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Crystalline Entity event too short

darramouss1darramouss1 Member Posts: 1,811 Arc User
The Crystalline Entity event has been designated to run for three weeks and requires two weeks worth of playing every day in order to obtain the goodies. Maths, being what it is, provides for one week of not being able to do the event before you lose the ability to obtain the goodies.

I'm sorry, but that's not acceptable. One week?

People have lives that sometimes prevent them from playing the game. Me, I was on holiday overseas for a week and a day. I miss out by one shard. One the Season 7 Blog 43 there are numerous posts by people who are unable to get the goodies, one poor person missing out because they had ISP problems.

Cryptic, you really need to provide for more grace time during the events. By not allowing more grace time you're punishing people for having real lives. That's poor form.

(I know that there will be people that say these things are rewards for dedicated players, so in to prevent such comments let me advise that when I'm not on holidays or when I'm not away for work I'm on EVERY DAY for a minimum of two hours. I feel that I'm a committed player who has missed out due to having a life.)
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  • crownvic2doorcrownvic2door Member Posts: 301 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    I set a timer for every 20 hours so that I can run the event for three characters, even with massive computer issues (blue screen of death because MS Update of Doom killed my ram) I still managed, if you didn't play for whatever reason you can't blame the company, such is life it happens, I'm pretty sure they advertised it beforehand so the only thing you can blame is poor planning if thats not good enough then oh well:confused:

    And I still haven't replaced my ram, I'm overdue for another crash...:mad:
  • darramouss1darramouss1 Member Posts: 1,811 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    I set a timer for every 20 hours so that I can run the event for three characters, even with massive computer issues (blue screen of death because MS Update of Doom killed my ram) I still managed, if you didn't play for whatever reason you can't blame the company, such is life it happens, I'm pretty sure they advertised it beforehand so the only thing you can blame is poor planning if thats not good enough then oh well:confused:

    And I still haven't replaced my ram, I'm overdue for another crash...:mad:

    So it's my poor planning that my close friends planned to get married and invited us to travel with them for a week? No, that's real life, the thing that exists outside of the game.

    Yes, they gave us warning but they didn't allow enough time for people who have stuff going on.
  • crownvic2doorcrownvic2door Member Posts: 301 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    To some extent...You chose your friends over some game, which is something that I would do, given the circumstance, yeah it sucks... but such is life...I hope your friends live long and prosper together in there new marriage.

    However I'd probably load it up on a laptop and find some internet and play for half hour just for the events...LMAO;) I have OCD though so I might go a lil over the top...Drives my wife bonkers...Good thing she loves me or I'd be six under by now!
  • dracounguisdracounguis Member Posts: 5,358 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    After 14 days on 5 toons, it seemed long enough to me! ;)
  • abaddon653abaddon653 Member Posts: 1,144 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Yup plenty of time, just finished it with all six of my toons. Even took a couple days off.
  • darramouss1darramouss1 Member Posts: 1,811 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    It seems that those who didn't have things on in their lives thought that it was enough time. Think outside of your own existence. Try to imagine if you had something on and couldn't finish it. Then you may feel disappointed like those of us who can't complete it. for even a single toon. Of which I have 9.
  • crownvic2doorcrownvic2door Member Posts: 301 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    DDaaaaamnn 9 Characters! I only have 5! Only three are lvl 50! and soon I'll have 6 since I'll be adding a Romulan to my collection of persona's:D
  • darramouss1darramouss1 Member Posts: 1,811 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    DDaaaaamnn 9 Characters! I only have 5! Only three are lvl 50! and soon I'll have 6 since I'll be adding a Romulan to my collection of persona's:D

    6 of them are level 50. One is level 40 and the others are in their 20's. As soon as Romulus is out and can see at least 3 more!!
  • wildweasalwildweasal Member Posts: 1,053 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    It seems that those who didn't have things on in their lives thought that it was enough time. Think outside of your own existence. Try to imagine if you had something on and couldn't finish it. Then you may feel disappointed like those of us who can't complete it. for even a single toon. Of which I have 9.

