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rustiswordzrustiswordz Member Posts: 824 Arc User
OK I'm slowly building up the points to get the Nukara Tier 2 reputation console.

The one that has the 10% boost to beam attack accuracy, has anyone have any views on this console yet? I want to use it on my sci/ beam boats.

Seems like a good console to have alongside the plasmonic leech.

Thoughts?
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    disposeableh3r0disposeableh3r0 Member Posts: 1,927 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    OK I'm slowly building up the points to get the Nukara Tier 2 reputation console.

    The one that has the 10% boost to beam attack accuracy, has anyone have any views on this console yet? I want to use it on my sci/ beam boats.

    Seems like a good console to have alongside the plasmonic leech.

    Thoughts?

    1.) Aquire resources - You can actually aquire it for free on tribble but you will still need the resouces if you like it.

    2.) Transfer to tribble

    3.) Buy console

    4.) Test console use combat log and parsers.

    5.) Profit.
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    emacsheadroomemacsheadroom Member Posts: 994 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    I don't use it, due to using only a couple of beam banks and cannons/turrets on my D'dex. It'd be great for an all beam boat. You could use it along with the accurate trait and use weapons with no accuracy mod whatsoever and concentrate on crit boosting.
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    curs0rcurs0r Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    It sounds nice but i'd rather have the console space go to something with a little more effect. Just my take on it, but i'd rather go for the acc bonus on weapons. Then again, my console layout is fairly time tested and was crazy expensive in EC terms, I've had no reason to change the layout in some time now, so I'm admittedly biased toward not 'messing with success'.
    I'll sell you some weapons from New Romulus. Never fired, only dropped once.
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    newromulan1newromulan1 Member Posts: 2,229
    edited June 2013
    OK I'm slowly building up the points to get the Nukara Tier 2 reputation console.

    The one that has the 10% boost to beam attack accuracy, has anyone have any views on this console yet? I want to use it on my sci/ beam boats.

    Seems like a good console to have alongside the plasmonic leech.

    Thoughts?

    For what use? PvE? I don't think NPC,s have that high a defense that your shots would be missing lots.
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    rustiswordzrustiswordz Member Posts: 824 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Yes PvE, I dont do PvP much, dont have the tactics for it. ;)
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    newromulan1newromulan1 Member Posts: 2,229
    edited June 2013
    Yes PvE, I dont do PvP much, dont have the tactics for it. ;)

    Would not waste the space - especially if you have skill points in accuracy. Under normal circumstances - ie when the Borg spheres's are not on Emer power to engines Crack - most shots will land in PvE - console will not make a big impact.
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    rustiswordzrustiswordz Member Posts: 824 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Thats my plan, I'm saving dill for Zen to get a DD Retro i want to turn into an all beam boat. (well Beams and Photons) So i'm starting from scratch with the build. The Nukara console seems like a good choice plus I have a Fed sci nebula that could benefit from the exotic damage too.

    :)
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    newromulan1newromulan1 Member Posts: 2,229
    edited June 2013
    Thats my plan, I'm saving dill for Zen to get a DD Retro i want to turn into an all beam boat. (well Beams and Photons) So i'm starting from scratch with the build. The Nukara console seems like a good choice plus I have a Fed sci nebula that could benefit from the exotic damage too.

    :)

    Personally i see this console as a PvP console to boost acc against fast/small moving targets - it would help a lot combined with fire-at-will - put not really in any PvE content.

    If you are not missing lots of shots without it - means you don't need it.
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    disposeableh3r0disposeableh3r0 Member Posts: 1,927 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Since most of the replys are conjecture I stand by my assertation that you test it.

    Personaly I don't see how it alone would be a great improvement but then again I haven't bothered to test it.
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    rustiswordzrustiswordz Member Posts: 824 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Thanks for all your help guys! Given me a lot to chew over. :)
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    millimidgetmillimidget Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Might be worth using if you have a bunch of the old fleet beams. I've got old fleet cannons, so I'm out of luck, and at this point you're better off just getting the 2xAcc,2xDmg ones anyway.

