Dstahl alluded to himself in a recent interview.
Is that the same interview where he stated new KDF C-Store ships would be added this year? (Yep, relly ignoring the KDF it seems by that interview. Just saying.)
PWE ARC Drone says: "Your STO forum community as you have known it is ended...Display names are irrelevant...Any further sense of community is irrelevant...Resistance is futile...You will be assimilated..."
A single ship for a whole year and little else until season 10 (we are on 7) is not going to tide over the entire KDF faction.
Welcome to the KDF, OP. Nice to meet you and glad you're here. About all we have left is our honor and our blades. Which we use regularly to halt the unending flood of Starfleet. Our honor is still intact and our blades, while worn, are still sharp. We will use both to the best of our abilities as long as we can.
I am going to make a bold prediction. Some day, far off from now when the lustre and excitement of STO has grown thin with the Federation herd, who will promptly drop it for the newest neat-o MMO, the KDF will still be here. And when this occurs, we will be lauded for keeping STO alive after all the Johnny Come Latelys have run off to play World of Warcrack IV. On that day, PWE/Cryptic will be grateful to the KDF players.
But we still won't have any new Z-Store ships. rofl.
But yes, the KDF has some really old bugs and glitches that were never fixed like missions not completing properly unless you do things in a certain sequence, a whole map missing a huge chunk of floor(it is there, just invisible) or having the rewards of the entire Undine arc not scale to level as they should.
In the end, once you reach endgame, none of this things matter anymore, but they sure detract from the experience.
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LoR was technically Season 8 (renamed internally) - and the next Season update will be number nine (stated in other interviews.) So, you're saying after all they added for LoR (Season 8) - basically finally giving the KDF a level 1 -50 path, and it's own tutorial and a starting storyline that is now quite "Klingon" - the fact they now want to move the general story of STO forward (for all factions in the end game) with Season 9 - and will give the KDF some new ships in Season 10 - is suddenly 'neglecting the KDF again'?
Wow.
PWE ARC Drone says: "Your STO forum community as you have known it is ended...Display names are irrelevant...Any further sense of community is irrelevant...Resistance is futile...You will be assimilated..."
Don't forget the two new ships, plus a third one in the pipe, plus persistent rumors about new fleet ships. Clearly no love at all.
And seriously, Jesus, how hard can it be to make a faction good? They created a whole new one in a few months and its stable, there's no excuse.
Its great to have that 1-50 leveling now available, but thats been promised for years. One of those two new ships in LOR has been in the game for over a year. Also, only one is useful because its a B'Rel skin at endgame. Lets face it, in this game, only endgame matters because its can be leveled in a few days.
As for fleet ships. Scourge and Corsair are still bugged a year after the fleet bases. And the two extra ships that were put into the fleet store are a joke. Varanus is kinda okay but it still lags behind. The Fleet B'rel at T5 worthless for 98% of the KDF because its T5.
Really just fixing a few of the more prominent bugs and making a few fleet ships would probably go along ways to pacifying the endgame players.
Yeah, two lowbie ships. Big whoop. Nobody cares.
Fleet Hegh'ta
Dreadnought class. Two times the size, three times the speed. Advanced weaponry. Modified for a minimal crew. Unlike most Federation vessels, it's built solely for combat.
Nobody said LoR was 'neglecting KDF'. We're appropriately grateful for Cryptic finally doing something with the KDF faction via LoR. That doesn't mean we're gonna start sucking their schlongs at every turn and worshipping the ground they stand on. The KDF as a faction has been f**ked over a few too many times to start believing what Cryptic has to say about future content.
I think that neat-o MMO is called Destiny and I believe it will claim this Warrior
RIP KDF and PvP 2014-07-17 Season 9.5 - Death by Dev
Makes me wonder what the devs had to do just to get a few new KDF missions in to complete the KDF side content wise for the 1-50 leveling heh.
Now I'm in my Fleet Corsair and I can't get enough of it. The utility of the ship is fantastic and makes it far more enjoyable than the Federation cruisers. It's not escort-like DPS but it's more than enough to make it viable in ESTFs with the added utility that no escort can bring to the table. I can captain a vessel that makes the game fun and enjoyable without having to use the Z-store for shiny objects. I don't even use (nor have access to) Plasmonic Leech and the Fleet Corsair is still absolutely awesome.
I don't care much for the story telling because I just want to get to blowing things up with my ship. Sure, some of the stories were pretty cool (mainly the Featured Episodes) but the rest was just filler for the same types of missions, "go to planet X, kill Y, explore Z". Fed missions aren't any different so it's not like the Federation is any better or worse in that department. The story missions are there just to gain xp for leveling. You could level to 50 on DOff missions alone if you really wanted to and that goes for any faction.
I was never a big fan of the tea saucer with chopsticks ships the Federation has so the KDF BoPs and battlecruisers were my hook into the game. The Romulan Warbirds are kinda cool with a lot of utility and I enjoy piloting them as much as the KDF ships. The Federation really doesn't have the versatile ships the KDF and Romulans have. I can look past a majority of the bugs and issues in the KDF because I have far more fun there than I do in the Federation.
I didn't mean it that way at all. I just meant that it seems criminal for letting players into a seemingly unfinished portion of the game without refining it.
Of course that's been going on for years.
I just want everyone and every faction to get the attention they deserve. That's it.
Because KDF faction development started on year 3.5 from the opening of STO, so all the comments stating that KDF is like the first year of release for the game, is true.
KDF have too long been neglected.
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I don't think they should turn kdf off, but certainly they should fix some things. I recently became a lifetime member and my KDF toon cannot locate the firework device as promised to toons in the lifer awards speal. Well I complained with a trouble ticket. About 3 weeks later they responded with a page long canned message that basically said they are sorry for any inconvenience, but they aren't going to fix it and my kdf toon will never have a fireworks device. Gee thanks for taking my money...
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As it should've been. The Federation has been the favored faction from the start, getting the bulk of the ship-creation resources and overall attention. A good portion of the universal content was written from a Federation perspective with a flimsy KDF wrapper thrown on.
It's time the Federation spent some time resting on their laurels and being happy with what they've got, and it's time for the KDF to finally be completed and brought to parity, along with continued expansion of the new Romulan faction.