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We all know we want a T5 connie, but we also know the amount of whine that would ensue would make the french queezy.(pun)
I think the best bet is to try and get a T5 (RA) version of just the exeter (or all the t2 cruisers sans connie skin).
I would call them Patrol cruisers (T5 would be advanced or heavy patrol cruiser.)
And would stat it thusly...
Heavy patrol cruiser (T5)
Hull - 37500
Shield mod - 1.0
Weapons 4/4
Crew 400
Boff's -
Cmdr eng
LTC tac
LT eng
Lt sci
Ens sci
Device slots - 4
Consoles 4eng 2sci 3tac
Turn rate - 9
Impulse mod - 0.15
Inertia - 40
+5 all sub systems
I would prefer it be free but if it had to be c-store
[console-tactical]
High Energy Discharge phaser relay
+30% phaser damage
+0.5% crit chance
Enables Phaser overcharge - effects energy weapons
+10% damage for 15 seconds
+10% fire rate for 15 seconds
10% chance to reduce energy drain by 85% for 20 seconds
3 minure cd
Set bonus with emission seeking torpedo
+5 power to weapons subsystem
+25 weapons energy drain resistance.
The fleet version would get the standard 10% markup and a 3rd science console, maybe a universal ens.
I think the best bet is to try and get a T5 (RA) version of just the exeter (or all the t2 cruisers sans connie skin).
I would call them Patrol cruisers (T5 would be advanced or heavy patrol cruiser.)
And would stat it thusly...
Heavy patrol cruiser (T5)
Hull - 37500
Shield mod - 1.0
Weapons 4/4
Crew 400
Boff's -
Cmdr eng
LTC tac
LT eng
Lt sci
Ens sci
Device slots - 4
Consoles 4eng 2sci 3tac
Turn rate - 9
Impulse mod - 0.15
Inertia - 40
+5 all sub systems
I would prefer it be free but if it had to be c-store
[console-tactical]
High Energy Discharge phaser relay
+30% phaser damage
+0.5% crit chance
Enables Phaser overcharge - effects energy weapons
+10% damage for 15 seconds
+10% fire rate for 15 seconds
10% chance to reduce energy drain by 85% for 20 seconds
3 minure cd
Set bonus with emission seeking torpedo
+5 power to weapons subsystem
+25 weapons energy drain resistance.
The fleet version would get the standard 10% markup and a 3rd science console, maybe a universal ens.
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Honestly I think Cryptic has the green light for the Connie/Exeter at T5 and Fleet version but it's their trump card if the game ever fails completely. Just imagine that people are leaving STO left and right, all Cryptic has to do is say "OMG!!! CONNIE LOCKBOX!!!" and their sales are suddenly through the roof and they make millions as everyone and their mother buys 50000 master keys and lock boxes trying to get one, lol.
eh Like I said I know it isnt likely. This is just what I think it should be.
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I don't think they do, I think CBS told them no because of an agreement with Paramount due to the JJtrek. Only JJ gets to have the enterprise, STO players get to have low level versions of it.
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The way licensing works, really, if that were the issue, then there wouldn't even be low level versions of the Constitution in the game.
Yep. Also, as more and more old, nonsensical TRIBBLE exists at T5, the reticence to put a T5 exeter out there makes less and less sense.
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On a related note, the Tal Shiar Lobi and Lockbox ships look alot like the Narada, is it a sign of things to come
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CBS also said STO canon is like a general consensus. So these threads are perfectly fine.
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dude again this ship is like the NX a Zen ship only. Connie was surpassed by the Excel for the Excel at the root is a Connie on steroids. thus if Sto wanted to be more accurate the first excel should be in the T2 spot and all connie variants as zen ships. buy 2409 the connie is LONG obsolete heck the Excel should be near the end of her service life. And again CBS SAID NNNNNNOOOOOO.
There is a lot wrong with this as the connie is just good as the Excel and the the Connie should axactly be a T3 ship and the Constellation a T2.
I would do way with tier and bring in classes when you put Mark X it becomes that.
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What part of "CBS said STO canon is up to the fans" don't you understand? You are acting like the no was final but it wasn't. You don't understand the relationship between crytpic and CBS so maybe it's time to stop posting.
As for the Connie refits age? There are much older ships at tier 5, it's a baseless argument.
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Note Connie was retired at the end of the 23rd century, phased out by the Excelsior. Excel is a beefer version of the connie and could do everything a connie can do but better. There is no logical reason for a non zen version by the 25th century.
What part of how many times has it been noted the CBS has said no. until the change their mind the issue should be dropped. And name the older T5 ships please. i don't see one. The only ship older than connie is NX and she's a t2 zen
I'l take the D'kyr, Somraw, and T'liss as older than the Connie refit at tier 5 for 500 Bob.
CBS said STO canon is up for debate, they also said no, but saying things can be debated means we can discuss them. If discussing something when we have been given permission to discuss it bothers you much you can always leave the thread and stop bumping it into other peoples attention.
