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Elachi story clarification- "Schisms"
azurerail1
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Hi,
I have progressed all of the way to Vengeance and these Elachi aliens seem to reference a star trek TNG episode called "Schisms", correct me if im wrong, But there are things missing about these beings and i feel that it conflicts with another TNG episode "Allegiance" where aliens replace captain picard on the enterprise as an Experiment with a nausican,Bolian Ect?, but i hope you know which Ep's im talking about here?
In "Schisms", the aliens Abduct Crew members and take them to their natural universe in subspace, because they cant exist in ours and live. In that episode the Aliens remove arms and leg's, Turn blood into a liquid polymer Ect and to do this they must create a pocket of our universe in theirs so they can experiment as vice versa would kill them.
In Allegiance, picard is kidnaped by a race that thinks its superior and play's all kinds of experiments. In the end, Picard traps these aliens to give them a taste of captivity.
The Elachi hint at both Episodes from the TNG and i think if these Elachi are one of these Aliens it would be better to clarify the Story so we dont have the error made in "Undine Advance" Where the Geckli is referred in STO as Tinman and Galaxy's Child?
Also if the Elachi are the Beings from "Schisms" please make them make Clicking sounds?:cool: Also the Ambient light in Elachi missions is too Bright and they dont have hoods over their heads?
Anyway, Thought id help by bring this up for consideration and comment
Azurerail1
I have progressed all of the way to Vengeance and these Elachi aliens seem to reference a star trek TNG episode called "Schisms", correct me if im wrong, But there are things missing about these beings and i feel that it conflicts with another TNG episode "Allegiance" where aliens replace captain picard on the enterprise as an Experiment with a nausican,Bolian Ect?, but i hope you know which Ep's im talking about here?
In "Schisms", the aliens Abduct Crew members and take them to their natural universe in subspace, because they cant exist in ours and live. In that episode the Aliens remove arms and leg's, Turn blood into a liquid polymer Ect and to do this they must create a pocket of our universe in theirs so they can experiment as vice versa would kill them.
In Allegiance, picard is kidnaped by a race that thinks its superior and play's all kinds of experiments. In the end, Picard traps these aliens to give them a taste of captivity.
The Elachi hint at both Episodes from the TNG and i think if these Elachi are one of these Aliens it would be better to clarify the Story so we dont have the error made in "Undine Advance" Where the Geckli is referred in STO as Tinman and Galaxy's Child?
Also if the Elachi are the Beings from "Schisms" please make them make Clicking sounds?:cool: Also the Ambient light in Elachi missions is too Bright and they dont have hoods over their heads?
Anyway, Thought id help by bring this up for consideration and comment
Azurerail1
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The definite reference is the Enterprise episode Silent Enemy, however. Similar ship design, obviously the same aliens with similar technology and dress, same method of communication (playing your hail back to you with the words reordered), etc. Any inconsistencies with other aliens are easy enough to pass off, because the Elachi are definitely the Silent Enemy aliens, parallels to other aliens may be coincidental.
the xindi plot was okay, overall, i think - just the whole timetravel thing was waaaaaaay too long and waaaay too much.
Really enjoyed seeing how the tech we all know and love was developed.
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Yes, the two were seperate aliens. But in STO the team definitely linked the two.
In the Installation mission, they definitely make the connection when the prisoners were mentioning the same things that happened in Schisms, like one had an exact experience as Riker in having his arm removed and reattached.
But the Elachi don't look much like the Solanagen lifeforms.
Some of the Elachi, especially the Beta Elachi, bear a close resemblance to the aliens that attacked Archer. So do their ships.
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Enterprise had so much more story left and when rick berman stopped writing was a truly sad day for us Trekkies. Star trek lives on here and if Cryptic are looking into Episode arks, they could continue these storylines in Star trek online and let us play the story's out, It feels like Cryptic are giving this a go and im all for it.
Theres one thing i find funny about elachi Missions?...... Finding a banana split dropped from an Elachi:P . I think Cryptic need to give unique drops in different universes as finding things like Prune juce is quite Earthly LOL
My guess the Elachi will be explained as either some sort of grouping of multiple species, or they have some sort of caste system where the aliens from "Schisms" are the "worker" caste and the "Silent Enemy" ones were the "warriors".
I hope this is true:D. There's definatly some mystery's in the Vacuum (Air) to be anticipated. Perhaps this subspace realm is where all of these aliens come from, including iconians?. The Elachi are sending messages to someone about the Cloning of romulans that seem to be ordering the Elachi to do this work.
It is quite possible that "Elachi" are a group of alien beings like the "Xindi" and Iconians are their Supirors. As said in this, were all agreeing that Elachi may very well be a group force and if so, STO goes past transwarp to blow our minds to M33:eek:
when i saw that specific part i suspected a connection but i dont share the idea, mostly because these ENT aliens can live in our dimension for a prolonged amount of time, these other aliens from TNG can not and appear as just energy. these elachi may hide their base in subspace, probably not to get noticed in the prime universe as to what they are doing, it doesnt mean however that they are subspace beings in any form, and as for the arm cutting, they appear to have no qualms about using aliens for their own purpose, so what better way to learn about this then to cut an arm off.
but then im forgetting the earlier mission on a damaged keldon class ship owned by the true way, that showed a recording of one of these cardassians being taken to these TNG aliens, however again there is no direct connection, it could entirely be coincidental. who is the say that these cardassians were not running tests deep into the subspace bands and wanted to repeat the TNG experiment with the Laforge array, meanwhile the cardassian ship was knocked out by these ENT aliens and wanted some of them to experiment on of their own like they did with orions, gorn, romulans, remans and perhaps humans as well. in that chaos these subspace aliens could of used that to get their own subjects.
Been around since Dec 2010 on STO and bought LTS in Apr 2013 for STO.
Hmm... Omega thingy destroys subspace right? I call on opening a rift then firing some omega molucues through it.
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The Elachi backstory, while inspired by Schisms, are clearly not the same aliens at all. The Elachi are in normal space 200 years before Schisms, in which those aliens are unable to enter normal space at all.
For one they look identical, secondly their ships are identical. Thirdly and most importantly on the Legacy of Romulus website, on the second page of the "New Features" tab, Perfect World themselves refer to them as "The Silent Enemy.
Pretty dam conclusive evidence.
Whether their story team pulled ideas from other episodes and combined them with the "Silent Enemy", which we know almost nothing about from canon episodes, or created their intensions from scratch is something only they can tell us.
because the elachi had no real motivations during the few seconds they were observed on the ENT by archer, it would be easy to design and build an intention on these aliens. i mean they may have simply been curious about the ENT and its crew rather then outright hostile contact and not all motivations can be understood by a human.
Been around since Dec 2010 on STO and bought LTS in Apr 2013 for STO.
Yeah. The Elachi are the silent enemy. It is listed on the "shroomie" aliens page that their non canon name is elachi.
By the way, the Elachi are a really evil, ugly, scary and intimdating villains. I laughed at the borg when I first saw them on tv, they were like the Terminator and Darth Vader's lame cousin.
But the elachi? They are properly wierd, freaky evil aliens. They are the menace the borg can never be, no matter how powerful you make them.
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Side note this is also the first time we see how Beam Overload come about
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Being as TvTropes is like wikipedia but not as strictly monitored I have an issue with that entry. I am going to take it with a HUGE grain of salt.
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