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captainpugwash1
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Just tried playing elite game,,,,,,,,2 players just sat at start, 1 got killed and did not return, 2 of us actually playing bloody joke,,now banned because of some idiots,,,,they need to do something about this,,,,
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10k DPS Vesta threads: 1; 2
It has been said before, so I'll go ahead and say it again.
DON'T PUG STF'S!!!!!
That way you don't have to worry about people going AFK.
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There are idiots to be found everywhere, they are not specific to one timezone. Your best bet is to arrange to fly with Fleet mates, that way you can be a little more sure that people aren't going to go AFK. Unless of course you aren't in a fleet, in which case I would ask why not?
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1 team comms off NO access to stfs
2 fail to use team comms at least once in first minute of Stf automatic removal and replacement with a real person
3 Rewards only awarded to players doing at least 10% of the damage+healing
4 fail to respawn no rewards
5 WARP out no rewards
6 not damaged during mission No rewards
just a suggestion
I hope by comms you only mean typing in the chat channel, otherwise that's discrimination against the deaf, or people who don't have mics. There are also people that play in public places or late at night where using voice comms would be difficult or impossible.
As for warping out, I'm pretty sure that if you warp out you don't get any rewards anyway, and then there is the no damage thing. It is quite possible that carrier pilots with pets or good Engineers using their heals on team mates could sustain no damage during some matches so that provision is right out.
When it comes to heals being dished out, I am certain I have read multiple times on these forums that heals are not properly recorded, thus anyone who spent the entire time dishing out said heals would run the risk of not getting a reward.
Not communicating within the first minute is a little trickier, as I have had issues before where I take a good 45 seconds to load into some STF's when there is extreme load on the server, so punishing me for the game being busy also seems unfair.
In summation, most of those ideas are unworkable or outright discriminatory and would only serve to further degrade the chances of anyone partaking in STF's without the requirement of flying with fleet mates.
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voice comms are basically a waste of time
I had to disable mine due to someone singing the ballad of serenity during Vortex elite
thus the "healing" bit
but if you took no damage you are either afk or using an exploit most of the time (like the old Hide in the cube exploit for example)
1 pt of heal should = 1 pt of damage
game should not start until All players are logged in anyway
and thats YOUR first minute
its either that or auto delete anyone who warps out three times in 10 days
discrimination is not letting people play a mission fairly because someone wants to leech
They need to be as infallible as possible and should be entirely automatic, not requiring the player to do anything above and beyond pointing and shooting. I shouldn't have to be worried that if I don't say anything that I will get booted and/or banned from ESTF's, or that if I choose to take my Engineer in instead of my Tac I won't have to worry about my heals not registering as I would at present.
As it stands I have not done an STF of any kind in ages, mostly because my fleet is rather quiet at the moment and I refuse to do PUG's due to the extremely poor way in which rewards are meted out. I just want to be sure that it is done properly, that is all.
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General
AFKers
Warp outs
"joke ships"
Closed comms
Griefers
Specific
Cure
No one flys guard
EVERYONE Flys guard
Someone thinks you have to knock them all down at the same time
Vortex
No one flys guard
Everyone flys guard
Someone tractor pulses probes through the vortex
Conduit
Someone shouting "10% rule" while not firing
Two people suddenly decide to blow the hell out of everything to annoy the man above
and so on
Some of these were good ideas some will be pointless to implement
Vice Admiral Volmack ISS Thundermole
Brigadier General Jokag IKS Gorkan
Centurion Kares RRW Tomalak
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
I had to laugh at the bolded one, though admitted is I've never seen anyone do that in KASE before.
Sounds like you be better joining a elite STF channel and then you can still avoid PUGS
Vice Admiral Volmack ISS Thundermole
Brigadier General Jokag IKS Gorkan
Centurion Kares RRW Tomalak
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
1 if you mean chat window closed, then I might agree. however with the new ui I can pretty much understand why someone would close as much stuff, as possible :S
2 I tend to not even type hi to a pug stf. hell, I am usually not even flying by the agreed rules like 10% and such. and I can say this objectively, that kicking me out of an instance just for that, would only punish the team
3 healing numbers are kinda broken (esp with the valdore console), plus in the end, that would punish pugs if a good player is joining them (I am not even a good player, and tend to do 50% dmg in the whole instance, so yeah...). an overall dps/hps limit could be done, but where would you draw the line? 1000 dps is a joke, 2000 is too much for some (and even that is a joke). plus you would need a system to parse it correctly, and the numbers would need to be public
4 for how long no respawn? if I die when the awards are coming in, then I get no rewards? plus the respawn timers are pretty long, so the system would need to be adjusted to that, and in the end, this could be exploited fairly easily
5 thats how it works right now
6 I could agree with that. the healboat argument is kinda invalid for pve, as it is kinda useless (it can be useful!, but generally it is too circumstancial), and not dealing ANY dmg at all with such a ship, should not be defendable
10k DPS Vesta threads: 1; 2
ps im not in a fleet as dont get chance to play that much.
