So far this second round of textures looks much improved over the first. The displays are cleaner, but I really wish art and other assets that were supposed to be technical weren't so fuzzy. Overall the game looks far more detailed all the time.
There are some areas of concern, initially I loaded on DS9, and I was pretty upset to see it looked terrible. I went around the galaxy, stopped at the restaurant at the end of the universe for some soup, then went back to DS9. Inside DS9 looks terrible compared to the rest of the game, when you get close to walls things are so blurry and pixelated its terrible. I didn't notice this on other older areas like ESD, but DS9 is exceptionally bad, the blue lights on the structure near the walls is awful, lots of wall textures as you run around are noticeably blotchy.
I'm not exactly sure where the line between GPU and CPU is, that's another question for our graphics programmers. Overall there shouldn't be any more processing power required for our textures. For low end users, they won't ever bother to load 1024, or 2048 textures, and thus, their processing power should be improved fairly significantly.
AFAIK, there shouldn't be any added GPU load whatsoever. What may slow things down is vram bandwidth, so older/slower cards will incur a loading speed penalty when loading higher-res textures (and mipmaps, which IIRC can add something like 30% to the file size of each texture that has them) which I figure will really only TRIBBLE over users that use integrated chipsets with not a lot of processing power, but a ton of (shared, and thus considerably slower) video memory.
Is there a way to decompress textures on the hard drive as they are being installed, for those of us with plenty of space? I would think it would improve performance having the data decompressed ahead of time rather than doing it on the fly as it's being accessed.
This makes no sense whatsoever. Texture compression, as I understand it, isn't so much a case of packing textures into archives to be decompressed on the fly as it is lowering the filesize of the texture by throwing out unnecessary information so that it takes up less memory upon loading (to give an example: textures with blank alpha channels being converted from DXT5/DXT3 to DXT1). Yeah, there might be a small increase in quality resulting from using decompressed textures, but they'll take a lot longer to load (considerably more so for people running SLI/CrossFire setups, as the textures basically have to be mirrored sequentially across all available memory pools) and performance penalties may be incurred if textures have to be swapped out on the fly due to not having enough available vram.
Is there a way to decompress textures on the hard drive as they are being installed, for those of us with plenty of space? I would think it would improve performance having the data decompressed ahead of time rather than doing it on the fly as it's being accessed.
I don't believe so. The performance hit of unpacking these on the fly is negligible. We wouldn't have done it otherwise. It's really not a problem.
Just to note there's still flickering sky file textures in patrol missions, the one I encountered yesterday was in the Eriksson System, Pi Canis Sector Block.
Thanks. Flickering is usually a model error, but we can look into it. Thanks for mentioning where it is too.
You'll have to take up ship LODs with JamJamz. Costumes (and Ships) have a VERY different LOD system than we do on the environment side, and I really don't know much of how it works. Sorry.
More threads with Devs explaining what they do and how things work in the game like this.
That would be cool.
I've done similar explanations before, but really, we don't think about it unless it's something like this giant update. So if there's something you WANT to know about, just ask. If we can tell you without revealing company secrets, we'll usually do so.
So far this second round of textures looks much improved over the first. The displays are cleaner, but I really wish art and other assets that were supposed to be technical weren't so fuzzy. Overall the game looks far more detailed all the time.
There are some areas of concern, initially I loaded on DS9, and I was pretty upset to see it looked terrible. I went around the galaxy, stopped at the restaurant at the end of the universe for some soup, then went back to DS9. Inside DS9 looks terrible compared to the rest of the game, when you get close to walls things are so blurry and pixelated its terrible. I didn't notice this on other older areas like ESD, but DS9 is exceptionally bad, the blue lights on the structure near the walls is awful, lots of wall textures as you run around are noticeably blotchy.
We can take a look at DS9 textures in general. I'm going to be looking at the Quark light mural thing anyway. No guarantees, but if it's that bad, I can fix it.
Yes, that's the geometry normal error that we see on Ships as well. The ships should all be fixed, but environment stuff has to be touched on a case by case basis. Where is this specifically?
Yes, that's the geometry normal error that we see on Ships as well. The ships should all be fixed, but environment stuff has to be touched on a case by case basis. Where is this specifically?
