Came first In Crysteline Enity with Galaxy retrofit

sceptimus1 · April 2013

So I've been using my Vesta ( Aventine Tactical Variant and loving it I might add.

But I always come about 2nd or 3rd place in that fleet action with my Aventine, I have it set up as Full aux cannons IE Aux dps setup.

I got this crazy thought to try out my moth balled galaxy Retrofit, so I pulled it out of space dock loaded as a beam boat with a quantum in the front and a Tricobalt in the back the rest all dual beams in front and single beams on the back.

Only two tact abilities Beam Overload and High yield Torpedo.

So yea I Came first in the fleet action, i'm not sure if its based on dps but I couldn't believe it. (I joking said to myself I will make a touph galaxy class when I was fitting it out lol)

Just thought id share this weird experience as I know the Galaxy Retrofit is pretty much as weak as a Teir 5 ship gets.

corbinwolf · April 2013

Congrats on coming in 1st.

Your the third captain that I have read about to do so with this ship!

That being said, I have seen a few Dreadnoughts and retrofits do well even in PVP. One in particular is just vicious in Ker'rat. You can check some of the videos on YouTube for further inspiration

elandarksky · April 2013

While DPS plays a factor, other factors like destroying tholians/fragments/any heals you use on other people and yourself all factor into who wins

For the CE event atleast ^^

sceptimus1 · April 2013

Yea I was pretty impressed with myself to be honest, I still cant believe it.

This experience makes me want to trade my Vesta in for say an Tactical Oddessy or a much tougher cruiser.

not sure..........

neo1nx · April 2013

i got 1st twice with my gal x, so no big deal, the reason behind this i think is that some player don't master their escort, there is also some instance where you only play with cruiser and some are not build for dps

badname834854 · April 2013

The thing is, we really don't know *what* exactly is counted towards the score outside of DPS for this event. There is anecdotal evidence that healing gives good points, but there is no evidence/documentation that any additional consideration is given to killing shards/Tholians outside of the DPS applied.

Given that the legacy Fleet actions are pretty much ENTIRELY have their scores based on DPS/damage (BtP,SB24, Gorn Invasion, Big Dig, etc) and Cryptic's proven record at being kings of the copypasta, it follows that CE would be no different.

As for the OP - congrats! You are at a disadvantage in that ship, sadly. Perhaps you had crappy teammates? :P

telbasta7386 · April 2013

I've only come in first once with my tactical escort (heavy escort carrier), but I get first about 90% of the time with my engineer atrox carrier.

quintaris · April 2013

I also came in first yesterday in a Gal-R. It was mostly a test to see if I could.

I was healing my team constantly. Every time I saw someone's shields start to go down I'd slip them a TT, or a TSS2, or an ES. If I saw their hull start to drop, I'd give them an A2SIF, an HE, or an ET.

Different from my usual escort play, but actually quite fun.

neos472 · April 2013

the CE event favors healing ships like the Galaxy R and Ambassador R i fought CE in a Fleet Defiant and did not even place and that thing can bruise things badly but my Ambassador R on another char has bare minimum DPS unless i boost the systems but i get consistent 1st place by just healing things and firing on the CE so this event is different its good to have DPS but it is not the king in this mission healing is.

reginamala78 · April 2013

Actually over 140 CE runs over 10 types of captain and ship combinations, I think the Mirror Vo'Quv might actually be the best ship for the mission, better than even the Recluse or Kar'fi. Load it with 4 beam arrays, the KCB, and a Hargh'peng (yes really), pop FAW once per Tholian wave to ensure you get points for 'helping' to kill them, and otherwise focus on the CE. With a Gravity Well, the 'Peng damages not only the CE but also any shards you snare when it explodes, the extra engineering stations let you heal your teammates just shy of being a full cruiser, and your BoPs have both THY and the durability to survive in a FAW-rich environment. Its funny how things can work out to make 'lesser' ships shine sometimes.

sollvax · April 2013

I am not surprised its probably the best multi mission ship in the game regardless of what escort jocks say (meaning it can do pretty much Any job and cope)

Say it loud "I fly a Galaxy and im proud"

Actually of course I only fly galaxys on about half my fed alts the others being the wrong level or being vulcan

graleron · April 2013

Of the three ships I've run it in -- Tac Odyssey, Chimera, and Atrox -- it's the carrier that comes in first most consistently, and it's the least-well geared of the three.

byzanathos · April 2013

I came first in CE 8 days in a row using the Support Cruiser Retrofit

pwecangetlost · April 2013

My poorly geared klink has got my a whole host of firsts, my main has not been so lucky. I only want the trophy.

psycovenom · May 2013

pwecangetlost wrote: »

My poorly geared klink has got my a whole host of firsts, my main has not been so lucky. I only want the trophy.

ditto my terribly geared klingon ship came in 1st before due to being with a pile of people who were worst. I think it took us 20-30 mins to drop the crystal...
By terribly geared I mean Mk X rare weapons I got for like 10k EC a pop, and cheap consoles I got for similar With 1 tac Boff with terrible skills that don't even help the weapons much like beam fire at will with only 1 beam weapon

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gpgtx · May 2013

oddly the only ship i have used to not come in first was the defiant retrofit lol

the ones that did was the gal-r, gal-x, fleet ambassador, freedyssey, and mirror Vo'quv

burstorion · May 2013

My near constant first/second placer is the fleet norgh/ning'tao - xi common quantum consoles and torps, xi common quantum mines in a spread3/spread2 aux2bat build with dual epts and a tss3 (plus hes and heals out the wazoo)