There is a general huge lack of Team Work. STF's seem to have gotten a little harder since LOR, so this is more important now.
Starbase defenses... folks need to heal the starbase.
Back to Elite's, and Khitomer for example.
The final boss:
1. Don't get too close, the ship will cloak.
2. I have noticed Gravity Well makes the final boss cloak.
3. Fighter pets get too close and make the final boss cloak.
Infected:
1. Borg sphere's are more aggressive now and seem to be trying to lure players closer to the conduit to aid their demise of you.
I do mean chat window closed
just press any key and enter to prove you are alive
(and almost no one uses the 10% rule by the way)
forget DPS only DPE counts
say 15 seconds after timer cuts out
5 thats how it works right now
Not exactly sadly
any ship not taking damage is fighting for the borg more or less (my T'varo can sit there utterly invisible and still fire most ships can't even then I take damage when the team needs it)
oh and as to healing the starbase (different post)
no point
half the team will warp out on the siege group anyway
No. I communicate quite well. It's not my fault players aren't on Teamspeak with me. I queue up with fleet mates who are also on Teamspeak with me. If we don't have a 5-man team available at the time, I'm not going to bother communicating via text chat with the other person(s). If they don't know what they are doing, they have no business being in an Elite STF, and will receive no help from me. That's what the normal STFs are for.
Arbitrary typing into chat isn't going to help anyway. All I would have to do is type "a" to beat the system. I could even switch to a tab that has team chat disabled, as long as team chat is enabled on another tab. Alternatively, I could make team chat black, or mix it in with my combat log so I don't ever see anybody's comments because they scroll by too fast.
In other words, stop trying to force other players to play the way you prefer.
Too much of an elitist to communicate with people outside of your teamspeak?
If I truly lacked empathy or a conscience I would not take time out of my day to help someone who had a less fortunate education than myself correct their gross misunderstanding of words in the English language.
2 I doubt it, I think it is just random
3 refer to 1
they just went crazy with the EPTx (EPTE in this case) patch, and now flying all over the place. them "luring you closer", is just simply that their mad random flying makes them get stuck in the gate, until you go close enough (and in a given angle at that) to shoot them down.
could be done, tho not the best solution
kinda pointless then, as a solution alone (afker comes in, presses asdf and goes afk)
(well, 10% non-usage comes from either lack of knowledge or too much knowledge, meaning you are either bad, or good to know whatsup, and in my experience, pugs are the former)
they arent too far apart, and imo the game engine could handle dps counting better than dpe counting (if it could handle it at all)
no place where this would work that way comes to mind... example please? (granted, its possible, but I cant remember a place where it would work that way)
well, I would love if others would take dmg, but having 3 points in threat gen, and high dps makes it impossible for the borg to target anything but me (tbh it would be pretty close even without the therat gen, but if I am already attacked, why not get the defense too?
10k DPS Vesta threads: 1; 2
Most of the time I just do it to deal with AFKers, I refuse to work for the leechers gain, so I have only one option and that is to leave. Especially in Azure Nebula Rescue going AFK has become quite popular.
Btw. the rest of the team also has the same choice, to just leave and by doing so deny the AFK player to any rewards.
Vice Admiral Volmack ISS Thundermole
Brigadier General Jokag IKS Gorkan
Centurion Kares RRW Tomalak
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
the warp outs are a major problem on MOST non stf mark awarding events
And the game already counts DPE
No, I have as yet to see team chat be any kind of useful. Always someone raging that the group isn't doing things "the right way" (their way), trying to give directions when they're just flying circles, complaining that they blow up too much, etc. I ran the Elite STFs enough times to get all my Mk XII sets complete PRIOR to the reputation system, so that should give you a general idea of the quantity of bad team chats I've seen.
Team chat is universal and allows such useful questions as
"who has Guard"
"can someone guard the kang?"
"Why are you flying backwards"
and the ever popular "is there anyone Actually ALIVE out there"
I was part of ISEs that had no one communicate or the only communication was someone shout 10% rule so punishing people because they are shy is not a good idea.
Join a active fleet, and group with them.
Problem solved.
Care to explain that? With Teamspeak, I can deliver MORE information using more INTELLIGENT phraseology and ANSWER QUESTIONS in real-time all much FASTER than any human can type. On top of all that, I don't have to temporarily lose control of my ship as I type a message.
Oh, I almost forgot who I was addressing. You have a long-standing history of arguing against anything that is good or makes sense. :rolleyes: