Is it just me, but there seems to be something missing from the Nukara Marks missions in comparison to the other reputation systems.
What I mean is that there doesn't appear to be an elite mission that will reward larger sums of Nukara Marks, circa 60 or higher during bonus event times.
I am aware that there is Crystalline Entity Elite, however this is still bugged as far as I know as the Entity is invincible.
The sheer grind required for the poor rewards on Nukara ground missions, the lack of trading collected items in for extra Nukara marks like on New Romulus, the lack of missions that offer the same level of rewards as elite STFs AND the fact that the levelling and equipment costs are the same as those charged in the other reputation systems means that this is the worst of the reputation grinds.
Bring the effort required into line with the other reputation runs, or drop the amount required to level and purchase the equipment, please!
try azura nebula rescue, i got 45 marks in one box and another 3 in a second box, for a good run, but yeah no elite status stf with more marks thats true
also 45 marks for the vault ensnared
entity is just beatable on normal, elite its the same as before when they took it off the servers. same issue and took ages to get it down to 60% and then after one error of a team mate it was on 97% again, so yeah invincible on elite
Vault Ensnared can give up to 60 marks during the reputation event.
But yeah, Both romulan and nukara marks would benefit from an ESTF like short but hard space mission.
Romulan marks you can get by doing the Epohh tagging, nukara marks is just a pain, im just happy that i don't need the Nukara gear...
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both get more. azura 45+ when 2 times a scimitar comes.
and the vault with a good team, all ships rescued and being under 40percent od the web with the named ship in the end destroyed also you get 45+ also
Compared to Omega Marks and Romulan Marks, Tholian marks is like dragging your feet. Normal Omega, you get 60 Marks, Romulan Patrol you get 60 or 400 doing Epohhs. But the best is Ensared, which is measly compared to the other two.
Use to be, one mission and you was set for a day or two, but with Tholian Marks, you need to do two or three events per day. And that's just for daily reputation, gets much more involved if you're unlocking the stores or buying the gear.
So seems like they intentionally set the bar low so we grind over the months til the next content, but they clearly ignored that people had enough of grinding a few months ago, so they aren't listening like they claim. So we have to suffer though bad content until whatever is next.
All the more reason why there is a growing movement of peopel who want reputation and accolades being account wide, so we don't have to spend our day grinding on multiple characters and turning our fun into a job.
Has anyone had a good look at the rewards, at the moment I am not going to start another rep unless it is really worth it. I dont like any of these missions and havent done one of the since I discovered (rather late) Romulan bunny chasing.
Has anyone had a good look at the rewards, at the moment I am not going to start another rep unless it is really worth it. I dont like any of these missions and havent done one of the since I discovered (rather late) Romulan bunny chasing.
Only rewards I personally found good are the Ultra Rare Widow Fighters and the Swords.
And the Swords are better than the Lobi Crystaline swords since they are gunswords (meaning they absorb blasts like the Crystaline Sword, but you fire it in a sniper blast that can vaporaize an NPC on an expose).
But I was not impressed with the Tholian Tetryon weapons, nor the drones. And no point in doing the EVA suits when everyones got them.
Welcome to the Defera Invasion marks farming for Omega that those that don't do STFs for whatever reason, not confident enough, don't want the drama, or what not have to go through.
They need to bring both Omega and Nukara in line with Romulan mark missions. Romulan marks are so easy to get I am working on tier 5 rep and have over 3k marks on one of my characters.
There really is no need to go to the area of space where the Borg missions are since they have removed the assimilated module as one of the mission rewards. The rewards for replaying them are pretty poor when compared to the rest, mostly green mk xi and some blue mk xi shields. They could do something there for Omega marks to make it worth going to and not a waste of space, no pun intended. Some dailies there for Omega marks would be nice.
Maybe even add them as optional rewards to the missions say 15-20. They could even restrict this to a daily reward if they don't want people farming the missions for them. This would also keep the STFs as the main way to get them but open up options for those that don't do them for whatever reason.
They could add Nukara marks to the Temporal Ambassador mission as an option like the dilithium, again resctricting it to a daily reward. Have them drop off the Tholians we kill on New Romulus either through the red alert or the instanced missions.
I'm fortunate enough to own both the Recluse and Orb Weaver on my main toon and had an absolute blast on Tribble running with the top Tholian reputation sets and weapons. I even shelved my MACO XII space gear in preference.
Considering the time it'll take to gain the T5 rep, let alone finding another 3,000 Nukara marks for the MkXII space set, I may as well fly on Tribble and forget Holodeck until Cryptic do something about the rewards.