Considering its my pvp build with kinetic skills instead of energy, its remarkably good at sustained attacking and tossing heals on occasion - although I learnt to rapidly evasive to 11km when absorption hits 50% progression is a must

Beyond my norgh, I've first placed in a d'kora (atb kinetic build), fleet advanced sci vessel (normal kinetic type build with sci based heals), mirror voquv (rainbow turret/kinetic dual apbeta spammer trollboat), kamarag (kinetic atb with grav well Kamarag was fun), and mirror patrol (energy build tholian centric basher)

In the end success in ce is all about the build..and willingness to modify your build to kinetic destruction

p52smith · May 2013

During the event I rebuilt my T5 Intrepid into a healing oriented ship.
Since I did that, I came in 1st for each run of the CE I did, all I was doing was healing and dropping tricobalt mines randomly. If things got slow on the healing front I shot the odd tricobalt torpedo at the CE, but that was about it.

I've also found myself getting tied up dealing with the Tholians that spawn when the CE goes into absorption mode. If nobody else comes over to help I can actually be finishing off the wave as the next lot spawn. As far as I can tell, this seems to have hindered my score against the CE compared to ignoring the Tholians and just waiting for the CE to return to normal. Either the Tholians don't give points, or they give very few compared to the effort of 1 player taking them out

doffingcomrade · May 2013

Don't feel too proud of having gotten first in a ship that isn't exactly spectacular...I've gotten first...once...in a Miranda. It's just a matter of lobbing enough torpedoes.

sollvax · May 2013

my two first places were in my Galaxy R and My Klingon carrier

mal00 · May 2013

I have managed to get first almost every time (got 2nd place once but that was after i did an STF and forgot to replace my borg doff with the flight deck doff didn't change target when it was absorbing energy) for the last 2 weeks on my jemmy dreadnaught, even before that i was still placing first 2 out of 3 times, i think torps and mines are definitely better for this mission as the mines and fighter on intercept will take out the shards and torps do more damage as the entity has no shields i only do the mission hoping to get valuable loot although the 100 FM each day are a bonus

kyias1 · May 2013

Cruisers and Science vessels are the perfect ships for this event.

The CE is not as much about DPS but rather team support. If you are tossing out heals left, right and sideways AND DPS'ing then you WILL place first.

I have done this event in my Galaxy-R and Regent. I have placed 1st EVERY single run. Where nearly everyone in my team only healed themselves I took the time to heal me, my team AND the other team. Your heals should be on CD the entire mission and you WILL place first.

I love this event simply because it DOES reward team play. This is especially important for me since my ships tend to be fleet support first and secondary DPS.

ghyudt · January 2015

quintaris wrote: »

I also came in first yesterday in a Gal-R. It was mostly a test to see if I could.

I was healing my team constantly. Every time I saw someone's shields start to go down I'd slip them a TT, or a TSS2, or an ES. If I saw their hull start to drop, I'd give them an A2SIF, an HE, or an ET.

Different from my usual escort play, but actually quite fun.

∆ this. I play eng cruisers exclusively, and this is why I manage first more often than not. Yes, healing teammates give an incredible amount of points, and combined with whatever range you do in addition, you're almost guaranteed first place each time. The galaxy, guardian, dreadnaught, and other eng heavy cruisers are all perfectly set up for this.

pwstolemyname · January 2015

To put the importance of healing in perspective hear is something to think about. When I have parsed CE with friends from my fleet People have taken 1st doing as little as 3k dps, whilst in teams with people doing 30k.

Healing is the overriding factor when determing score hear.

Unknown · January 2015

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jjdez · January 2015

edalgo wrote: »

I'll just add this little bit of advice...

http://youtu.be/N0nyOyrprIs

Great tip! lol

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fatman592 · January 2015

You played CC in a tank and got first. Congrats, you figured out how to place first. That's why Romulans with the Valdore console tend to place first.

noroblad · January 2015

congrats!

that said, in a legit run (ill get to that) anyone can take first... and someone will... it depends on the competition. A sci ship with heavy kinetic damage skills and torps and group heals and such is really, really hard to beat in this event. A well played top dps ship is hard to beat too, if they do not die even a beamboat scim can be hard to beat in spite of the CC's energy resists.

On top of that, anyone can win with a *number* of cheap tactics. There are special consoles and abilities that can give you a serious advantage .. healing is weighted heavy in the reward so dropping, for a dumb example, a mirror whatsit HE on your group after the AOE to heal everyone's hull can get you mega points. Dropping a rep - shield healing bubble on a couple of allies can get you mega points. And those are just a couple of the things you can do. Also certain weapons are extra effective on the thing.... people that want to can build a ship just to get first place... by using things that are pretty meh in all other content but shine for CCA. I don't know how much shooting other targets than the crystal body count, but I took first a lot in a ship that had the point defense, that thing does stupid amounts of dps to the shardlets that fly around.

angrytarg · February 2015

My Galaxy R and my Nebula get 1st places almost every time

My Mogh and Kumari most of the time aren't amongst the top 3 at all

furlong359 · February 2015

I dunno about teams heals and such, but I've placed 1st almost every time my mid geared eng was using the tact -r . I was using anti proton heavyset /duels with quatns .however my much better geared tact captain in her mvar has never placed .

Came first In Crysteline Enity with Galaxy retrofit

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