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eradicator84eradicator84 Member Posts: 1,116 Arc User
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Is it possible to have the game launcher show the patch times converted into the users systems' localized time zone?

When ever (emergency)patches come around I'm fumbling around looking for sites to convert the times into something that means something to me.

You manage it in the in-game events calendar thingy well enough, so surely this can be done too in the game launcher.


If showing the correct time is too hard, how about a simple count down timer?

Also, same thing for the STO main web page. These forums know my time zone, use that to convert for me, or maybe the browser can pass on time zone stuff to help calculate, I don't know. Failing that, a count down timer will be just as beneficial imo.


Please make it so!
Thanks :)
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  • x0ligyx0ligy Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    I agree, i dont see whats so hard for them to get the computers localized time and then converting it, or like you said the time with a count down. I suppose its so people dont keep asking "When it is" and someone saying its X time thens omeone else saying its y time because they are different locaitons i dunno.
  • redshirtthefirstredshirtthefirst Member Posts: 415 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Bran always link to a site that converts instantly to your local time...
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  • x0ligyx0ligy Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Bran always link to a site that converts instantly to your local time...

    Thats not on the game launcher not everyone checks the site nor feels the need to. :rolleyes:
  • dirlettiadirlettia Member Posts: 1,632 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    I would prefer if the games companies should do a countdown to times but that can be a little unwieldy for some folks. Myself, on windows 7, I use the add clock option to display Cryptics time zone (as well as LoTRO's) so when they are announcing downtimes i can see at a glance when they will be. Under normal use I just see my local time.

    To try it:

    1. click on clock
    2. click on change date and time settings
    3. click on additional clocks
    4. select timezone for clock and tick box to enable that clock
    5. apply and you will see the result

    Still waiting to be able to use forum titles
  • saxfiresaxfire Member Posts: 558 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Nice idea, I respect.
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  • thecosmic1thecosmic1 Member Posts: 9,365 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    x0ligy wrote: »
    Thats not on the game launcher not everyone checks the site nor feels the need to. :rolleyes:
    But both PST and GMT are on the game launcher. If you live in Europe then you know that all time is based on GMT and your position is +/- relative to that. So, for example, people in Italy know they're GMT +2.

    And if you live in the US and don't know to add 0, 1, 2, or 3 depending on where you live, well, I'll just call that US education fail. :)

    Yes, it would be nice if you didn't need to do some simple math, but we're not talking algebra or geometry here. Simply addition/subtraction. :)
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  • mirrorchaosmirrorchaos Member Posts: 9,844 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    the west coast is -8 hours, so its very simple to work it out for me here near europe. the server went down 3pm bst which would made it 7am pst. since bst is now in summer daylight settings branflakes' information may look inaccurate but i think he is using UTC which would put it off the west coast of Ireland, since that entire island and the UK are +1 ahead.

    but if their server was in russia, moscow just for example and argument sake, that would +4 on bst, so its 3pm bst that would make it 7pm in moscow.

    make it simple by 24 hour clock;

    bst to pst: 15 - 8 = 7 (8 hours)

    msk to pst: 19 - 12 = 7 (12 hours)
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  • x0ligyx0ligy Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    thecosmic1 wrote: »
    But both PST and GMT are on the game launcher. If you live in Europe then you know that all time is based on GMT and your position is +/- relative to that. So, for example, people in Italy know they're GMT +2.

    And if you live in the US and don't know to add 0, 1, 2, or 3 depending on where you live, well, I'll just call that US education fail. :)

    Yes, it would be nice if you didn't need to do some simple math, but we're not talking algebra or geometry here. Simply addition/subtraction. :)

    Its UTC so haven't you just "failed" as you said? Or are you like the others who didnt know UTC was GMT? Me personally was looking at PMT and then figuring out the time because i stopped reading after PMT.

    Maybe before you say people fail you should make sure what you writing is whats on the launcher. ;)
  • thecosmic1thecosmic1 Member Posts: 9,365 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    x0ligy wrote: »
    Its UTC so haven't you just "failed" as you said? Or are you like the others who didnt know UTC was GMT? Me personally was looking at PMT and then figuring out the time because i stopped reading after PMT.

    Maybe before you say people fail you should make sure what you writing is whats on the launcher. ;)
    The patch states it starts at 1400, which is 14:00 GMT. It started a little over an hour ago at that time. It's now 15:07 GMT - and the patch has been going a little over an hour.

    Never mind. I don't wan to argue about it. :)

    Here's a nice linking explaining the difference between UTC and GMT, for those who don't know.
    STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
  • mirrorchaosmirrorchaos Member Posts: 9,844 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    the flip side of this daylight savings thing is that a number of countries do not follow dst but i know almost every state in the usa does as does most of europe.
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  • x0ligyx0ligy Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    thecosmic1 wrote: »
    The patch states it starts at 1400, which is 14:00 GMT. It started a little over an hour ago at that time. It's now 15:09 GMT - and the patch has been going a little over an hour.