Only rewards I personally found good are the Ultra Rare Widow Fighters and the Swords.
And the Swords are better than the Lobi Crystaline swords since they are gunswords (meaning they absorb blasts like the Crystaline Sword, but you fire it in a sniper blast that can vaporaize an NPC on an expose).
But I was not impressed with the Tholian Tetryon weapons, nor the drones. And no point in doing the EVA suits when everyones got them.
Thanks, makes it an easy choice.
One question, how do the Ultra Rare Widow Fighters compare with the Ultra Rare Scorpion Fighters? If they were significantly better, then that might be one reason to do it.
Has anyone had a good look at the rewards, at the moment I am not going to start another rep unless it is really worth it. I dont like any of these missions and havent done one of the since I discovered (rather late) Romulan bunny chasing.
if your into ground pvp the drone thingies might interest you, if you love recluse/OWeaver, some of the TRIBBLE may interest you, everything else? not really
After reading the above posts I just tried Vault Ensnared with a good PuG and met all the requirements for mission success. Result:
24 Nukara Reputation marks!
If I'd have spent the same time in ISE I would have been awarded 75!
What a rip off!
25 Marks is very low, did the vault wall go up completely? I typically get 38 to 50 marks (after opening both boxes). That said, even when I get the 'perfect run' results, it's less than ISE and also without the nice potential cash out from BNPs or loot.
Welcome to the Defera Invasion marks farming for Omega that those that don't do STFs for whatever reason, not confident enough, don't want the drama, or what not have to go through.
Hrm. Looks like I'll be skipping Nukara rep like I did Omega. That's a shame, after how New Rom worked, I'd been expecting something similar with a variety of valid options.
Epohhs are a nice way to coast through New Romulus rep, but TBH they are kind of an exploit. I'm not surprised Cryptic didn't create an analog to that for Nukara.
I thought CE Elite was supposed to be the Elite mission for Nukara marks, but it just rewards gear and dilithium like a fleet action? I haven't tried it, since from what I hear it's broken and unbeatable right now, but that's all the PvE queue says it rewards.
I have leveled Omega and Romulan rep to tier 5 on my main fed. Given the choice of leveling Nakura on that toon or leveling ROM and Omega on my new Reman toon, I am choosing the later. There's just not enough time for what little they give and the rewards don't really justify the trouble.
Only the first two Nukara traits seem actually worthwile for everyone, the third for those who enjoy ground PvP and the fourth for Vesta pilots which run all aux-cannons. All other ships gain basically nothing from the fourth trait. You can check in space how much bonus you get from your auxiliary power. My aux power level is ~50 on my Mogai and I would get +8 to weapon skills. Considering that +30 to weapon skills from the Omega reputation barely increased my damage at all, I would say TRIBBLE this trait. Nukara is apparently only for people who want Tetryon weapons badly and sets which are directed against Tholians (why would anyone need these?).
I will probably stop leveling Nukara rep after reaching Tier II.
I'm waiting for eCE to be debuged to start the Nukara reputation.
I'm not really interested by it anyway, only for the space set (maybe) on my sci, otherwise I do'nt care. The passive are meh (yeah shield penetration, oh wait, useless), the ground set is made for Tholian, and useless otherwise, and I'm not a big fan of melee.
And I find the adventure zone being a waste of ressources and useless. I never go to defera, nukara and new romulus. Now that Nimbus 3 episodes are done, I won't go there either.
If I liked adventure zone that much, I'd play LOTRO, I still have my LTS, and the adventure zone are better.
25 Marks is very low, did the vault wall go up completely? I typically get 38 to 50 marks (after opening both boxes). That said, even when I get the 'perfect run' results, it's less than ISE and also without the nice potential cash out from BNPs or loot.
Following up on this, just had a clear that was 10/10, 40%, and Flagship reward all of 28 N. Marks. So I'm guessing that I was getting consistently reward marks that were significantly greater than normal. I don't think it should be doubling, but in any case, I apologize. I was wrong.
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Bring the effort required into line with the other reputation runs, or drop the amount required to level and purchase the equipment, please!
also 45 marks for the vault ensnared
entity is just beatable on normal, elite its the same as before when they took it off the servers. same issue and took ages to get it down to 60% and then after one error of a team mate it was on 97% again, so yeah invincible on elite
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But yeah, Both romulan and nukara marks would benefit from an ESTF like short but hard space mission.
Romulan marks you can get by doing the Epohh tagging, nukara marks is just a pain, im just happy that i don't need the Nukara gear...