    Though this reminds me that I haven't even bothered checking any of the Nukara rep gear yet, and I'm only a few days from hitting T3.
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    bioskyline1bioskyline1 Member Posts: 54 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    i like it. cant wait for rest of set
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    bioskyline1bioskyline1 Member Posts: 54 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Might be worth using if you have a bunch of the old fleet beams. I've got old fleet cannons, so I'm out of luck, and at this point you're better off just getting the 2xAcc,2xDmg ones anyway.
    .


    dmg x3 and acc x2 is nice :D
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    millimidgetmillimidget Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    dmg x3 and acc x2 is nice
    2xDmg, 3xAcc is probably nicer, but I wouldn't know.
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    vesterengvestereng Member Posts: 2,252 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    (At 12 marks per mission I pretty much laugh at everything in the nukara reputation and I am not doing it on any character myself.)

    But that aside I always compare new consoles vs what I already have. You are giving something up for it which you have to add to the table.

    And also in my case, since I don't pvp, "empty stats" are useless to me. I'd call that more of the same.
    Whereas something that has an active animation or gives you entirely new ability is much more desirable - to me.

    For example the embassy science console that will give better stats on 3 different areas plus add a burning animation in your weapon color when crit on targets.

    More than anything I'd say ask yourself it's really, really, really worth it, in not just the low nukara payout but losing potential STF time, when you just get midly better stats and you are already beating eSTF...
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    phalanx01phalanx01 Member Posts: 360 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    OK I'm slowly building up the points to get the Nukara Tier 2 reputation console.

    The one that has the 10% boost to beam attack accuracy, has anyone have any views on this console yet? I want to use it on my sci/ beam boats.

    Seems like a good console to have alongside the plasmonic leech.

    Thoughts?

    I personally love the console since I fly the Tholian Recluse carrier with a beamy loadout. It does help a lot with accuracy on your beamers. I don't see it working for cannon based ships however, just doesn't fit unless Cryptic makes it +10% to all weapons in the future?
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    rustiswordzrustiswordz Member Posts: 824 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    vestereng wrote: »
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    For example the embassy science console that will give better stats on 3 different areas plus add a burning animation in your weapon color when crit on targets.


    What is that console can you elaborate more?
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    redsnake721redsnake721 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    I Fly a Fleet Excelsior all Beam Boat (ACC x2 Spiral Wave Disruptors) And I love to farm in Kerrat.
    It is a great source of EC. But since it is also a PVP zone I need to have "some" PVP skills or my time there would be not so enjoyable. (Don't get me started on the OP B'Rel Alpha strike combo.)

    But in a Aux2Batt build I can dish out some pretty wicked BO's. But I have been looking for a few ways to improve my build. I have considered the Plasamonic leech with the Maco Set combo or the Gravator Pulse Gen or the Subspace Jumper, but I currently run my build geared toward Crit's.

    I run Romulan Boffs with Crit bonus and all the Crit boosting consoles, also tier 5 on all the Reputation (except Nukara, half way through tier 5). After reading this thread I am tempted to just buy that console now.
    I read somewhere about ACC overflow and that once your ACC is boosted to %100 the rest gets dumped into Crtd or CRTH.
    So with the ACC Captian trait (+ %10) and the Acc x2 modifier on the beams I should get a + %30 acc bonus to all beams already.
    So the bonuses to Critical Chance and Critical Severity depend on how much greater your Accuracy exceeds your target's Defense (this is the 'Accuracy Overflow') So with an overflow as low as 0.13 that would give me a 1.25% Critical Chance, and a little more than 5% Critical Severity boost. If I can get some holds in there like warp plasma or a tractor beam and this new Console it should start to make some nice one-shot kills on the BO's
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    rustiswordzrustiswordz Member Posts: 824 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Yeah thats the sort of thing I'm thinking of for my Double D Retro build.

    Spiral waves? I thought they were limited to Galors? What are they like? Procs any good?
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    redsnake721redsnake721 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Yeah thats the sort of thing I'm thinking of for my Double D Retro build.

    Spiral waves? I thought they were limited to Galors? What are they like? Procs any good?

    Once you have the Galor you can use them on any ship. Some (myself included) think they are the best beams in the game. I have used all Phaser, all Plasma, Phased Polaron, Phased Tetryon ect. and always go back the the Sprial waves. They have 2.5% Chance to Disable 1 Subsystem for 5 sec to target 2.5 Chance 10% Damage Resistance Debuff for 15 sec. So they have the Phaser and Disruptor procs combined.
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    rustiswordzrustiswordz Member Posts: 824 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Ah ok you need the G to work. Guessed as much :)
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    iskandusiskandus Member Posts: 1,062 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    OK I'm slowly building up the points to get the Nukara Tier 2 reputation console.

    The one that has the 10% boost to beam attack accuracy, has anyone have any views on this console yet? I want to use it on my sci/ beam boats.

    Seems like a good console to have alongside the plasmonic leech.

    Thoughts?

    Here is the stats for the console : http://s1255.photobucket.com/user/MewiST/media/Equipment/nukaraconsole_zpsea6804cc.png.html

    + 5 Shield Power
    + 17.3 Power Insulator
    + 17.3 Particle Generator
    + 10% Accuracy with beams


    Feedback :

    - Increase in shield power is always nice as Nukara T4 reputation passive and the upcoming Fleet Warp Core start to shift damage boost away from weapon power. As a result, someone who can maintain high Aux and/or maintain high power level (>75) in each subcategory will see a significant boost to their damage potential

    - Power insulation is important in both PvE and PvP, more than one realizes and especially for Starfleet because Klignons have a variety of space toys that can energy drain people with ease. This is nice to have and useful though ultimately, an optional boost if you already have good power insulation in place

    - Particle Generator is very useful for Sci focus ships who have skills or powers that use exotic damage. Once again, the trend is clearly moving away from DHC/BO DPS in an effort to boost the damage potential of non-Escorts. For ships which already spec to use exotic damage such as feedback pulse, gravity well, isometric charge, plasma shockwave or sabotage probe, this can be very useful. But for those who don't use this skill, they will likely find this to be uninteresting

    - Beam Accuracy boost is always nice and needed given many ships have high defense value these days


    The Set 2 bonus which increases Tetryon damage and boost Flow Capacitor skill is valued for someone with a drain build such as this ship : http://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/867220393897714791/86D1C124D94D8AEDB95A4F532121462C1D87BA78/
    With this, the pictured ship will drain as much as 120 up to 2 subsystems at a time and maintain the power level in all its subsystems. Combined with the Nukara T4 bonus with emphasis on Aux power that gives +25 Weapon Training Skill and +25 Energy/Projectile Weapon skill and the eventual Fleet Elite Warp Core, which gives 3.3% damage boost per subsystem > 75 (therefore, 3.3% X 4 = 13.2%) - we are talking about fairly substantial damage boost


    The downside is this console and its set power require a very specific build in order to take full advantage. Few people follow this niche strategy as the overwhelming majority of people still laser focus on their DHC, its DPS and nothing else. I think most people will look at this console and just ignore it. Unless you are prepared to become a Sci/drain specialist, this console is likely not for you.
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    iskandusiskandus Member Posts: 1,062 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Once you have the Galor you can use them on any ship. Some (myself included) think they are the best beams in the game. I have used all Phaser, all Plasma, Phased Polaron, Phased Tetryon ect. and always go back the the Sprial waves. They have 2.5% Chance to Disable 1 Subsystem for 5 sec to target 2.5 Chance 10% Damage Resistance Debuff for 15 sec. So they have the Phaser and Disruptor procs combined.

