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Haakona new model, Ha'apax, Ha'nom, Ha'feh

balordezulbalordezul Member Posts: 0 Arc User
edited May 2013 in Tribble - General Discussion and Feedback
Ok I love the new Haakona model, great job! (money set aside for that ship) :P

Ha'apax - still missing the base version on the test server :(

All the other ships have a two part console sets but the Ha'apax only has the Haakona and no refit version to give a second ship and extra console. Can we get a refit version added soon with a tanking focus console as the Ha'apax fleet version is a tank?

Ha'nom, Ha'feh - I like the Ha'fed but I really really hope the Ha'nom is a place holder. I really love the Ha'apax and the D'deridex but the Ha'nom does not say science ship to me. All I see is a slow ship missing the extra part of the ship.

How did I miss this the Dhael got a new model also and a very nice one at that.
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  • virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    I don't understand how the Ha'nom does not say Science Vessel to you.

    The Ha'nom has the RSV BOFF layout.
    The MU Ha'nom has the DSSV BOFF layout.
    The Fleet Ha'nom keeps the RSV BOFF layout.

    Likewise...

    The Ha'nom has the RSV Console layout.
    The MU Ha'nom has the DSSV Console layout.
    The Fleet Ha'nom has the Vesta 3/2/5 Console layout.

    So you've got...

    RSV/RSV
    DSSV/DSSV
    RSV/Vesta

    No, it doesn't turn like a Wells or a Nova...but it's over 20 turn with just a single RCS Mk IV at 15 E-Pwr...35.7 while cloaked.

    As for the Haakona model, yeah - that does look pretty damn spiffy.

    As for the change in Ha'apax ships - yeah, there was the following:

    Ha'apax
    Fleet Ha'apax
    Haaknona
    Fleet Ha'apax Refit

    First two Eng and second two Sci. Still, there was only the single Zen boat as far as Consoles - so never the 2pc bonus that one can get from the Refit/Retrofit Consoles on the others.

    Now we've got...

    Ha'apax
    MU Ha'apax
    Fleet Ha'apax
    Ha'feh
    MU Ha'feh
    Fleet Ha'feh
    Ha'nom
    MU Ha'nom
    Fleet Ha'nom
    Haakona

    The Haakona's kind of interesting with the Cmdr Eng and 2 Eng Consoles...a Lt Sci and 4 Sci Consoles. Yes, there's the LCdr Uni...which opens up options for the 3 Tac Consoles/4 Sci Consoles. It seems a WIP.

    I think there's a reason that we didn't see the Haakona listed on the latest blog...also a reason why it's not part of the Legacy Pack, etc, etc, etc.

    C'mon, it screams 3pack? No...?

    And with that 3pack, they'd do the 3pack set, eh?

    Have to wonder if that's a boat that's sitting there dependent upon how many Leg/Star packs have been sold so far...
  • raptor63549raptor63549 Member Posts: 642 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    virusdancer wrote: »
    The Ha'nom has the RSV Console layout.
    The MU Ha'nom has the DSSV Console layout.
    The Fleet Ha'nom has the Fleet DSSV Console layout.

    Wait, so the Ha'anom has 3 tac consoles but the fleet only has 2?
    Disapointing.
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  • virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    raptor63549 wrote: »
    Wait, so the Ha'anom has 3 tac consoles but the fleet only has 2?
    Disapointing.

    Nah, it's 3/2/5 like the Vesta...was arguing in another thread as well as in chat and goofed that up. I corrected it above. Sorry about that.
  • kwiat007kwiat007 Member Posts: 144 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Haakona looks even worse than the Ha'apax. Ugly x-wing ripoff.
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  • eisenw0lfeisenw0lf Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    The Dhael also received a unique model. It looks a lot better than the originial Dhelan, but to be honest it isn't not exactly difficult to top the ugly space chicken. However the Dhael received a top wing, too. IMO it would look better if it didn't have one.

    Fleet layout of the ship is still superb, but I just can't see me flying such an eyesore.
  • neok182neok182 Member Posts: 551 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    eisenw0lf wrote: »
    The Dhael also received a unique model. It looks a lot better than the originial Dhelan, but to be honest it isn't not exactly difficult to top the ugly space chicken. However the Dhael received a top wing, too. IMO it would look better if it didn't have one.

    Fleet layout of the ship is still superb, but I just can't see me flying such an eyesore.

    Agreed, i was excited to see that but also my first thought was WHAT THE HELL DID YOU DO TO THE CONCEPT ART?

    It has grown on me, but as you said, it would be very nice to have an option to remove the top wing, especially on the dhael.
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  • maxvitormaxvitor Member Posts: 2,213 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    kwiat007 wrote: »
    Haakona looks even worse than the Ha'apax. Ugly x-wing ripoff.
    ^This, I like the new hull style and I'm ok with the smaller ships down-swept wings but I absolutely hate the up-swept wings on the larger ship, I set money aside for a Ha'apax that could separate, but I don't want this so I sure as hell hope we can use the wings from the Ha'apax for this monstrosity.