    please spare me the tears the event will probably be back so you had something to do and could not finish ...get over yourself.... I guess now you want them to turn back the clock as well so you can get your free odyssey or free ambassador or free whatever (double face palm for you )
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  • neoakiraiineoakiraii Member Posts: 7,468 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    sorry but people are busy at different times, Cryptic can't go around asking everyone what week is good for them.
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  • darramouss1darramouss1 Member Posts: 1,811 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    wildweasal wrote: »
    please spare me the tears the event will probably be back so you had something to do and could not finish ...get over yourself.... I guess now you want them to turn back the clock as well so you can get your free odyssey or free ambassador or free whatever (double face palm for you )

    Hey everyone, it's Mother Theresa, caring for people other than herself!!

    neoakiraii wrote: »
    sorry but people are busy at different times, Cryptic can't go around asking everyone what week is good for them.

    I'm not asking for them to poll as to when they run something. Rather I'm asking that when they run an event they provide a minimum of two weeks where a person doesn't have to participate but still have the possibility of completing it. Many people can lose a week due to holiday, work, illness, technical difficulties, etc. If the event ran for an extra week whilst still requiring the same number of runs a lot more people could participate. This wouldn't affect those that could have done it in a shorter time, but rather allowed more people to share in the experience.

    This is an MMO, after all. It's about the most people possible participating.
  • dralthcaandralthcaan Member Posts: 27 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    It really is frustrating that they limit it to such a small time frame that does not give leniency to those of us whom do have jobs and a life. I know I will barely be able to get it done on 1 toon from the mere fact that when I work I prefer sleeping in my off time so as not to die the next day at work over getting new pixels.
    I wonder if there will be any form of lessened claim if you can not fill all 14 crystals, or like with other cryptic fails it will just go incomplete and not be able to be removed to start the next event whenever it shall be.
  • bubzy504bubzy504 Member Posts: 8 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Or they could just lessen the reward timer to 12 hrs instead of 20 hrs. The mission take 15-20 minutes in reality so it could be possible to knock it out twice a day if you work it right. Though adding a week to the mix would be the best solution so far. Having a shortened timer does nothing when your ISP is down or grandma is sick in the hospital a state away from where you live.
  • kwiat007kwiat007 Member Posts: 144 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Sorry that you missed the time window, but no matter how much time they would give us there will always will be someone who would miss it cause he/she was on rehab, in prison, in a coma, on a one year trip around the world.
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  • tachyonharmonictachyonharmonic Member Posts: 292 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Poor planning on Cryptic's part, really. The silliest bit is you have to do the 14-shard project before you can do the 1-shard project; this means that unless you get and spend 14 shards, you won't be able to use any.
  • fiberteksyfirfiberteksyfir Member Posts: 1,207 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    kwiat007 wrote: »
    Sorry that you missed the time window, but no matter how much time they would give us there will always will be someone who would miss it cause he/she was on rehab, in prison, in a coma, on a one year trip around the world.

    This is true, but in defense of the OP - the Winter event lasted well over the required time needed to complete it - by almost two weeks at least iirc. I did complete both [just finished CE a day ago], but it did seem constricted in the realm of flexibility. I imagine however, that Cryptic wanted to gate this one for a reason [50,000 bones + 1000 FMs is a lotta stuff]
  • khayuungkhayuung Member Posts: 1,876 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    Add the 100 mark version regardless once the event is over for those stuck with shards. That way, they at least can still get some kind of consolation prize.