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-Azure Rescue (25ish)
-Vault Ensnared (40ish)
There is literally no point to doing the ground missions on Nukara prime.
and the vault with a good team, all ships rescued and being under 40percent od the web with the named ship in the end destroyed also you get 45+ also
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Also the ground sets aren't costumes so I don't know if I will ever be doing the nukara reputation on any character.
Use to be, one mission and you was set for a day or two, but with Tholian Marks, you need to do two or three events per day. And that's just for daily reputation, gets much more involved if you're unlocking the stores or buying the gear.
So seems like they intentionally set the bar low so we grind over the months til the next content, but they clearly ignored that people had enough of grinding a few months ago, so they aren't listening like they claim. So we have to suffer though bad content until whatever is next.
All the more reason why there is a growing movement of peopel who want reputation and accolades being account wide, so we don't have to spend our day grinding on multiple characters and turning our fun into a job.
This is still very poor in comparison and given the amount of time taken to complete Ensnared we should have walked away with circa 75 NMs.
24 Nukara Reputation marks!
If I'd have spent the same time in ISE I would have been awarded 75!
What a rip off!
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Only rewards I personally found good are the Ultra Rare Widow Fighters and the Swords.
And the Swords are better than the Lobi Crystaline swords since they are gunswords (meaning they absorb blasts like the Crystaline Sword, but you fire it in a sniper blast that can vaporaize an NPC on an expose).
But I was not impressed with the Tholian Tetryon weapons, nor the drones. And no point in doing the EVA suits when everyones got them.
They need to bring both Omega and Nukara in line with Romulan mark missions. Romulan marks are so easy to get I am working on tier 5 rep and have over 3k marks on one of my characters.
There really is no need to go to the area of space where the Borg missions are since they have removed the assimilated module as one of the mission rewards. The rewards for replaying them are pretty poor when compared to the rest, mostly green mk xi and some blue mk xi shields. They could do something there for Omega marks to make it worth going to and not a waste of space, no pun intended. Some dailies there for Omega marks would be nice.
Maybe even add them as optional rewards to the missions say 15-20. They could even restrict this to a daily reward if they don't want people farming the missions for them. This would also keep the STFs as the main way to get them but open up options for those that don't do them for whatever reason.
They could add Nukara marks to the Temporal Ambassador mission as an option like the dilithium, again resctricting it to a daily reward. Have them drop off the Tholians we kill on New Romulus either through the red alert or the instanced missions.
Considering the time it'll take to gain the T5 rep, let alone finding another 3,000 Nukara marks for the MkXII space set, I may as well fly on Tribble and forget Holodeck until Cryptic do something about the rewards.
Cyptic really dropped the ball on this one.
Thanks, makes it an easy choice.
One question, how do the Ultra Rare Widow Fighters compare with the Ultra Rare Scorpion Fighters? If they were significantly better, then that might be one reason to do it.
if your into ground pvp the drone thingies might interest you, if you love recluse/OWeaver, some of the TRIBBLE may interest you, everything else? not really
25 Marks is very low, did the vault wall go up completely? I typically get 38 to 50 marks (after opening both boxes). That said, even when I get the 'perfect run' results, it's less than ISE and also without the nice potential cash out from BNPs or loot.
Hrm. Looks like I'll be skipping Nukara rep like I did Omega. That's a shame, after how New Rom worked, I'd been expecting something similar with a variety of valid options.
I thought CE Elite was supposed to be the Elite mission for Nukara marks, but it just rewards gear and dilithium like a fleet action? I haven't tried it, since from what I hear it's broken and unbeatable right now, but that's all the PvE queue says it rewards.
It is that bad....
I will probably stop leveling Nukara rep after reaching Tier II.
I'm not really interested by it anyway, only for the space set (maybe) on my sci, otherwise I do'nt care. The passive are meh (yeah shield penetration, oh wait, useless), the ground set is made for Tholian, and useless otherwise, and I'm not a big fan of melee.
And I find the adventure zone being a waste of ressources and useless. I never go to defera, nukara and new romulus. Now that Nimbus 3 episodes are done, I won't go there either.
If I liked adventure zone that much, I'd play LOTRO, I still have my LTS, and the adventure zone are better.
Following up on this, just had a clear that was 10/10, 40%, and Flagship reward all of 28 N. Marks. So I'm guessing that I was getting consistently reward marks that were significantly greater than normal. I don't think it should be doubling, but in any case, I apologize. I was wrong.
I wouldn't go that far, you can do the two hard missions for 30 marks and together they take all of 5 mins.
Kirk's Protege.
Your Javelin deals 125417 (89066) Disruptor Damage(Critical) to Tholian Recluse. > lol