    How did we get from this apax.jpg to this haakona.jpg
    The main body wings are just up-swept too far.

    On another note The Valdore is still missing some of it's mip maps valdore.jpg The textures only appear normal at a distance or up close.
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  • balordezulbalordezul Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    virusdancer wrote: »
    I don't understand how the Ha'nom does not say Science Vessel to you.

    Oh I'm sorry I was not clear in my comment it was the visuals of the ship not the stats or the layout. I was only going on esthetic design and not stats I did not mean to get you worked up.

    My last post was mainly dealing with design styles and that was my mistake for not making that clear, as I was running out the door to work.

    The current game model used screams cruiser to me not science ship. But that could also be that I was flying the Ha'apax before the server wipe.
  • balordezulbalordezul Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    kwiat007 wrote: »
    Haakona looks even worse than the Ha'apax. Ugly x-wing ripoff.

    I can see Xwing but take a second look at the Haakona. All Romulan ships are birds of prey and I see an owl swooping in with the wind pushing up the wings and the talons extended to attack its prey.

    But I might have a different pov as I work in design and have a trained eye for it. I personally love both of the those models.
  • maxvitormaxvitor Member Posts: 2,213 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    I'll be getting one either way. Overall I like the new skin for the Haakona, I like the pattern on the wings, the shape of the hull those parts of it really look cool, but the orientation of the primary wings is just over the top, a little up-swept sure would be a good look. That said it's a multivector ship so it will be spending most of it's flying time separated, the huge profile won't be apparent in that mode.
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  • virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    The Haakona...wouldn't say it was trying to be x-wing in the least.

    Do a Google Image Search for "hawk talons out"...tada, that's what I see when looking at the Haakona.
  • virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Well, that nixed the 3pack thing...heh.

    http://sto.perfectworld.com/news/?p=886101

    But yeah, they added it to the Legacy Pack (along with those TOS uniforms)...
  • balordezulbalordezul Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    virusdancer wrote: »
    Well, that nixed the 3pack thing...heh.

    http://sto.perfectworld.com/news/?p=886101

    But yeah, they added it to the Legacy Pack (along with those TOS uniforms)...

    Well you are a rock star they saw your post and wanted to add it to the pack. :)

    I know Geko said the flag ship will be coming down the road and that will be the big three pack goodie.
  • burstdragon323burstdragon323 Member Posts: 853 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    balordezul wrote: »
    Oh I'm sorry I was not clear in my comment it was the visuals of the ship not the stats or the layout. I was only going on esthetic design and not stats I did not mean to get you worked up.

    My last post was mainly dealing with design styles and that was my mistake for not making that clear, as I was running out the door to work.

    The current game model used screams cruiser to me not science ship. But that could also be that I was flying the Ha'apax before the server wipe.

    I personally hate the Ha'nom and Ha'feh's looks. I am very angry that cryptic decided to cheapskate us with such a move, spitting up one ship to get two more. I really hope they make it up to us with new models for both ships, but I wouldnt be surprised if hey didnt.
  • virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    balordezul wrote: »
    I know Geko said the flag ship will be coming down the road and that will be the big three pack goodie.

    And that's a fun discussion.

    The Scimitar is a 2379 ship.
    Both the Odyssey and Bortasqu' are 2409 ships.
    So will the Rom flagship be the Scimitar or a new Cryptic design, eh?
  • eisenw0lfeisenw0lf Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    I think they already said they are going to release a Scimitar. If it's going to be the Romulan flagship however remains to be seen. Despite it being a somewhat older design in STO timeline the Scimitar could still fill the role of the flagship as one could say that it was very much ahead of its time when the first prototype was build.
  • colonelchenchuancolonelchenchuan Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    burstdragon323 wrote: »
    I personally hate the Ha'nom and Ha'feh's looks. I am very angry that cryptic decided to cheapskate us with such a move, spitting up one ship to get two more. I really hope they make it up to us with new models for both ships, but I wouldnt be surprised if hey didnt.

    count me in on that. Usually the ship guys do fantastic work. I am proud to fly about any Klingon ship.

    But for me these new ships miss the mark. Bland and chunky.

    They have a "bird" motif but thats about the only real connection to the other designs.

    The Ha'pah is literally the most boring ship in the game. If you lined them all up, it would be my last choice.

    If those designs are now set in stone then I think they need a bit of detail work, lights or something.

    Just dont see how we got from the Mogai, Dhlan and Scimater to these bulky, featureless designs.
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  • virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    eisenw0lf wrote: »
    I think they already said they are going to release a Scimitar. If it's going to be the Romulan flagship however remains to be seen. Despite it being a somewhat older design in STO timeline the Scimitar could still fill the role of the flagship as one could say that it was very much ahead of its time when the first prototype was build.