    Never mind. I don't wan to argue about it. :)

    The "launcher" not the patch states 1400 UTC not GMT.

    I have not heard of UTC before today something you dont seem to understand because like you im use to GMT. Now maybe if you read things rather than trying to act smart you'd get somewhere in life? :rolleyes:
  • thecosmic1thecosmic1 Member Posts: 9,365 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    x0ligy wrote: »
    The "launcher" not the patch states 1400 UTC not GMT.

    I have not heard of UTC before today something you dont seem to understand because like you im use to GMT. Now maybe if you read things rather than trying to act smart you'd get somewhere in life? :rolleyes:
    I supplied a link in the post with my edit that talks about UTC and what it means. You should go back and read it.

    And I'll ignore the personal attack, as I don't need to attack someone's character to show how mature I am. :)
    STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
  • decroniadecronia Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    x0ligy wrote: »
    The "launcher" not the patch states 1400 UTC not GMT.

    I have not heard of UTC before today something you dont seem to understand because like you im use to GMT. Now maybe if you read things rather than trying to act smart you'd get somewhere in life? :rolleyes:

    UCT and GMT are in effect the same thing. Oh and just in case I am a Brit before you try to throw something my way.

    Edit: It would have been quicker to google it than to write the reply you did.
  • x0ligyx0ligy Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    thecosmic1 wrote: »
    I supplied a link in the post with my edit that talks about UTC and what it means. You should go back and read it.

    And I'll ignore the personal attack, as I don't need to attack someone's character to show how mature I am. :)

    Thought you didnt want to argue yet your telling me to go back and read something? No thanks...

    As for insults didnt you insult the american education system? Im not american but thats not showing your mature at all sorry.

    Im now, done with you =)
    decronia wrote: »
    UCT and GMT are in effect the same thing. Oh and just in case I am a Brit before you try to throw something my way.
    Why would i throw something at you?
    I stated that i hadn't heard of UTC till today because im use to GMT its what ive known all my life and like you said they are the same from the small research i did and shall continue to use.. GMT.

    As for "im a brit" comment i dont get why your telling me that i really dont care where your from like you dont care where im from. I could be french, german, british, american, australian, uhngarian who cares? Not me, like i wouldnt care if you were from mars.
  • theodrimtheodrim Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    x0ligy wrote: »
    Thats not on the game launcher not everyone checks the site nor feels the need to.

    ...said to a person, on the forums. By a person, on the forums. And read by anyone who might respond, on the forums. I think we've established that people, assuming they're not complete dullards and have the intellectual curiosity and industry to learn things for themselves, can go on the internet (which we all can be said to have, since we're talking about a game that's played on the internet, on the internet) and look these things up for themselves. I heard this newfangled Googly thing is nice.
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  • decroniadecronia Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    x0ligy wrote: »
    Why would i throw something at you?
    I stated that i hadn't heard of UTC till today because im use to GMT its what ive known all my life and like you said they are the same from the small research i did and shall continue to use.. GMT.

    Simple your reply to Cosmics post where he even provided a link to the info needed. He did the work and posted a link and still you have a go at him.
  • mirrorchaosmirrorchaos Member Posts: 9,844 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    according to what i know GMT and UTC are not the same thing any more due to the daylight savings. during the later autumn, winter and later spring time of the year GMT goes back to UTC, during summer and early autumn, it goes forward an hour, GMT isno longer on UTC.

    UTC is a time point which all other time zones are set by, it is also the time point which all internet network clocks are set by as well. UTC is based on something called TAI and UTC has some irregular timings to account for the earth's rotation if im not mistaken. this sort of thing where science is involved is way beyond my understanding.
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  • x0ligyx0ligy Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    theodrim wrote: »
    ...said to a person, on the forums. By a person, on the forums. And read by anyone who might respond, on the forums. I think we've established that people, assuming they're not complete dullards and have the intellectual curiosity and industry to learn things for themselves, can go on the internet (which we all can be said to have, since we're talking about a game that's played on the internet, on the internet) and look these things up for themselves. I heard this newfangled Googly thing is nice.

    Why did i join "the forums" to complain about the down time i then asked for ship build help and decided to comment in this thread. Im amazed at how many people get there knickers ina twist over something so insignificant.
  • decroniadecronia Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    according to what i know GMT and UTC are not the same thing any more due to the daylight savings. during the later autumn, winter and later spring time of the year GMT goes back to UTC, during summer and early autumn, it goes forward an hour, GMT isno longer on UTC.

    GMT never changes. What you are talking about is BST or British Summer Time which places us an hour ahead of GMT and then we go back to GMT.
  • x0ligyx0ligy Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    decronia wrote: »
    Simple your reply to Cosmics post where he even provided a link to the info needed. He did the work and posted a link and still you have a go at him.