Belfast bridge, engineering level. The bartender and chef just hang out in the middle of a room, its a pretty terrible room.
I'm going to say that from what I've seen so far, the environments look gorgeous. I personally haven't noticed any of the pixelation that some are complaining of but it has to be remembered that some of that can go back to your video card driver and settings and might have nothing at all to do with the game. Some video card "enhancements" can actually make things look worse so it's very much a matter of experimenting with both system and game settings to get the best rendering.
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I've found the Windows version of vim to be pretty good. I haven't used Solaris in ages. Now that Oracle has acquired Sun, I'm not sure how much longer that OS has left.
Ah, yeah, sounds about right. I only ever used Vi on work cvomputers, and it was years ago.
I must, unfortunately, say that my experience with the new textures is very negative. I now very often see mix of low and high res textures. Sometimes my character stands in front of a wall that already has a high quality texture, but after a few seconds it's changed to low quality one, only to be replaced by better one again. Some elements of the scenery, like the big cog-shaped doors on ds9, seam to be especially resistant to high res textures.
A fix to this problem was going into the troubleshooting section of video options and changing the "video memory limit" from auto to +1024.
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http://dtfleet.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/GameClient-2013-05-12-16-47-51-43.jpg
A few here, the gray on the left is pretty bad, the red lighted area is marginally bad, and on the right the brown shapey thing doesn't look bad in this screen, but hit it dead on and its terrible. If it wasn't do distinctive and eye catching you probably wouldn't notice.
There are a lot more, but I guess it depends how much you want to get into it. I went back to Holodeck to compare, most of these textures aren't any better at all, so they stick out compared to the new high quality standard you see everywhere else. Most of these textures are unchanged, but some are even worse, in a few cases, than those on Tribble. The traingular geometry of the station doesn't lend itself well to looking good, all the angles look pixelated. It is probably why the other old places like ESD don't look bad.
There are a lot more, but I guess it depends how much you want to get into it. I went back to Holodeck to compare, most of these textures aren't any better at all, so they stick out compared to the new high quality standard you see everywhere else. Most of these textures are unchanged, but some are even worse, in a few cases, than those on Tribble. The traingular geometry of the station doesn't lend itself well to looking good, all the angles look pixelated. It is probably why the other old places like ESD don't look bad.
This, to me, is the key here. As much as we'd love for everything to look amazing, the fact is some assets (mostly older stuff) aren't that great to begin with. So now, I tell everyone that all of the textures have been altered, and so, even if some of these textures never looked good, people notice them now and rant about how horrible the change is, when the reality is that it may be "different" but it's not better or worse than it used to be, people are just paying more attention to them than they usually do.
I will certainly look into unsharpening some of these textures, but I think even if we reverted all of DS9 back to it's old textures, they still wouldn't look as good as much of the stuff we're making now for Legacy of Romulus.
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Well, thats the point Taco.
You improved half the textures in DS9, but the other half are the same (some slightly worse) but when you put the two side by side the ones that weren't so good before stand out as terribad.
Although I know it would be costly and time consuming, I'd absolutely love brand new versions of ESD, SB 39, DS9 and all of the rest of the social zones. They get stale after awhile. The new Drozana is awesome as are the Romulan areas. And while I'm at it, I'd love to wish for versions that are more immersive and much closer to canon! A lot of them feel like candy stores now-a-days...
Overall, 99% of the textures I've come across have been a real improvement, but there are some of the standing "blah" textures that don't seem to do as well from the new improvements, and it makes them stand out that much more.
Planet textures seem to fall into this more than anything else in my opinion. Earth looks horribly pixelated now, and honestly, it looked horrible before this update. I would say that if there's one planet that deserved some better textures it'd be Earth.
Otherwise, the "crisp-ness" of all the newer textures is awesome and it really makes the game more immersive overall.
(I haven't been to DS9 since the update though, so I can't really comment on that).
spaceMip Reversal
Mip Reversal is basically what it sounds like. We flip the order that they were stored in. Previously, when a texture tried to stream in, it would try to load the whole thing, and then it would drop down through the chain, to the appropriate Mip. That seemed silly, so we flip it, and now, when you run around, it starts with the smallest mip, and works it's way up through the chain to the right level.
I'm curious. Is this as much a solution for the crashing-on-load upon transporting down to New Romulus?
is there a reason there is taco graphity some places? i've only actually seen 1 so far but wouldn't be surprised if more out there. ya set up some kinda easter egg hunt with a prize or something? just wondering.
I was disappointed to see that the graphics look like a cartoon. The graphics in the current game are so much better in general. I maxed out all the settings in the video settings of game and my graphics card. No joy.
I thank all the people who have already commented and provided screen shots.
I appreciate what Taco has written but I do not agree with him that the graphics are the same or better then in the current game. That isn't the case.
I hope the graphics issue is resolved before May 21.
This, to me, is the key here. As much as we'd love for everything to look amazing, the fact is some assets (mostly older stuff) aren't that great to begin with. So now, I tell everyone that all of the textures have been altered, and so, even if some of these textures never looked good, people notice them now and rant about how horrible the change is, when the reality is that it may be "different" but it's not better or worse than it used to be, people are just paying more attention to them than they usually do.
I will certainly look into unsharpening some of these textures, but I think even if we reverted all of DS9 back to it's old textures, they still wouldn't look as good as much of the stuff we're making now for Legacy of Romulus.
Thanks for the info though.
yes I agree with part of that. There are some textures that textures on live arent very good and made more evident with the changes.
But there are other things that arent so good now.
Aside from quality, my biggest issue is that textures seem to "pop" in. Its a noticable change. Blurry, pixaleted mess. BAM! slightly better graphic. Turn a couple of degrees or mover a a foot forward or back BAM! new texture. Its not smooth or what you might see when moving closer or farther to an object. A new texture just noticabbly loads.
I have also found that settings in the Video options dont seem to do much of anything.
My quality scale is stuck at certain point and cant be moved higher. Changing any of the sliders higher than 100% doesnt look like it does much of anything. Feels like there is a pre set and we no actual control.
Also this technically isnt a Texture issue but I have also noticed that there seems to be more blown out graphics. Yall had fixed many of these lighting issues at one point and it only occured in certain circumstances. But with the new graphics I seem to notice more spots that are just overly bright blobs from mysterious light sources. As an example, I havent done it in forever on live so it might be there too but when you are on Drozana station in the past, there is a spot in the engine room that is just a big blinding white blob. Move a couple of feet to the side and it goes away, Move a couple of feet and its supernova brightness again.
is there a reason there is taco graphity some places? i've only actually seen 1 so far but wouldn't be surprised if more out there. ya set up some kinda easter egg hunt with a prize or something? just wondering.
I suspect that the dev known as "Tacofangs" may have more info.
is there a reason there is taco graphity some places? i've only actually seen 1 so far but wouldn't be surprised if more out there. ya set up some kinda easter egg hunt with a prize or something? just wondering.
ha ha, I was wondering when someone would find one of these.
http://dtfleet.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/GameClient-2013-05-12-16-47-51-43.jpg
A few here, the gray on the left is pretty bad, the red lighted area is marginally bad, and on the right the brown shapey thing doesn't look bad in this screen, but hit it dead on and its terrible. If it wasn't do distinctive and eye catching you probably wouldn't notice.
There are a lot more, but I guess it depends how much you want to get into it. I went back to Holodeck to compare, most of these textures aren't any better at all, so they stick out compared to the new high quality standard you see everywhere else. Most of these textures are unchanged, but some are even worse, in a few cases, than those on Tribble. The traingular geometry of the station doesn't lend itself well to looking good, all the angles look pixelated. It is probably why the other old places like ESD don't look bad.
DS9 has always looked this bad. It has some of the worst textures in the game. Even ESD looks better. And it looks worse each time a new up-to-date social zone is released. Bajor, Qo'nos, Romulan fleet, fleet embassy and starbase, they all have nice textures and respectable scaling with good attention to detail.
I hope they can find the time to update the DS9 textures, and if possible, the whole interior so it doesn't look like it's big enough for a herd of dinosaurs to freely run through the promenade. ESD interior needs another update too. It's also full of outdated textures and holes in the floor that lets you see into space. They're the two most popular social zones and should be brought up to standard.
Did New Romulous ground Zone for lvl 50 get an update to textures?
it seems to be using alot of memory.
just beaming into the staging area from orbit...
could, if you have time update it /or optimize it. or see if it's working as intended.
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I don't know but you may have done too good of a job... now you might just have to go through the rest of the game and redo all the assets, to make them look as good as the new "stuff"
Wrong. While DS9 has some low-grade textures, it is NOT the same as on live, they are worse. I posted several before/after shots myself from various places in the game. Since it seems Taco didn't see that post, I'll repost them here.
http://img801.imageshack.us/img801/6236/comp10o.jpg
Most people wouldn't even see this unless they really looked, but on the highlighted area you can see that the new one is just not as smooth as the original.
No, I saw the other thread, and some of those have already been unsharpened.
However, many of your cited examples I really believe you have to be going out of your way to find, and that the average person running through the game won't notice. Some of them, I can't even tell what you're pointing to when the images are side by side. These types of textures will not be getting unsharpened.
No, I saw the other thread, and some of those have already been unsharpened.
However, many of your cited examples I really believe you have to be going out of your way to find, and that the average person running through the game won't notice. Some of them, I can't even tell what you're pointing to when the images are side by side. These types of textures will not be getting unsharpened.
You are correct the average person would be too busy saying waffles are more OP than pancakes.
No, I saw the other thread, and some of those have already been unsharpened.
However, many of your cited examples I really believe you have to be going out of your way to find, and that the average person running through the game won't notice. Some of them, I can't even tell what you're pointing to when the images are side by side. These types of textures will not be getting unsharpened.
I think the main point here, is that DS9 is in dire need of updated (higher quality) textures.
The screenshots below were taken on May 13, 2013, after the patch to Tribble.
1. The winter jacket looks slightly worse after the texture changes. The difference is most noticeable on the lower edge of the lapel and the second buckle from the top on the left (right-hand side of the character).
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Epic explanation Taco.. epic taco is epic!
There are some areas of concern, initially I loaded on DS9, and I was pretty upset to see it looked terrible. I went around the galaxy, stopped at the restaurant at the end of the universe for some soup, then went back to DS9. Inside DS9 looks terrible compared to the rest of the game, when you get close to walls things are so blurry and pixelated its terrible. I didn't notice this on other older areas like ESD, but DS9 is exceptionally bad, the blue lights on the structure near the walls is awful, lots of wall textures as you run around are noticeably blotchy.
Also is this http://dtfleet.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/GameClient-2013-05-11-23-27-50-97.jpg one of those geometry problems? Because its flat, which would seem hard to TRIBBLE up...
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AFAIK, there shouldn't be any added GPU load whatsoever. What may slow things down is vram bandwidth, so older/slower cards will incur a loading speed penalty when loading higher-res textures (and mipmaps, which IIRC can add something like 30% to the file size of each texture that has them) which I figure will really only TRIBBLE over users that use integrated chipsets with not a lot of processing power, but a ton of (shared, and thus considerably slower) video memory.
This makes no sense whatsoever. Texture compression, as I understand it, isn't so much a case of packing textures into archives to be decompressed on the fly as it is lowering the filesize of the texture by throwing out unnecessary information so that it takes up less memory upon loading (to give an example: textures with blank alpha channels being converted from DXT5/DXT3 to DXT1). Yeah, there might be a small increase in quality resulting from using decompressed textures, but they'll take a lot longer to load (considerably more so for people running SLI/CrossFire setups, as the textures basically have to be mirrored sequentially across all available memory pools) and performance penalties may be incurred if textures have to be swapped out on the fly due to not having enough available vram.
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I don't believe so. The performance hit of unpacking these on the fly is negligible. We wouldn't have done it otherwise. It's really not a problem.
Thanks. Flickering is usually a model error, but we can look into it. Thanks for mentioning where it is too.
You'll have to take up ship LODs with JamJamz. Costumes (and Ships) have a VERY different LOD system than we do on the environment side, and I really don't know much of how it works. Sorry.
I've done similar explanations before, but really, we don't think about it unless it's something like this giant update. So if there's something you WANT to know about, just ask. If we can tell you without revealing company secrets, we'll usually do so.
We can take a look at DS9 textures in general. I'm going to be looking at the Quark light mural thing anyway. No guarantees, but if it's that bad, I can fix it.
Yes, that's the geometry normal error that we see on Ships as well. The ships should all be fixed, but environment stuff has to be touched on a case by case basis. Where is this specifically?
Belfast bridge, engineering level. The bartender and chef just hang out in the middle of a room, its a pretty terrible room.
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A fix to this problem was going into the troubleshooting section of video options and changing the "video memory limit" from auto to +1024.
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The issue with DS9 is so many things are repeatitive, and one really out of place texture is constantly being shown 30x or more over the ring.
http://dtfleet.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/GameClient-2013-05-12-16-44-48-88.jpg
This is the first I noticed, you can see how crisp the floor is, and everything else, but that blue lighted structure is blotchy from up close and from across the hall.
http://dtfleet.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/GameClient-2013-05-12-16-46-28-42.jpg
Not the worst offender, but not smooth at all.
http://dtfleet.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/GameClient-2013-05-12-16-47-51-43.jpg
A few here, the gray on the left is pretty bad, the red lighted area is marginally bad, and on the right the brown shapey thing doesn't look bad in this screen, but hit it dead on and its terrible. If it wasn't do distinctive and eye catching you probably wouldn't notice.
http://dtfleet.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/GameClient-2013-05-12-16-51-35-27.jpg
Another bad panel
http://dtfleet.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/GameClient-2013-05-12-16-53-32-08.jpg
Quark's mural, oddly not nearly as bad as the other stuff around
http://dtfleet.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/GameClient-2013-05-12-16-53-59-02.jpg
Just yuck, you run by these constantly
http://dtfleet.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/GameClient-2013-05-12-16-54-44-85.jpg
On the left side, pretty nasty, used dozens of time in a view too.
http://dtfleet.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/GameClient-2013-05-12-16-55-00-80.jpg
The left containers are pretty ugly
There are a lot more, but I guess it depends how much you want to get into it. I went back to Holodeck to compare, most of these textures aren't any better at all, so they stick out compared to the new high quality standard you see everywhere else. Most of these textures are unchanged, but some are even worse, in a few cases, than those on Tribble. The traingular geometry of the station doesn't lend itself well to looking good, all the angles look pixelated. It is probably why the other old places like ESD don't look bad.
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This, to me, is the key here. As much as we'd love for everything to look amazing, the fact is some assets (mostly older stuff) aren't that great to begin with. So now, I tell everyone that all of the textures have been altered, and so, even if some of these textures never looked good, people notice them now and rant about how horrible the change is, when the reality is that it may be "different" but it's not better or worse than it used to be, people are just paying more attention to them than they usually do.
I will certainly look into unsharpening some of these textures, but I think even if we reverted all of DS9 back to it's old textures, they still wouldn't look as good as much of the stuff we're making now for Legacy of Romulus.
Thanks for the info though.
This is from the Khitomer building in "Turning Point".
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You improved half the textures in DS9, but the other half are the same (some slightly worse) but when you put the two side by side the ones that weren't so good before stand out as terribad.
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Planet textures seem to fall into this more than anything else in my opinion. Earth looks horribly pixelated now, and honestly, it looked horrible before this update. I would say that if there's one planet that deserved some better textures it'd be Earth.
Otherwise, the "crisp-ness" of all the newer textures is awesome and it really makes the game more immersive overall.
(I haven't been to DS9 since the update though, so I can't really comment on that).
Hmm, i will be trying this out for improvements on my Radeon 7850 with 2gb.
I'm curious. Is this as much a solution for the crashing-on-load upon transporting down to New Romulus?
Seems more like you're running out of vid memory dude. lol
I thank all the people who have already commented and provided screen shots.
I appreciate what Taco has written but I do not agree with him that the graphics are the same or better then in the current game. That isn't the case.
I hope the graphics issue is resolved before May 21.
MJ
yes I agree with part of that. There are some textures that textures on live arent very good and made more evident with the changes.
But there are other things that arent so good now.
Aside from quality, my biggest issue is that textures seem to "pop" in. Its a noticable change. Blurry, pixaleted mess. BAM! slightly better graphic. Turn a couple of degrees or mover a a foot forward or back BAM! new texture. Its not smooth or what you might see when moving closer or farther to an object. A new texture just noticabbly loads.
I have also found that settings in the Video options dont seem to do much of anything.
My quality scale is stuck at certain point and cant be moved higher. Changing any of the sliders higher than 100% doesnt look like it does much of anything. Feels like there is a pre set and we no actual control.
Also this technically isnt a Texture issue but I have also noticed that there seems to be more blown out graphics. Yall had fixed many of these lighting issues at one point and it only occured in certain circumstances. But with the new graphics I seem to notice more spots that are just overly bright blobs from mysterious light sources. As an example, I havent done it in forever on live so it might be there too but when you are on Drozana station in the past, there is a spot in the engine room that is just a big blinding white blob. Move a couple of feet to the side and it goes away, Move a couple of feet and its supernova brightness again.
No problem, just ran into another one in the Dimorus System, Iota Pavonis Sector Block.
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ha ha, I was wondering when someone would find one of these.
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DS9 has always looked this bad. It has some of the worst textures in the game. Even ESD looks better. And it looks worse each time a new up-to-date social zone is released. Bajor, Qo'nos, Romulan fleet, fleet embassy and starbase, they all have nice textures and respectable scaling with good attention to detail.
I hope they can find the time to update the DS9 textures, and if possible, the whole interior so it doesn't look like it's big enough for a herd of dinosaurs to freely run through the promenade. ESD interior needs another update too. It's also full of outdated textures and holes in the floor that lets you see into space. They're the two most popular social zones and should be brought up to standard.
it seems to be using alot of memory.
just beaming into the staging area from orbit...
could, if you have time update it /or optimize it. or see if it's working as intended.
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I don't know but you may have done too good of a job... now you might just have to go through the rest of the game and redo all the assets, to make them look as good as the new "stuff"
Wrong. While DS9 has some low-grade textures, it is NOT the same as on live, they are worse. I posted several before/after shots myself from various places in the game. Since it seems Taco didn't see that post, I'll repost them here.
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http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/2486/comp1s.jpg
You can see the texture in the silver structure is degraded.
http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/9963/comp4m.jpg
There isn't much of a noticeable difference here, but you can see in some places that the textures were sharpened.
http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/5330/comp7.jpg
The paintings got messed up.
http://img826.imageshack.us/img826/691/comp8.jpg
This was in the medical section of ESD.
http://img856.imageshack.us/img856/3637/comp9r.jpg
Again in medical on ESD. The original had some artifacts to begin with, but the update made it all sorts of worse.
http://img801.imageshack.us/img801/6236/comp10o.jpg
Most people wouldn't even see this unless they really looked, but on the highlighted area you can see that the new one is just not as smooth as the original.
http://img607.imageshack.us/img607/985/comp11r.jpg
These are probably the same textures used above, but in another area.
DS9
http://imageshack.us/a/img692/6246/comp12.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img42/6403/comp13.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img29/5976/comp14q.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img40/1183/comp15l.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img526/3604/comp16.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img835/5677/comp17.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img708/9553/comp18.jpg
The iconic Quark's light/mural thing got hit. -_-
First City
http://imageshack.us/a/img267/1941/comp19.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img9/1282/comp20.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img405/9085/comp21.jpg
However, many of your cited examples I really believe you have to be going out of your way to find, and that the average person running through the game won't notice. Some of them, I can't even tell what you're pointing to when the images are side by side. These types of textures will not be getting unsharpened.
You are correct the average person would be too busy saying waffles are more OP than pancakes.
I think the main point here, is that DS9 is in dire need of updated (higher quality) textures.
1. The winter jacket looks slightly worse after the texture changes. The difference is most noticeable on the lower edge of the lapel and the second buckle from the top on the left (right-hand side of the character).
Holodeck:
http://i.imgur.com/rmxrgQq.png
Tribble:
http://i.imgur.com/8ts43p1.png
2. The Romulan shuttle on New Romulus looks slightly worse after the texture changes.
Holodeck (Lighting quality: Low)
http://i.imgur.com/PVtmokG.jpg
Tribble (Lighting quality: Low)
http://i.imgur.com/cC6kSKq.jpg
Holodeck (Lighting quality: High)
http://i.imgur.com/fe2dL5R.jpg
Tribble (Lighting quality: High)
http://i.imgur.com/w15KX9Z.jpg
I usually run with low graphics settings. The specifics are provided in the following tickets:
ticket ID #41,044
ticket ID #41,091