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  • blitzy4blitzy4 Member Posts: 839 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    I'm gonna miss it on one character by one day.
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  • dkratascodkratasco Member Posts: 585 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    [Irony mode on]
    Yeah you're right how could they gave us only additional 50% time to get all shards. Shame on you Cryptic, event should be for 60 days and all we need to get reward should be log in game for more then 5 minutes even without playing CE.
    [Irony mode off]

    Sorry man it's game, and game is part of life, and as in life not everyone must have or have opportunity to have everything.
  • dracounguisdracounguis Member Posts: 5,358 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    This is Cryptic. They WILL have it happen again so you can get the rest of your shards at some point. And my guess would be that those of us that finished it will not be able to finish it again (hence the 1 shard 'projects'). So consider your big payout delayed not missed.
  • stofskstofsk Member Posts: 1,744 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    After 14 days on 5 toons, it seemed long enough to me! ;)

    This. Good grief I'm so over this event. I do feel the OP's pain though, I was lucky in that I started with two weeks left to go. Having another week grace period would be a good move from Cryptic.
  • aelfwin1aelfwin1 Member Posts: 2,896 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    After 14 days on 5 toons, it seemed long enough to me! ;)

    Yeah ... only 9 toons here , but it was certainly 'special' .

    But I do see the OP's point and I too would have liked to see this event go on for 4 weeks .
    The grind is enough , but when you create such an artificial pressure to do it , it becomes the Not Fun you are trying to avoid .
  • darramouss1darramouss1 Member Posts: 1,811 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    aelfwin1 wrote: »
    Yeah ... only 9 toons here , but it was certainly 'special' .

    But I do see the OP's point and I too would have liked to see this event go on for 4 weeks .
    The grind is enough , but when you create such an artificial pressure to do it , it becomes the Not Fun you are trying to avoid .

    You're right. The pressure is what I don't like. Grind is OK when you don't have to do it by x number of days.
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  • darramouss1darramouss1 Member Posts: 1,811 Arc User
    edited April 2013
    skollulfr wrote: »
    its a free shot at 40K dil and a load of fleet marks.
    beyond that you are getting 400+ dil and 50k+ creds worth of loot per run.

    it was a nice bonus for those that could get it, unfortunate for those too casual to put in the 15 minutes a day(literally just that) to do it.

    you expect them to put it to 12 weeks for teh saterday players? what about 20 weeks for the saturday players that only found out about it 8 weeks in?

    I'm not sure if you got the gist of the original post. It's not about people who won't put the effort in, it's about circumstances that put you in a position where you can't play.

    There are many things that can quite easily take a week of your life up. I was on holiday. For a week. Sometimes my wife needs to travel for work to far-flung places like Nigeria, Norway or rural Russia. In case like that her work books her at those locations for a week or two at a time every 6 months rather then send her for a shorter time more often as it's more cost effective. One person in the Dev Blog wrote their ISP went down.

    Having more time isn't to accommodate people who couldn't be bothered, it's to accommodate the people who have big things in their life. Sure, you can never please everyone, but so many things can take a week of your life and rob you of the opportunity to participate in activities like this one.
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  • thedodgehopperthedodgehopper Member Posts: 119 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    Actually it is not as simple as this. (Yes I'm bringing this thread back to life).

    Even if you are intense about the game you run into some problems with things like Cooldowns. I believe its 24 hours between shards. 24 Hours can make thing a bit screwy with timing, particularly if you have a squad of characters you're rolling through. Nothing 'casual' about that at all. Secondly, even with the one character the cooldown messes up your window of activity, having a tendency to push your time slot forward.
    If it were based on the actual date of accomplishment, in other words, only one shard allowed per date, that would make it a little bit easier to perform and less demanding. Another problem with this process, is that unless you tally the time you went for that shard, you now have to keep track of it yourself to know when you can earn another shard. Many other games actually put a buff on you telling you how much time you have on a cooldown or some other means of knowing.

    All three of these concerns add to the annoying nature of the event.

    As a general rule, I hate how Events are handled in MMOS. To me its a philosophy that looks at us as Gamblers, and its an attempt to get us to pull the one armed bandit again and again. Really I'm not sure what makes MMO designers think we want excessive repetitiveness, and how that will draw us to their game. I realize it is good for creating a sense of 'investment' into the game but it also has the chance of burning players out. In all I would bet both happen and I would guess they cancel one another out.