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Note it's T'Varo not T'Liss and from early on it appears for STo devs the ship was never retired from service. THe follow the KDF idea. "If it ain't broke don't fix it." D'Kyr same Logial Reasoning and note planetery militia there. However Starfleet experiments with ship designs far more than any other power. it's amazing that Miranda Oberth, and Excel have lasted so long but again Excel IS the Connie just updated and beefed up. That's why you don't see her after the 23rd century. Now personelly I have no problem with a Zen Connie. However CBS has been stated that they have said no which is alot different the the galaxy thread if someone points that out. The Galaxy issue is one started by STo Devs thus we can go at them. CBS is much harder. CBS may change their mind at some point I'm just tired of seeing new T5 Connie threads popping up every month or so. Get on CBS's case not sto.
In STO the connie refit was never retired. It was never officially retired in canon star trek either.
There is no CBS internet venue where this can be appropriately discussed.
There are several people on here who regularly tweet and email CBS representatives.
If you are fine with a T5 connie, why are getting on our case?
If you are tired of these threads, why do you bump them?
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Well sTo should be lose to cannon as possible while maintain game balance. and Considering the USS Victory and Stargazer was originally be Connies but were change shows that the class is retired from service. Foor again the Excel does everything a Connie does but better as a sucessor should. But the begining of the 24th entury there would be enough Excels to decomission the remaining Connies. THe only exception would be the Republic but she never leaves Sol system.
Considering that an unnamed Constitution class starship was involved in the Battle of Wolf 359, I would say that a few were still in service as of early 2367.
Just because the Enterprise (NCC-1701-A) was decommissioned in the early 2290's, doesn't mean the entire class was put into mothballs or scrapped.
The Constitution was a very flexible design that was constantly upgraded throughout it's service in the 23rd Century. Even without the appearance of a wreck in The Best of Both Worlds (which was the model used for the self-destruct scenes in Star Trek III), it's not a stretch to imagine Starfleet getting another good century of service out of the class.
Also note while the Conni could have lasted that long but again the Excel IS the connie on steroids by the turn of the century there was enough of them to retire the connie. And that werck could also be a Federation Class. Refited the Federation and Connie are the same minus the 3rd nacelle and they did last longer in service. They were cost cutting when they put that model in. don't blame them. But not that is the only time we saw a connie fram in tng. we didn't see her in Dominion war at all. All signs point to her being decomissioned. Maybe the StO version of Starfleet things they're in such dire straits that they took the mothballed connies out to supplement the fleet. but that's a desperation move.
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50 year old ships that share a similar technology to what we have now.
150 year old space ship with completely outdated equipment that's no match for a Borg Cube, Tholian ship or Klingon Vor'cha.
See the difference?
But failing logic, CBS says no.
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When I insult you I won't be discreet about it, I will be precise and to the point stupid.
Kahn does have a point but yes their effectiveness would not be as good as a modern vessel. their main purpose is to buy time for the shipyards to make more modern ships. But agreed CBS had said no that is the current status.
HMMM...time.
I'm pretty sure most of us have seen "In a Mirror Darkly" (Defiant vs rebel fleet) and the 2009 Star Trek movie (Narada vs Starfleet over Vulcan).
So much time can you buy with such vessels?
And how many people will you lose while doing it?
Remember, those people will not be around later to man your newly constructed ships.
There's bravery, there is sacrifice and there is useless gesture...
So your saying your not going to use the Zapp Branigan approach? You see a Borg Cube can only process so many new drones at a time so I simply send wave after wave of my own men in crappy ships until the cube is full and need to leave.
Also didn't Starfleet lose a ton of old ships in the battle of wolf 359?
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An obese cube...sounds like fun.
Maybe throw in some unwashed Starfleet officers...maybe the ship gets indigestion.
But the Borg also have holding areas for unprocessed people.;)
Depends on what "old" means.
We know there was at least one upgraded Ambassador, a Nebula, a Cheyenne, a New Orleans, a Niagara, a Challenger, a Freedom, a Springfield, an Excelsior and a Miranda.
On average those are not too old ships.
To be fair, with the Borg the problem there was not so much the age of the ships but the knowledge the Borg had gained while fighting the most advanced ship in the fleet and of course Picard's inside knowledge.
It also looks like a wave tactic doesn't work against the Borg since it gives them time to adapt to the weapons of the first wave while the second moves in.
*EDIT: I think Wolf 359 is more a case of "the best can't seriously dent it, anything less than the best can't even hope to do the same"*
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Logic would dictate that if you had a reserve fleet that you called up in case of serious trouble that they would keep them updated to the most recent tech. What purpose would it serve to call up that NX ship if it could only go warp 5 and has outdated phase cannons???
anyway to protest not having a T5 connie I have decided to roll a character, dress him and his crew in TOS costumes and see how far I can get in the game with just the TOS ENT and the refit ENT.
At level 1-10 I had my team in TOS costumes and pretended that this was their 5 year mission. At level 10 I got the refit connie and put my crew in the The Motion Picture costumes...at level 15 I will switch to WOK and play the rest of the game with that ship
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The Exeter class is a NEW ship built in the 2400's. It only looks like a connie.
So any argument against the constitution class is baseless in the argument for the Exeter.
I would also point out that the other t2 cruisers are supposed to be modern vessels and its not like it would be hard for them to disable the constitution skin for a t5 version.
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