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tsurutafan01
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So, explain to me why every time we do a maintenance, which is now a daily occurance I need another 100 Meg patch.
Explain to me what the content of that patch is. "Server stability" isn't an explanation, it's a catchphrase. Explain the content of the patch.
Explain to me why we now need these daily.
Explain to me what the content of that patch is. "Server stability" isn't an explanation, it's a catchphrase. Explain the content of the patch.
Explain to me why we now need these daily.
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Agreed, It's considered good etiquette to inform me what you're putting on my computer.
Download another 100 + meg patch without telling me what exactly it is, and I'm gonna fly across the country to put lawn flamingos and gnomes all over Cryptic studio's grounds.
Given the extremely short notice that the server was coming down for emergency maintenance, I can only assume that it was done to prevent an imminent failure. If that is true, then why after coming back up is there a 135MB patch to apply and no patch notes?
Explain to me: Why are there no patch notes?
now tak Team+hazzard Emitters + some other skills works right and stfs become playable.:D
most traits also fixed today also great job.
the only very importend fix is the skill, fighting down, it was not fixed check it pls.;)
Tbh im fed up with all the downtime and downloading seems to me they dont have a clue what they are doing.
am i doing it right OP?
Don't be a moron.
I'm asking a legitimate question about why a simple server stability patch is so large, and is needed repeatedly.
They seem overly large for simple correcting of errors/fixing in server code. I'm just curious why we're getting hit with one daily lately, what their content is, and why the file seems relatively large to the task.
A lot of people in that pesky "rest of the world" don't have infinite bandwidth, and it seems a perfectly reasonable inquiry. If we're going to have one of these a day for the first week, it's going to add up for some people. And if so, just let the designers say so, let those people take 4 or 5 days off, and then they can come back uninterrupted for the next 6 months.
Trying to turn this into a troll thread is weak sauce, even for this place.
"We are smart." - Grebnedlog
Member of Alliance Central Command/boq botlhra'ghom
I mean we are talking about 135 million characters
Even if so, some patch notes would be nice...
I AM a programmer and 135mb patch every single day doesn't tell me things are being fixed, it tells me the launcher is losing the data from the previous patch. If things were getting fixed, the patch would be of various sizes but it isn't. It is 135mb every single day.
It looks to me that it isn't a 135mb patch downloaded everyday, because the patching process is much faster then my download speed, it looks like its changing the code of some files in the sto folder, and im only dowloading the changes, and im guessing they are tweaking the same files each time for stability so it looks like its a 135 mb patch, even though it seems that it means that its patching the same files over and over each day. That would make sense if they were trying to fix some bugs and aren't quite getting them each time.
Patch notes sure would be nice... along with a list of them on the launcher or at least a link to them. Seems like the only game I play that doesnt do that.
The doors, Mister Scott!
With all these daily fixes, you'd think they fix the email so we delete an email. IT's been broke since Tuesday's launch.
I know enough about computers to say with confidence I've never heard of server maintenance on any kind of server in my life that works this way.
"We are smart." - Grebnedlog
Member of Alliance Central Command/boq botlhra'ghom
You're sort of right.
I track my downloaded usage exactly, and the true download amount has been roughly 70-100, depending on the day. Certain files are simply skipped over, which means they aren't being altered.
It still seems excessive, and it's now a daily thing apparently.
"We are smart." - Grebnedlog
Member of Alliance Central Command/boq botlhra'ghom
Every day so far I go to log in the game, and wait up to 3 or 4 hours to download and install a tiny patch... Its a joke.
I can download everywhere else at 2Meg/s easy, not these patches it seems.
They've begun a systematic program of invading and taking over your computer in an effort to steal all of your information, your money, your wife and kids, and to ultimately control your thoughts and actions.
Either that, or they are actively fixing the problems that have been identified sooner rather than later.
Take your pick.
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Consider switching your ISP. It only takes me minutes to download 135megs.
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The patch is 135mb. This is never the actual amount downloaded.
Lets say that 135mb is the dedicated section of the STO install that governs the game instructing your computer on how to talk to the server. This includes everything from moving to firing a torpedo.
Then look at the amount you downloaded. That small fraction is what they have fixed. Now when we look at code, as any actual programmer will tell you, lines of code interact with each other. One can fix one thing and break another. It is a long drawn out process of find and repair.
Now the notes. 99.9% of people playing this game are not programmers, though they do think they are totally capable of doing a programmer/dev/artist/etc job, and would not understand most of what is going on if Cryptic gave full in-depth patch notes.
The Devs have done a great job with this expansion and, like ALL mmo expansions, they have found a few bugs and are working tirelessly to fix them.
Just please think before actually posting such vitriol about something you think you are entitled to, when in actual fact, if they gave you that level of depth in patch notes, you would probably not even read them.
TL;DR
Stop ya whining, you do not need to know what the **** they are changing in lines of code, take the downtime to go outside and get some fresh air. Have a decent meal, meet with friends and family, watch a sporting event. Perhaps ou will have a happy surprise patch waiting for ya when you gets back :P
Regards.
Code is split into chunks of related functionality. Usually if you fix one minor thing in a given chunk of code you must rebuild that entire chunk. I suspect that is the case here. They are fixing bugs in a number of chunks of code and have to rebuild and redeploy each of the chunks they worked on even though each individual change was small.
Edit: TRIBBLE, avast! detects crypticError.exe as malware. Crappy false positive.
To be honest, with the way you are demanding answers, if I was Cryptic I would not explain anything to you.
Its true it would be nice to get a patch note every time they make changes but if they choose not to then that's up to them... you don't have to download the patch, just stop playing until Cryptic give in to your demands... Almighty tsurutafan01! *Continually bows while walking backwards out of the the room.*
Its not downloading 100 megs, its patching 100 megs worth of files.
Its actually downloading closer to 15-20 megs.
Anyway even if it was 100 megs that's not a massive amount.
One of the inherent problems when you randomise your test group and then the majority of them just gush with praise instead of finding errors to be fixed, when there were and still are many left to be fixed.
However, for some reason, when it comes to Shaddercache.ogg from STO, it takes me about 30m.
It started on tribble when they first added LoR, and continue so far. 30minute patching everyday is tiresome.
Especially considering sometimes the patching process restart in the end, just like for this patch. Which mean at least 1h patching.
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Now shaddup about the queues, it's a BUG
wtf are the patches actually accomplishing?
Daily patches yet the last patch notes are the 24th. That just says to me nothing is actually being patched..
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