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lykum
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anyone here played World of Tanks? if not it's a f2p game very much similar in nature. well not too long ago World of tanks completely redesigned their game engine and I was wondering if maybe the STO crew would consider the same?
for instance when i'm trying to gain altitude I have to kind of corkscrew up. games like Starfleet and Klingon academies never had this problem for space was genuinely 3d.
please give a thought cryptic!! all you have to do is add top and bottom shields!!!
for instance when i'm trying to gain altitude I have to kind of corkscrew up. games like Starfleet and Klingon academies never had this problem for space was genuinely 3d.
please give a thought cryptic!! all you have to do is add top and bottom shields!!!
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Already long since dismissed. STO is intended to be tall ships in space.
Also, while I do agree this game needs a new engine from the ground up, that's never going to happen. There's too much invested in Star Champs Online to ever rewrite the whole thing to actually function like a space game instead of a super hero game with a Star Trek veneer.
3d engine huh? it will never happen, i remember someone stating back in 2011 that it will require the entire game engine to be redesigned to fix the issue. which means no new content for a very long time. its not feasible.
Been around since Dec 2010 on STO and bought LTS in Apr 2013 for STO.
Sad to see you clinging to such a weak excuse.
Been around since Dec 2010 on STO and bought LTS in Apr 2013 for STO.
I can name a dozen different instances instantly off the top off my head where the top and bottom shields were either discussed or shot at.
World of Tanks redesigned their engine and it totally made a whole ner game out of it.
Star Trek Online has that potential.
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it wasnt just defiant with nog that pulled off such a move either, go back 200 years to the edge of the xindi expanse to a certain human built ship out witting klingons doing an L9 move.
barrel rolls with voyager, voyager shuttle craft with chakotay on board out witting a kazon shuttle pilot kar.
Been around since Dec 2010 on STO and bought LTS in Apr 2013 for STO.
There was the scene at the end of The Wrath of Khan where the Enterprise changed its "altitude" by purely vertical movement to gain a positional advantage on Khan and the Reliant. There isn't a reason why this couldn't be integrated to some extent.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPQfwmfRq2s
World of Tanks is not nearly the cash cow that this game is. They're very unlikely to make back all the money they would spend by revamping the entire engine to better suit Trek and outer space, considering all the interruptions and nonsense that would go with it dampening their sales.
World of Tanks is also not owned by PWE, who is pulling the strings of this game.
There absolutely is:
Cryptic doesn't want to.
Whoever said that was either talking out of his aft thruster array or just pulling your leg.
It's a 3-d engine so it actually supports 3-d movement.
Keep in mind we use the same engine in space and in the ground and on the ground you just jump up vertically so it's obviously possible.
Also it's the same engine use in Champions...where characters can fly and make midair backflips.
So...yeah the engine can do it without any problems.
I think it's safe to assume that it's a limitation of the engine. No one could be that stupid to think "tall ships" was a good excuse.
i played WoT for a while, hell even played the WoWP CB not long ago, fun shooting down more talented players in far more maneuverable fighters with a slow cumbersome bomber and playing evasive maneuvers like you wouldnt believe in such a slow thing (not kidding, i can last the disance of several minutes under sustained fire with evasive moves). if that sort thing was added to this game, it would add a whole new element to pvp for sure, it would increase the AI abilities a lot more as well when doing PVE.
Been around since Dec 2010 on STO and bought LTS in Apr 2013 for STO.
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But space there was a TRIBBLE-up. It happened way too often that ships were completely mis-aligned. Sure, that's realistic. But it's not Star Trek.
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A significant MAJORITY of the players would NOT be able to handle the space combat in such a situation leading to them leaving STO. Then the only people left playing STO when it gets shutdown would be just the hardcore simulation fans.
Something else to think about for all you hardcore simulation experts demanding complete 3-axis movement in STO - have you ever flown your ship into the "ceiling" or "floor" in sector space? What about in individual instances? Have you ever watched the NPC ships as they fly around?
Do you really and completely understand what all would need to be involved in changing STO in order accommodate complete 3-axis movement?
CRYPTIC ... I WISH YOU COULD IMPLEMENT WHAT THIS GUY JUST ASKED FOR. I really do wish ...
I hope STO get's better ...
and yes it does feel like the game engine is actually capable of much more. this game could change our entire lives right now if we complain enough! i keep thinking the next game but damnit no that was like 3 games ago we have to find a way to let the devs know about this they probably never reviewed old star trek games when designing STO they really should have putting so much on the line they way they have
if a dev sees this too fix the dang sector space map! it looks like a 3 year olds version of a lego car! i mean it doesn't even look like it makes sense...
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The Enterprise used it's thrusters to maneuver like that. Could STO do it? Probably. But why? How often are you going to use thruster moves? The AI in STO isn't exactly mensa, and if you decide to hide in a cloud/nebula they don't usually fly close enough for you to sneak attack them. And if you're PVPing, it's not like the your opponents won't see you hiding. Not unless STO decides to actually blind you and your opponents like the Enterprise and Reliant were blind. Plus it would probably be another button to push like "ramming speed".
They should have just added an auto align button, which when pressed would align the ship right way up and level with the games horizon. But they didn't. Hell, I have Galaxy on Fire 2 on my I phone and it has that function.
I think back to other Star Trek games like: Star Trek 25th Anniversary, Star Trek Judgement Rights, Starfleet Academy, Klingon Academy and Bridge Commander, and I can't help but realize that they all had full 3D movement in Space and they were mostly considered to be successful, back in the day. STO... not so much.
cause sometimes its party time!
cause sometimes its party time!
As far as more Z-axis movement, maybe they could add in a universal ability that simply zeros out the plane for the directionally challenged captains who can't adapt fast enough, or at all? Even if they don't I'm all for the pitch on the Z.
there would be plenty of potential in a 3d engine, but it would undoubtedly take resources and time away from other projects though. since i have played 3d engine games like proposed, eve online(embarassed to say since its done by auto pilot mostly), black prophecy, freelancer, freespace 1 & 2. so i know my way around these types.
Been around since Dec 2010 on STO and bought LTS in Apr 2013 for STO.
Cryptic even increased the upward and downward angles of ship flight a couple of years ago, but said that was as far as they wished to take it due to how they envisioned most ship flight in Star Trek.