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Romulan can have 5 superior operative?
playhard88
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Isn't that a bit too much? As FED/KDF you can only have tacticals with superior operative (that means 1 or 2 in most of the ships). Romulans can have all 5 boff with superior operative, plus some of them with subterfuge because there are romulan boffs with both traits (that option is not aviable for KDF)
I know everybody likes the new rommys, but this should be balanced, for a tactical 5 superior operative is not a minor thing.
I know everybody likes the new rommys, but this should be balanced, for a tactical 5 superior operative is not a minor thing.
John Sheridan@playhard88 - FED Tactical
Vin Naftero@playhard88 - FED Sciencie
K'tan@playhard88 - KDF Tactical
Argento@playhard88 - RRF Tactical (FED)
Vin Naftero@playhard88 - FED Sciencie
K'tan@playhard88 - KDF Tactical
Argento@playhard88 - RRF Tactical (FED)
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the most you can have which stack is one superior operative and one normal operative.
any other +crit BOFF is just wasted, if he does not have subterfuge, efficient, veteran, plasma or whatever other trait too.
yes, they do now. You can stack multiple superior operative
If i want stupid answers, i would rather go to yahoo answers.
Vin Naftero@playhard88 - FED Sciencie
K'tan@playhard88 - KDF Tactical
Argento@playhard88 - RRF Tactical (FED)
The game disagrees with you there, unless it is a display bug, but parser agrees with the display.
Saying that, I do have 5 Romulan Boffs, 2 with superior operative, 2 with romlan operative and 1 with basic, I don't notice a difference at all in the amount of crits, and my character, says it has covert operative for 2% crit, yet it's trait skill now says Romulan Operative for 1.5% crit, and I've had to pay for my Boffs, I never received one with any of the operative traits, I've spent 105 mill, and it feels like I've been cheated, so even if there is a nerf, I will only feel that much more cheated lol.
Rarity has absolutely nothing to do with balance.
Please dont shout with inaccurate info.
Superior Operative was stackable way before LoR.
Leadership stacks
Subterfuge stacks
Operative stacks
Vet stacks
Infiltrator doesn't
and now you know.
+Def does, but +Stealth shouldn't be. If it is stacking again, then it's a bug. That was changed in early March...when the +Def was added.
So you tested the infiltration? No duration increase? Interesting, you better not be spouting misinformation :P
and knowing is half the battle.
GI JOE!
you know what the other half is?
extreme violence.
Do you even Science Bro?
Ah I stand corrected.
Also to correct myself I never checked to see if infiltrators +def stacks... I think it did... but the +time for bonus dmg part does not.
Ya I have 2 Reman Superior Infs.... ya know I never did test a Superior and a non superior. lol
Still gives me the bonus for close to 15s... and my cloak is down to 11s... so
vids and guides and stuff
[9:52] [Zone #11] Neal@trapper1532: im a omega force shadow oprative and a maoc elite camander and here i am taking water samples
Let's see...
Crit chance:
2.5% - base
2% - Energy/projectile specialization
.76% - Borg console
.76% - Tachyokinetic console
10% - 5 Romulan BOFFs with
1.8% - Zero-point console
1.5% Romulan captain
6% - CrtHx3 weapon
3% - Romulan crit passive
(I think that's everything)
Total: 20.52%*-26.52% (without tac buffs)
*Doesn't include CrtH weapons with this
Crit Severity:
50% - base
25% Energy/projectile specialization
7.6% - Borg console
7.6% - Tachyokinetic console
25% - 5 Romulan BOFFs
X% - Romulan captain (can't remember how much exactly, wanna say 15%)
10% - DHCs only
20% - Antiproton weapons only
60% - CrtDx3 weapons
Total: 130.2%*-220.2% (without tac buffs)
*Doesn't include DHCs, antiproton weapons, or CrtD weapons
I'm pretty sure I forgot something though in one or both calculations. I didn't include accuracy over-cap for either though.
Apologies if I sounded somewhat sarcastic. I was merely pointing out that Fed have been benefiting for stacking boffs for a while now. I kind of see that as a bit of a double standard.
i tested this on my Romulan, and yes, the operative +crit stacks with various versions (basic, normal, superior) and also the same versions of the trait do stack!
It's supposed to be, but it isn't.
Just going to point out that you can't have Crth x3 and Crtd x3 on the same weapon.
Yep, exactly.
I'm not sure when this forum rumor of Operative not stacking came into being, but Operative has most definitely been stackable before LoR.
Pretty sure the T5 skills cap at 2% for 9 ranks.
Back when it was first introduced Operative went through about four different stages of stacking adjustments. First everything stacked, then it was set to not stack pending the nerf, then after the rework only different versions stacked, then it went back to fully stacking.
It's been a confusing course, and frankly given how much buggery is involved with boff traits conflicting accounts are to be expected.
Fair enough.
At the same time, this is one of the easier things a player can test for on their own before spreading it on the forums.
On that point we're in full agreement. At the least folks can put a "this is by report" disclaimer when working with secondhand info.
Back to the topic at hand:
My (admittedly setup for PvE) Fleet Dhelan is hitting Boff-buffed (no captain skills since sensor scan is borked at the moment) DHC crits in the 10-12k range. I cannot imagine the kind of carnage a full-blown alpha could potentially do.
At times, it generally feels like one should check everything each and every time they log in on a toon after a patch...not all changes are - ahem - announced. Otherwise, one can end up flying along thinking they're sporting X when they're actually sporting Y...meh.
I know. That's why I gave the two sets of numbers. So as to give the numbers with CrtH OR CrtD weapons, and numbers without either.
Really? I could've sworn I've seen in here before that it was 2.5% for those. If not, not a big change in numbers.
+2% CrtH
+25% CrtD
Thank you. I will adjust the numbers accordingly.