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Defiant class Pet for the Atrox Carrier?

shailatshailat Member Posts: 478 Arc User
For a while now this has been bothering me,
The Kdf carrier gets a BOP as a combat pet
The Dominion Carrier Gets a Jem'hadar Bug Ship as a combat pet
so when is the Atrox gonna get a Defiant class ship as a combat pet?

and dont go telling me to go and get a dominion ship or go kdf (i have a kdf sci that has a carrier and thats how i know they have bops) us fed carriers need a big ship pet and not a puny shuttle
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  • pyryckpyryck Member Posts: 6 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    You forgot to ask for Advanced Battle Cloak and Singularity Powers! ;)
  • tcostiktcostik Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    pyryck wrote: »
    You forgot to ask for Advanced Battle Cloak and Singularity Powers! ;)

    Why would he ask/want that? The Defiant never had either of those.


    Carrier pets is something the Federation has been lacking for a long time now. I'd love to see some heavier frigate type pets, even if they can only be used on the larger carriers like the Atrox, Recluse, or Dreadnought. My hope is the next three pack will be a federation carrier and we'll get some more pet choices along with it.
  • terence12terence12 Member Posts: 67 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    ?

    stealth fighter is the pet

    its like goes with the carrier cause its with the same species and stuff

    and has like the same coloring and engines
  • voporakvoporak Member Posts: 5,621 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    terence12 wrote: »
    ?

    stealth fighter is the pet

    its like goes with the carrier cause its with the same species and stuff

    and has like the same coloring and engines

    But it's not a frigate like the BoP pets for the Vo'quv.
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  • szerontzurszerontzur Member Posts: 2,724 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    The frigates are generally locked to the ship in question. Vo'quv is the bird of prey, the Kar'fi has its own frigates. (Kar'fi can't use BoPs, and vice versa. Flight Deck cruisers can't use them either.)

    IF the Atrox were to get a frigate, it would/should be of Caitian design.
  • shailatshailat Member Posts: 478 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    pyryck wrote: »
    You forgot to ask for Advanced Battle Cloak and Singularity Powers! ;)

    na thoes arent needed, i just want the defaint class for the Atrox Carrier
    szerontzur wrote: »
    The frigates are generally locked to the ship in question. Vo'quv is the bird of prey, the Kar'fi has its own frigates. (Kar'fi can't use BoPs, and vice versa. Flight Deck cruisers can't use them either.)

    IF the Atrox were to get a frigate, it would/should be of Caitian design.

    ok well if you put it that way, they should make another carrier that will be able to launch the defaint class
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  • shailatshailat Member Posts: 478 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    tcostik wrote: »
    Why would She ask/want that? The Defiant never had either of those.


    Carrier pets is something the Federation has been lacking for a long time now. I'd love to see some heavier frigate type pets, even if they can only be used on the larger carriers like the Atrox, Recluse, or Dreadnought. My hope is the next three pack will be a federation carrier and we'll get some more pet choices along with it.

    fixed that typo for you :P
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  • pyryckpyryck Member Posts: 6 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    shailat wrote: »
    na thoes arent needed, i just want the defaint class for the Atrox Carrier

    Then please use some sort of logic.

    Something like this - "The Caitian carrier needs some CAITIAN FRIGATEs!" ;)

    Ya see, that's using sound logic when you're comparing the Atrox to the Kar'fi and Vo'quv. :)

    Now try it with me one time...

    "The Caitian carrier needs some CAITIAN FRIGATEs!" ;)
  • shailatshailat Member Posts: 478 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    pyryck wrote: »
    Then please use some sort of logic.

    Something like this - "The Caitian carrier needs some CAITIAN FRIGATEs!" ;)

    Ya see, that's using sound logic when you're comparing the Atrox to the Kar'fi and Vo'quv. :)

    Now try it with me one time...

    "The Caitian carrier needs some CAITIAN FRIGATEs!" ;)

    but i dont want it to have a cat frigate, it needs the defiant class
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  • temporalhavoctemporalhavoc Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    It makes no sense at all to give the Atrox Defiant-class pets, as the above poster has made clear. However...

    +1 for Caitian frigates. That sounds like a neat idea that I could totally support.
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  • terence12terence12 Member Posts: 67 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    simple then

    a giant fed carrier that looks like deep space nine

    and it has defiant pets
  • pyryckpyryck Member Posts: 6 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    shailat wrote: »
    but i dont want it to have a cat frigate, it needs the defiant class

    "The Caitian carrier needs some CAITIAN FRIGATEs!" :P
  • daan2006daan2006 Member Posts: 5,346 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    pyryck wrote: »
    "The Caitian carrier needs some CAITIAN FRIGATEs!" :P

    bahahahahhahahaha
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  • shailatshailat Member Posts: 478 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    pyryck wrote: »
    "The Caitian carrier needs some CAITIAN FRIGATEs!" :P

    ok ok, make it have quad cannons and also the players can use it as well (player controlled ship) as the defiant and BOP are both player controlled ships
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  • inkrunnerinkrunner Member Posts: 407 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    It might be more realistic to ask for actual frigates, for example the Miranda class.