    I'm not impressed if you can get the event complete in 14 days or 21, I just don't see what is wrong with the notion of expanding events into larger segments of time, so that players can enjoy them at a leisurely pace. If I had my way though, the mission would take 14 days to complete, and you could collect all 14 shards in one setting or 12 or 3 or 14. Of course the real purpose of these kinds of events is to pull you into the game as I've stated above, and create a sense of investment in the game, and perhaps even tempt you into spening money on the game. Beyond that, I find it all a bit annoying, especially when alts are factored into the mix (and I have a lot of them). This game of course has been very alt-Unfriendly since it went f2p.
  • stoutesstoutes Member Posts: 4,219 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    Actually it is not as simple as this. (Yes I'm bringing this thread back to life).

    Sorry, TL;DR..

    Anyhow, you do know about the usual 30-days forum rule?... It's kind of like every day one or two necroes are brought up, doubt you've missed that? :rolleyes:
    maxvitor wrote: »
    Nerf is OP, plz nerf
    That's quite the paradox, how could you nerf nerf when the nerf is nerfed. But how would the nerf be nerfed when the nerf is nerfed? This allows the nerf not to be nerfed since the nerf is nerfed? But if the nerf isn't nerfed, it could still nerf nerfs. But as soon as the nerf is nerfed, the nerf power is lost. So paradoxally it the nerf nerf lost its nerf, while it's still nerfed, which cannot be because the nerf was unable to nerf.

    I call it, the Stoutes paradox.
  • starmanjstarmanj Member Posts: 719 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    Actually it is not as simple as this. (Yes I'm bringing this thread back to life).

    Even if you are intense about the game you run into some problems with things like Cooldowns. I believe its 24 hours between shards. 24 Hours can make thing a bit screwy with timing, particularly if you have a squad of characters you're rolling through. Nothing 'casual' about that at all. Secondly, even with the one character the cooldown messes up your window of activity, having a tendency to push your time slot forward.
    If it were based on the actual date of accomplishment, in other words, only one shard allowed per date, that would make it a little bit easier to perform and less demanding. Another problem with this process, is that unless you tally the time you went for that shard, you now have to keep track of it yourself to know when you can earn another shard. Many other games actually put a buff on you telling you how much time you have on a cooldown or some other means of knowing.

    All three of these concerns add to the annoying nature of the event.

    As a general rule, I hate how Events are handled in MMOS. To me its a philosophy that looks at us as Gamblers, and its an attempt to get us to pull the one armed bandit again and again. Really I'm not sure what makes MMO designers think we want excessive repetitiveness, and how that will draw us to their game. I realize it is good for creating a sense of 'investment' into the game but it also has the chance of burning players out. In all I would bet both happen and I would guess they cancel one another out.

    I'm not impressed if you can get the event complete in 14 days or 21, I just don't see what is wrong with the notion of expanding events into larger segments of time, so that players can enjoy them at a leisurely pace. If I had my way though, the mission would take 14 days to complete, and you could collect all 14 shards in one setting or 12 or 3 or 14. Of course the real purpose of these kinds of events is to pull you into the game as I've stated above, and create a sense of investment in the game, and perhaps even tempt you into spening money on the game. Beyond that, I find it all a bit annoying, especially when alts are factored into the mix (and I have a lot of them). This game of course has been very alt-Unfriendly since it went f2p.

    I really have to Laugh at this last part. The game was originally design to have 2 Characters, then LOR came out giving to 2 more, anymore characters you had to buy more Slots with Zen.
    I was your choice to create more Accounts to have more alts, just be glad the game aloud you to do this. So as far as alt-Unfriendly since it went F2P you would be paying for each account you opened up if it wasn't F2P.
  • sophus84atsophus84at Member Posts: 404 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    also now with the mirror spamming its not guaranteed that you actually make it to the end every time.... and get the shard

    so if they fix this the should atleast give those days some people lost now.

    one in my fleet has not a single shard just because he couldnt make it till the end until now.
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