    The Scimitar is an odd bird - oddly missing from content where one might expect to have seen it. Even with the time travel/prequel stuff - would have expected to have seen it...
  • dontdrunkimshootdontdrunkimshoot Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    virusdancer wrote: »
    Now we've got...

    Ha'apax
    MU Ha'apax
    Fleet Ha'apax
    Ha'feh
    MU Ha'feh
    Fleet Ha'feh
    Ha'nom
    MU Ha'nom
    Fleet Ha'nom
    Haakona

    its impressive to the extent that they have been able to milk that ship model.
    virusdancer wrote: »
    And that's a fun discussion.

    The Scimitar is a 2379 ship.
    Both the Odyssey and Bortasqu' are 2409 ships.
    So will the Rom flagship be the Scimitar or a new Cryptic design, eh?

    we have the d'deridex, ha'apax, and soon scimitar as huge slow ships already, the last thing we need is a flagship thats even larger. give the Haakona the flagship station setup and be done with it.
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  • ulyssessolo16ulyssessolo16 Member Posts: 68 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    You have to also remember that the Scimitar isn't a romulan ship at all, it was built in secret by the remans and shinzon. I think it was most likely a reason that the romulan military sided with shinzon so quickly in Nemesis.
  • archoncrypticarchoncryptic Member, Cryptic Developers Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Quick note: The Haakona's console layout you're seeing in the Beta right now is incorrect.

    It should be 3 Tactical, 4 Engineering, 2 Science.
  • virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    ulyssessolo16 wrote: »
    You have to also remember that the Scimitar isn't a romulan ship at all, it was built in secret by the remans and shinzon. I think it was most likely a reason that the romulan military sided with shinzon so quickly in Nemesis.

    Shinzon was a pawn of the Tal Shiar...

    ;)
  • virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    archoncryptic wrote: »
    Quick note: The Haakona's console layout you're seeing in the Beta right now is incorrect.

    It should be 3 Tactical, 4 Engineering, 2 Science.

    Appreciate that...it was kind of weird looking at that Cmdr Eng with 2 Eng Consoles. :)
  • psycoticvulcanpsycoticvulcan Member Posts: 4,160 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    virusdancer wrote: »
    Shinzon was a pawn of the Tal Shiar...

    ;)

    That would not surprise me at all. :rolleyes:

    If we do get a playable Scimitar, I hope we get a Romulan-looking version as an additional skin option.
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  • reximuzreximuz Member Posts: 1,172 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    virusdancer wrote: »
    And that's a fun discussion.

    The Scimitar is a 2379 ship.
    Both the Odyssey and Bortasqu' are 2409 ships.
    So will the Rom flagship be the Scimitar or a new Cryptic design, eh?

    Dan has already stated that the Scimitar will not be the Romulan flagship. I would guess it will be a carrier. That pretty much leaves new design.
  • raklau1971raklau1971 Member Posts: 43 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    I agree with the OP, this new ship is awesome looking and I know it was just announced but I was wondering if we will see a mirror variant of this ship?
  • colonelchenchuancolonelchenchuan Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    raklau1971 wrote: »
    I agree with the OP, this new ship is awesome looking and I know it was just announced but I was wondering if we will see a mirror variant of this ship?

    actually I am a bit confused now.

    There seem to be two versions of the designs, the Haakona which looks much more Romulan and the bland Haapax set.

    Will there be two models or will the bland ships get the better model and its not updated yet?
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  • toivatoiva Member Posts: 3,276 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    colonelchenchuan wrote: »
    actually I am a bit confused now.

    There seem to be two versions of the designs, the Haakona which looks much more Romulan and the bland Haapax set.

    Will there be two models or will the bland ships get the better model and its not updated yet?

    I'd see it the same way as Dhelan --> Dhael, Mogai --> Valdore, D'Deridex --> D'Ridthau skins.

    The free Ha'Apax comes with the current skin. Purchase of C-Store Haakona unlocks Haakona skin.

    (Same as Vor'cha --> Vor'Kang, Sovereign --> Regent ...)
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    Tae'Va, T'Vaya, To'Var, Tevra, T'Vira, To'Vrak: Give us Asylums for Romulans.

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  • colonelchenchuancolonelchenchuan Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    toiva wrote: »
    I'd see it the same way as Dhelan --> Dhael, Mogai --> Valdore, D'Deridex --> D'Ridthau skins.

    The free Ha'Apax comes with the current skin. Purchase of C-Store Haakona unlocks Haakona skin.

    (Same as Vor'cha --> Vor'Kang, Sovereign --> Regent ...)

    so basically they created a boring design so people would spend $$$
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  • toivatoiva Member Posts: 3,276 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    colonelchenchuan wrote: »
    so basically they created a boring design so people would spend $$$

    That's nothing new.

    Except this time it might work. Normally I like the base look better, this might be one of the exceptions. ;)
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    Tae'Va, T'Vaya, To'Var, Tevra, T'Vira, To'Vrak: Give us Asylums for Romulans.

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