    The BoP and Jem Bug are both npc frigates on the same level as the Federation's Miranda class, not the Defiant class.
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  • pyryckpyryck Member Posts: 6 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    shailat wrote: »
    ok ok, make it have quad cannons and also the players can use it as well (player controlled ship) as the defiant and BOP are both player controlled ships

    NOW you're getting into the swing of things! :D

    "The Caitian carrier needs some CAITIAN FRIGATEs!" ;)
  • shpoksshpoks Member Posts: 6,967 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    shailat wrote: »
    ok ok, make it have quad cannons and also the players can use it as well (player controlled ship) as the defiant and BOP are both player controlled ships

    The Caitian stalker fighter is a player controlled ship as well. ;)
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  • shailatshailat Member Posts: 478 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    shpoks wrote: »
    The Caitian stalker fighter is a player controlled ship as well. ;)

    but did u see the size of that thing? :O its so small and fragile 1 shot and it goes boom
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  • thratch1thratch1 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    I could see an argument for Aquarius-class carrier pets, as there's precedent from the Aquarius pet from the Odyssey. Defiant-class pets would be a little much, though -- unlike other ships, it's a Hero ship from the TV series, and well established as a completely independent starship.

    The BoP's and JHAS pets are already pushing it, if you ask me.
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  • sorceror01sorceror01 Member Posts: 1,042 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    I've made the argument of this before, about how Starfleet lacks any signature carrier-types that can deploy a Starfleet frigate-type starship.
    While I ostensibly would like to see the much maligned Jupiter class re-imagined as a Starfleet style carrier, I would emphatically endorse the Spirit class as the signature Starfleet frigate pet, no matter what the ship.
    Considering that the designer of the ship, Mark Rademaker, already managed to get his beloved Vesta class into the game, and has shown an interest in getting more of his ship designs in, it'd make a lot of sense. The Spirit is a bit smaller than a Defiant, has a decent armament, and would probably make a neat Science-oriented frigate pet (as opposed to the much more aggressive B-o-P's of the KDF).
    The Caitian Atrox, while a good Federation Carrier, seems to be designed to launch small craft only, if the hangar bays along the flanks of the craft are any indication. So it really shouldn't launch something as big as a Defiant class (or Miranda's or even the Spirit).
    However, a signature Starfleet carrier (which most of the Federation ships are, if you think about it) could easily be designed to launch a small frigate-type ship.
    If so, I would hope the devs are keeping their eyes on some of Rademaker's other ship designs!
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  • stirling191stirling191 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    *ahem*

    Condors

    That is all.
  • zipagatzipagat Member Posts: 1,204 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Last I checked the Defiant was classed as an heavy escort not a frigate. That would be the Miranda and its variants. That should be the frigate for the feds not a defiant.
  • pyryckpyryck Member Posts: 6 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    The Tactical Oddy carries the Aquarius patrol craft.

    The Aquarius vessel itself is available from fleet shipyards.
  • bluegrassgeekbluegrassgeek Member Posts: 360 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    shailat wrote: »
    but i dont want it to have a cat frigate, it needs the defiant class
    No, it really doesn't. Why would it need a Defiant-style frigate? I wouldn't mind seeing a frigate available for the Atrox, but the Defiant-class makes no sense.
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  • johngazmanjohngazman Member Posts: 2,826 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    shailat wrote: »
    ok well if you put it that way, they should make another carrier that will be able to launch the defaint class

    Because we really need them wasting time on another Fed Carrier. Perhaps when the Rom's have their first carrier, i'll start supporting something like this.

    Of course, I agree with everyone else here - Frigate pets yes, but not the Defiant.
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  • syberghostsyberghost Member Posts: 1,711 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    johngazman wrote: »
    Because we really need them wasting time on another Fed Carrier. Perhaps when the Rom's have their first carrier, i'll start supporting something like this.

    Of course, I agree with everyone else here - Frigate pets yes, but not the Defiant.

    I'll bet you 12 quatloos they already HAVE the first Romulan carrier mostly ready, if not ready, and are simply holding it because you never release EVERYTHING at once; you save some things for future promotion.

    Typically F2P games cycle promotional additions at 30-45 days, depending on your churn rates, to maximize player return.
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  • johngazmanjohngazman Member Posts: 2,826 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    syberghost wrote: »
    I'll bet you 12 quatloos they already HAVE the first Romulan carrier mostly ready, if not ready, and are simply holding it because you never release EVERYTHING at once; you save some things for future promotion.

    Typically F2P games cycle promotional additions at 30-45 days, depending on your churn rates, to maximize player return.

    You're probably right. Still, the whole "keep them in the dark" method bugs me. For the most part, the community has some idea of what's coming. The continued non-commital responses that turn up in Ask Cryptic's or Interviews go a long way to the feeling that Cryptic is flying by the seat of it's pants in terms of content development and release timescales.

    Of course, given the state of some things in LoR (Romulan Boffs, or the general lack thereof, for example), this could be an accurate depiction.
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  • skyranger1414skyranger1414 Member Posts: 1,785 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    I want a proper fed carrier with proper fed frigates, maybe they can be Aquarius frigates.
  • timezargtimezarg Member Posts: 1,268
    edited June 2013
    How about this: Federation can get a full-fledged frigate pet, and in exchange the KDF can get a KDF-specific 5 tac console escort and a 5 fore-weapon escort.

    You know, so we have some actual fair trade. KDF have never really been compensated for the loss of the faction's carrier edge, imo, so a few good science ships could be thrown in as well.
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  • hravikhravik Member Posts: 1,203 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    I would prefer the nx or Miranda classes myself. T1 for t1, and to give those models some mileage at end game.
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