    I had already looked up UTC, im still amazed at how many of you can not read though.
    Me wrote:
    Me personally was looking at PMT and then figuring out the time because i stopped reading after PMT

    now im leaving this thread its just full of people that can not read it seems.
  • neoakiraiineoakiraii Member Posts: 7,468 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    x0ligy wrote: »
    Its UTC so haven't you just "failed" as you said? Or are you like the others who didnt know UTC was GMT? Me personally was looking at PMT and then figuring out the time because i stopped reading after PMT.

    Maybe before you say people fail you should make sure what you writing is whats on the launcher. ;)

    Here let me Google that for you
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  • mirrorchaosmirrorchaos Member Posts: 9,844 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    decronia wrote: »
    GMT never changes. What you are talking about is BST or British Summer Time which places us an hour ahead of GMT and then we go back to GMT.

    ahh i see, i just did a quick look up im confusing gmt and bst. my bad.
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  • epsilons232epsilons232 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Given that mistakes with the calculation are easy to make (-3 or +3, +/- 1 hour for daylight saving??) the request isn't so unreasonable.

    But on the other hand why are downtime needed and especially mid day for Europeans? Been playing for 6 days and already had 2 major downtime (and numerous server disconnects and 6Gb patch loads).

    I read that they have their servers at 3 locations, serving the 3 regions (US west, US East & EU). So why don't they do rolling maintenance: bring 1 site down, redirect traffic to 1 of the 2 other locations, do the maintenance and at the end redirect traffic to nearest locations and repeat this 3 times. While doing so they can actually time it so dat DT is the region's slow hours instead of midday.
  • decroniadecronia Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    I seem to remember there was mention of the possability of rotating the down times so no one area was hit with them all the time at peak time. It would be nice to see that happen.
  • thecosmic1thecosmic1 Member Posts: 9,365 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    But on the other hand why are downtime needed and especially mid day for Europeans? Been playing for 6 days and already had 2 major downtime (and numerous server disconnects and 6Gb patch loads).
    Standard maintenance down-times are based on server data. The time is chosen when the data shows the least number of people are historically using the servers - thus the least number of people are inconvenienced. At this current time that is 7-9 AM PST.
    STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
  • thecosmic1thecosmic1 Member Posts: 9,365 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    decronia wrote: »
    I seem to remember there was mention of the possability of rotating the down times so no one area was hit with them all the time at peak time. It would be nice to see that happen.
    Because we all play on the same shard I don't know that it's possible to only bring down one section of the server for maintenance at a time. Other games can do that because they've divided their player-base into sub-shards - they isolated from each other in their sub-shards so what happens there has no impact on other shards.
    STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
  • mirrorchaosmirrorchaos Member Posts: 9,844 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Given that mistakes with the calculation are easy to make (-3 or +3, +/- 1 hour for daylight saving??) the request isn't so unreasonable.

    But on the other hand why are downtime needed and especially mid day for Europeans? Been playing for 6 days and already had 2 major downtime (and numerous server disconnects and 6Gb patch loads).

    I read that they have their servers at 3 locations, serving the 3 regions (US west, US East & EU). So why don't they do rolling maintenance: bring 1 site down, redirect traffic to 1 of the 2 other locations, do the maintenance and at the end redirect traffic to nearest locations and repeat this 3 times. While doing so they can actually time it so dat DT is the region's slow hours instead of midday.

    i suspect their "servers" are nothing then proxy connections to one main hub in canada somewhere like the east and west coast "servers" in the states, the proxy is adjusted to compensate for the connection delay i also suspect. which accounts for why the servers go down early in the morning state side and a highly inconvenient time in europe.
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  • srafaoraspsrafaorasp Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    A few things here.

    1. took me all of 30 seconds or less to find a website to convert time zones.

    2. in windows 7 you can add more clocks in to the task trey. they will not be visible but when you mouse over the clock it will give you your other clocks as well. this is what i do.

    the game is based on the west coast USA. that is the time you get.
  • decroniadecronia Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    thecosmic1 wrote: »
    Because we all play on the same shard I don't know that it's possible to only bring down one section of the server for maintenance at a time. Other games can do that because they've divided their player-base into sub-shards - they isolated from each other in their sub-shards so what happens there has no impact on other shards.

    That's not what I meant, my fault as it isn't clear in my post. What I meant was say we get it at peak EU time on the next one the down time after that would be during US peak, essentially rotating the time it is done.

    It is as you say a single server/shard for an international player base so it is a tad unfair, even if it is considered the quietest time, for on lot of players to always have the down time at their peak play time.
  • thecosmic1thecosmic1 Member Posts: 9,365 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    i also suspect. which accounts for why the servers go down early in the morning state side and a highly inconvenient time in europe.
    I have to disagree here, somewhat. The servers are back up and it's 4 GMT, 5 BST right now. The vast majority of people in those time zones are either still working or just getting ready to leave work. Yeah, if you're a school kid you've been home for a couple of hours and waiting on the server, but if you're an adult the odds are you're not home from work yet - and Cryptic can't worry about people who work non-standard hours either.

    The time is chosen to be as convenient to everyone as possible.
    STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
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