    I still prefer my experimental Romulan Plasma beam array. Its bonus is far more reliable with the special firing mode (Romulan Jull Melt), +6% critical hit chance and set bonuses with the Zero Point Energy Conduit Console and Romulan Hyper Plasma
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    ursusmorologusursusmorologus Member Posts: 5,328 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    I use it on my science ships, in place of the Romulan console, since they have to use beams for subsystem targeting, and they have a sci captain that benefits from the skill boosts. I dont use it on other ships that belong to my sci captains, or carriers that belong to my other characters, only the sci ships that belong to my sci captains. Every other ship uses the Romulan console in that slot.
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    iskandusiskandus Member Posts: 1,062 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    I use it on my science ships, in place of the Romulan console, since they have to use beams for subsystem targeting, and they have a sci captain that benefits from the skill boosts. I dont use it on other ships that belong to my sci captains, or carriers that belong to my other characters, only the sci ships that belong to my sci captains. Every other ship uses the Romulan console in that slot.

    I am not following your logic of the Nukara console or the Romulan Zero Ponit energy coduit console. :confused: They are not mutually exclusive and serve different purposes. Are we talking about this?

    http://sto.gamepedia.com/Console_-_Universal_-_Zero_Point_Energy_Conduit

    There is no beam requirement for this. I am confused. :confused:
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    brigadooombrigadooom Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    I'm finding it quite useful on my Defiant, which I use a decloaking sniper with BO3.
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    ursusmorologusursusmorologus Member Posts: 5,328 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    iskandus wrote: »
    I am not following your logic of the Nukara console or the Romulan Zero Ponit energy coduit console. :confused: They are not mutually exclusive and serve different purposes.
    I use the Romulan console as part of my default build. The Nukera console is interesting, but I dont have room for every console that does something interesting, so I had to swap out something else, and the Romulan console is the one that lost. On my other ships, that dont have sci captains or beam weapons, the Romulan console is still more useful.
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    makburemakbure Member Posts: 422 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    I Fly a Fleet Excelsior all Beam Boat (ACC x2 Spiral Wave Disruptors) And I love to farm in Kerrat.
    It is a great source of EC. But since it is also a PVP zone I need to have "some" PVP skills or my time there would be not so enjoyable. (Don't get me started on the OP B'Rel Alpha strike combo.)

    But in a Aux2Batt build I can dish out some pretty wicked BO's. But I have been looking for a few ways to improve my build. I have considered the Plasamonic leech with the Maco Set combo or the Gravator Pulse Gen or the Subspace Jumper, but I currently run my build geared toward Crit's.

    I run Romulan Boffs with Crit bonus and all the Crit boosting consoles, also tier 5 on all the Reputation (except Nukara, half way through tier 5). After reading this thread I am tempted to just buy that console now.
    I read somewhere about ACC overflow and that once your ACC is boosted to %100 the rest gets dumped into Crtd or CRTH.
    So with the ACC Captian trait (+ %10) and the Acc x2 modifier on the beams I should get a + %30 acc bonus to all beams already.
    So the bonuses to Critical Chance and Critical Severity depend on how much greater your Accuracy exceeds your target's Defense (this is the 'Accuracy Overflow') So with an overflow as low as 0.13 that would give me a 1.25% Critical Chance, and a little more than 5% Critical Severity boost. If I can get some holds in there like warp plasma or a tractor beam and this new Console it should start to make some nice one-shot kills on the BO's

    You should provide a link for the acc going into crtd/h at 100%, I've never heard of that.
    -Makbure
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    bfwarholbfwarhol Member Posts: 3 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Try the Wiki

    Or, alternately, the listing for that same skill in-game. This is not new material, people.
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    makburemakbure Member Posts: 422 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    bfwarhol wrote: »
    Try the Wiki

    Or, alternately, the listing for that same skill in-game. This is not new material, people.

    Yeah fine, but the tooltip in-game for this skill doesn't read exactly like the tooltip in the wiki, the important part - about exceeding the hit cap - isn't there in the in-game tooltip. Kinda going on blind faith here with the wiki entry. But if, if, it's right, it's right, then I don't care.
    -Makbure
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