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God job Cryptic

svimepelsensvimepelsen Member Posts: 28 Arc User
edited May 2013 in PvP Gameplay
Almost all we see in the forums these days are people complaining - yes there is alot to complain about, but there is also things to be happy about and give credit for. I have played sto since beta and I can garantee that if it wasn't for a fun pvp experience in this game, me and pretty much all of my ingame friends would have stopped playing sto along time ago (and stopped paying).

So all in all I would like to congratulate Cryptic on a fun pvp experience and a good job. That beiing said - you still have alot that needs to be done to pvp, but I'm sure that if you guys focus on what makes the current (and past) pvp experience good and dedicate ressourses towards giving pvp some much needed love - I believe you guys will be able to silence the crying in the forums.

(sry about bad english grammar)
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  • maicake716maicake716 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    svimepelsen wrote: »
    Almost all we see in the forums these days are people complaining - yes there is alot to complain about, but there is also things to be happy about and give credit for. I have played sto since beta and I can garantee that if it wasn't for a fun pvp experience in this game, me and pretty much all of my ingame friends would have stopped playing sto along time ago (and stopped paying).

    So all in all I would like to congratulate Cryptic on a fun pvp experience and a good job. That beiing said - you still have alot that needs to be done to pvp, but I'm sure that if you guys focus on what makes the current (and past) pvp experience good and dedicate ressourses towards giving pvp some much needed love - I believe you guys will be able to silence the crying in the forums.

    (sry about bad english grammar)

    you must be new around here.

    most of the bad feelings is from the YEARS of negelect and broken promises. Give it time, you'll be as bitter as the rest of us :)

    enjoy pvp while you can.
    mancom wrote: »
    Frankly, I think the only sound advice that one can give new players at this time is to stay away from PVP in STO.
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  • dalnar83dalnar83 Member Posts: 2,420 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    I guess the PvP development could be described as following:

    "who doesn't do anything does not break anything"
    "Cryptic Studio’s Jack Emmert (2010): Microtransactions are the biggest bunch of nonsense. I like paying one fee and not worrying about it – like my cellphone. The world’s biggest MMO isn’t item based, even though the black market item GDP is bigger than Russia … microtransactions make me want to die.”
  • kinetic78kinetic78 Member Posts: 90 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    If it ain't broke don't fix it !!!!

    Maybe 1 day
  • afree100afree100 Member Posts: 332 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    I agree, however people come to the forums to complain about something they don't like, if they are enjoying the game they don't really come here unless its to pick up new tips or to check on patch notes (why I am here). :)

    But I +1 (no I don't use google social networking site thing, its just quick and easy to write it like that) the Good Job Cryptic statement, they have done a great job outside of PvP and STO PvP really is still awesome if you pair and fight a good team that dosen't use cheesy stuff.
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  • svimepelsensvimepelsen Member Posts: 28 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Yes yes - laugh of me all you want, but if you are a veteran sto pvp'er you'l know what I'm talking about (give it some time it will come to you :P). Yes the pvp has alot of flaws - broken mechanics/boffs and yes we have been neglected (mostly) from day one and none of the promises ever came trough (mostly).

    If you are still not convinced. Ask yourself this question If sto didn't have pvp would you still be playing activly? if yes then good for you, if no - then you just realised my point.

    So good job to cryptic for what they have done rigth with pvp, but a reminder that we are getting tired of broken stuff and empty promises.
  • dant158#3249 dant158
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    edited May 2013
    svimepelsen wrote: »
    a fun pvp experience
    svimepelsen wrote: »
    Yes the pvp has alot of flaws - broken mechanics/boffs and yes we have been neglected from day one and none of the promises ever came trough.
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  • maicake716maicake716 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    dalnar83 wrote: »
    I guess the PvP development could be described as following:

    "who doesn't do anything does not break anything"

    except cryptic. they tend to do all the breaky things with non of the attempted added content for pvp.
    mancom wrote: »
    Frankly, I think the only sound advice that one can give new players at this time is to stay away from PVP in STO.
    Science pvp at its best-http://www.youtube.com/user/matteo716
    Do you even Science Bro?
  • dalnar83dalnar83 Member Posts: 2,420 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Well I meant more pvp exclusive stuff...you know, the stuff that does not yet exist :D and will come in season 5, oh wait 7, or was it 8 ? now I do not remember the exact season they said it, maybe it was 25 ?
    "Cryptic Studio’s Jack Emmert (2010): Microtransactions are the biggest bunch of nonsense. I like paying one fee and not worrying about it – like my cellphone. The world’s biggest MMO isn’t item based, even though the black market item GDP is bigger than Russia … microtransactions make me want to die.”
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  • kinetic78kinetic78 Member Posts: 90 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Cryptic will only ever do anything if the player base is there,

    It's all about making the wonga
  • cha0s1428cha0s1428 Member Posts: 416 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    kinetic78 wrote: »
    Cryptic will only ever do anything if the player base is there,

    It's all about making the wonga

    Which is a massive catch 22. There would be a bigger playerbase there if they did anything to improve pvp

    Sad really
  • maicake716maicake716 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    kinetic78 wrote: »
    Cryptic will only ever do anything if the player base is there,

    It's all about making the wonga

    i call bs.

    thats the "excuse" theyve given us before but its also THEIR fault the pvp player base is so low.

    thats like offering a hungry kid a bag of empty cheetos and telling him he should have taken his time in eating them.


    they need to endorse pvp, they need to hold pvp events (not just shuttle wars) they need to make things FOR pvp, not just consider it half-assed after the fact when they release something "cool" for pve....


    but they wont. history is constantly repeating itself with this game and pvp. i look forward to the next broken gimmik introduced to this game (ie the romulans and all their BS)
    mancom wrote: »
    Frankly, I think the only sound advice that one can give new players at this time is to stay away from PVP in STO.
    Science pvp at its best-http://www.youtube.com/user/matteo716
    Do you even Science Bro?
  • aquitaine985aquitaine985 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    maicake716 wrote: »
    you must be new around here.

    most of the bad feelings is from the YEARS of negelect and broken promises. Give it time, you'll be as bitter as the rest of us :)

    enjoy pvp while you can.

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  • pulserazorpulserazor Member Posts: 590 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Where is the money in fixing pvp?

    A very small minority of people playing STO dare into PVP content, so polishing that system under Cryptic philosophy will not generate revenue. Nevermind their 'if you build it they will come' philosophy they spew during Neverwinter interviews, fixing pvp and making it awesome will not encourage people to spend more money.
  • maicake716maicake716 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    pulserazor wrote: »
    Where is the money in fixing pvp?

    A very small minority of people playing STO dare into PVP content, so polishing that system under Cryptic philosophy will not generate revenue. Nevermind their 'if you build it they will come' philosophy they spew during Neverwinter interviews, fixing pvp and making it awesome will not encourage people to spend more money.

    i actually think thats not true.


    they could easily monetize pvp if they wanted to.

    theyve monetized everything else.
    mancom wrote: »
    Frankly, I think the only sound advice that one can give new players at this time is to stay away from PVP in STO.
    Science pvp at its best-http://www.youtube.com/user/matteo716
    Do you even Science Bro?
  • p2wsucksp2wsucks Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    I'm pretty sure religious posts aren't allowed. Divine isn't an adjective I'd use to describe cryptic either. :P
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  • omgrandalthoromgrandalthor Member Posts: 364 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    only time you have any fun any more is messing arround in karrat if getting ganked see how long you can live and try to take a few with you if no gank happening change instance tell gank occurs!

    Another is when you do a fleet vs fleet premade with a dam rule book the size of obamacare!
  • devorasxdevorasx Member Posts: 693
    edited May 2013
    OP must be new here, cause Gecko hasnt done much....yet.
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  • scurry5scurry5 Member Posts: 1,554 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    pulserazor wrote: »
    Where is the money in fixing pvp?

    A very small minority of people playing STO dare into PVP content, so polishing that system under Cryptic philosophy will not generate revenue. Nevermind their 'if you build it they will come' philosophy they spew during Neverwinter interviews, fixing pvp and making it awesome will not encourage people to spend more money.

    It's a vicious cycle. Because there is no development, fewer people enter PvP. Because of that, PvP development profitability drops. Because of that, development is cut back even further. And so the cycle goes down and down.....
  • darkfader1988darkfader1988 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    svimepelsen wrote: »
    Almost all we see in the forums these days are people complaining - yes there is alot to complain about, but there is also things to be happy about and give credit for. I have played sto since beta and I can garantee that if it wasn't for a fun pvp experience in this game, me and pretty much all of my ingame friends would have stopped playing sto along time ago (and stopped paying).

    So all in all I would like to congratulate Cryptic on a fun pvp experience and a good job. That beiing said - you still have alot that needs to be done to pvp, but I'm sure that if you guys focus on what makes the current (and past) pvp experience good and dedicate ressourses towards giving pvp some much needed love - I believe you guys will be able to silence the crying in the forums.

    (sry about bad english grammar)

    "alot to be done?" Really?

    There hasnt anything been done directly related to PvP in 3 years.
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  • dnaangel9dnaangel9 Member Posts: 111 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    PvP in its own right isnt broken, certain game mechanics are.

    The problem with PvP is there is no incentive to do so. The ones like me that do, is because we enjoy a real challenge (unlike almost all STO PvE).

    Give more incentive to PvP, and I can guarantee you the amount of players that will partake in PvP will dramatically increase.

    -PvP Rep System
    -PvP Drops/Gear
    -PvP Leaderboards
    -Custom/New PvP maps
    -Custom PvP Ques (1v1,2v2 etc)

    the list goes on and on.

    How many more Seasons need to pass where we were promised PvP revamp but gets bump to the "Next" season,and then again to the next. What happened to the major overhaul that was supposed to happen in Season 6? Now with new rommy race, the PvP revamp, level 60 cap and mk 13/14 gear not scheduled to Season 9..which Im sure will be bumped to 10 and so forth.
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